Ready for F1 in Singapore?
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dun think so!!Originally posted by Blockhead:Singapore set for 2008 night race - report
Posted 03 March 2007 at 14:13 GMT
Hot on the heels of South Africa's re-emergence on the Formula One radar, it is being reported that Singapore is set to join the annual calendar as early as 2008.
The newspaper Today quoted a 'source' who confirmed that the project, with government support, could be given the green light next week for an April or August date.
F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone is expected to travel to the island city-state, located in south east Asia, later this month.
"I can confirm that Singapore is on the calendar next year and it could either be the third race of the season, or towards the end of the season in August," the anonymous source said, explaining that he is bound by non-disclosure rules.
'Today' claims that the Singapore grand prix will be F1's first ever night race, on a city circuit.
http://www.homeofsport.com/f1/news/item.aspx?id=18346
our precious land can be used for other things!! such as industrial ground or commercial !! hahaha -
It's on a temporary street circuit.Originally posted by FlowerGrass:dun think so!!
our precious land can be used for other things!! such as industrial ground or commercial !! hahaha
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logistics might be a bit of a hassle but if we can go all the way for the IMF i dont think F1 would be a prob...
4 million smile peeps.
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No need, we just need lots of flags, airhorns, caps, T-shirts and face paint.Originally posted by Pitot:logistics might be a bit of a hassle but if we can go all the way for the IMF i dont think F1 would be a prob...
4 million smile peeps. 
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they were not during the ASEAN Football championships.Originally posted by Kuali Baba:No need, we just need lots of flags, airhorns, caps, T-shirts and face paint.
*Hopes none of them will be banned*
pipipipipi pipipipi butoh!
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Let's not too excited for now, eh? Looks like its not a done deal yet... Today's "source" is a bit too quick off the mark then?
No deal yet on Singapore race, says Ecclestone
By Alan Baldwin
LONDON, March 5 (Reuters) - Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone denied on Monday that Singaporean property tycoon Ong Beng Seng had secured the rights to host a grand prix in the island state.
"We haven't entered into any agreement with anyone at the moment," the Briton told Reuters.
Ecclestone, 76, said he had been talking to interested parties in Singapore for three years but rejected media reports in the Far East suggesting that Ong's Hotel Properties had secured the rights.
"I don't know anything about it," he said.
Ecclestone, who would not say who he was talking to in Singapore, added that he was keen on a night-time race but no announcement was imminent.
"I think it would be good, I was the one who suggested night races to them (the Singaporeans), and not only them but other countries in other parts of Asia," added the commercial rights holder.
Shares in Hotel Properties rose as much as 15.8 percent on Friday on local market talk about the deal.
Formula One has 17 races this season but Abu Dhabi is due to host a race, the second in the Middle East, from 2009 on a street circuit using part of the harbourside. South Korea has also been scheduled for 2010.
NIGHT RACES
Ecclestone has talked before about night races in the Far East, which would be far more attractive to the European television companies.
The Malaysian Grand Prix, on the same time as neighbouring Singapore, is broadcast live at a time when many European viewers are still in bed.
"I would like to do one or two night races. It could be good in Japan or China," the Briton told reporters in Abu Dhabi last month.
Circuit designer Hermann Tilke said recently that advances in technology had made the concept of night races, a novelty for Formula One, a realistic proposition.
"The basic problem is lighting," he told the Autosport Web site (www.autosport.com) last month. "You need a certain amount of brightness in order to allow the cameras to show the cars properly and not as a blurred streak.
"But then again, both in lighting systems and in camera technology, we have seen tremendous developments so I cannot imagine that those would be real problems."
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I'm sure they will jump at that chance.Originally posted by Kuali Baba:I hope some of the organisers and higher-ups have the sense to visit Monaco in May to see how it's done. They may even come out with some excuse to go to Adelaide as well. -
That was the least of my concerns.Originally posted by Blockhead:Let's not too excited for now, eh? Looks like its not a done deal yet... Today's "source" is a bit too quick off the mark then? -
Bernie Ecclestone was here yesterday for discussions, according to ITV-F1.com. Stay tuned...
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Originally posted by JLennon:
it is going to be a nite race....
[b]This is a cool idea (both literally and figuratively speaking). Watching a live race under the noon sun is certainly a turn-off. b]
personally, i dun think it will happen. sg gahmen is too calculative. for such things, an equal amt of guts, passion and belief is needed as much as economic gains and the tangible returns. i am afraid sgpreans are too straight jck to see thru the need for an F1. Of cos unless LHL say `i want, ...' then story ends.
too expensive and in SG, it is not likely possible to cordon off roads and prevent free loaders to watch for free. unless the gahmen do not charge on certain stretch of the roads. in Aus, Albert park can relatively be easy to cordon off since is off city to a certain extent. Monaco is the land of the super rich, they pretty much do anything /out nconvenincng the man in the strett. In sg, tt's tough... -
Originally posted by Short Ninja:U tink got night Safari means night F1 oso can izzit?
You read the 1st post or not? Dun anyhow shoot.Originally posted by Blockhead:Singapore set for 2008 night race - report
Posted 03 March 2007 at 14:13 GMT
'Today' claims that the Singapore grand prix will be F1's first ever night race, on a city circuit.
http://www.homeofsport.com/f1/news/item.aspx?id=18346 -
actually u compare it with an IR .. i personally think tat F1 has greater returns ... n it can bring the country to the world in an instant ..... no doubt the F1 is only held like once in a yr while the IR is a long term kind of thing ... yes IR can boom tourism so can F1 ...... n ppl from all around the world can wat this tiny little country in SEA can produce ..... n oso singaporean businesses can oso use this opportunity to promote their business my sponsoring a F1 eventOriginally posted by weiqimun:personally, i dun think it will happen. sg gahmen is too calculative. for such things, an equal amt of guts, passion and belief is needed as much as economic gains and the tangible returns. i am afraid sgpreans are too straight jck to see thru the need for an F1. Of cos unless LHL say `i want, ...' then story ends.
too expensive and in SG, it is not likely possible to cordon off roads and prevent free loaders to watch for free. unless the gahmen do not charge on certain stretch of the roads. in Aus, Albert park can relatively be easy to cordon off since is off city to a certain extent. Monaco is the land of the super rich, they pretty much do anything /out nconvenincng the man in the strett. In sg, tt's tough... -
i think no local sponsor can `afford' F1 sponsorship here in SG. too ex.Originally posted by hao_hao:actually u compare it with an IR .. i personally think tat F1 has greater returns ... n it can bring the country to the world in an instant ..... no doubt the F1 is only held like once in a yr while the IR is a long term kind of thing ... yes IR can boom tourism so can F1 ...... n ppl from all around the world can wat this tiny little country in SEA can produce ..... n oso singaporean businesses can oso use this opportunity to promote their business my sponsoring a F1 event
firstly, u shld hv a ww presence to make your sponsorship worthwhile. otherwise, very hard.
will ong beng seng put in the millions w/out return? i dun think so. he's not going to put monein so he can generate economic returns to the others, like hotel, food ec. he's not a charity. the gahmen must fill in the shoes. he's a businessman afterall. unless the gahmen pour in $ for this, of which you will see a topic in the politics forums about how the $ can be better utilized to help the underprivileged, it is gonna be tough. -
You can't stop people from tuning in to the race on TV if they want to.Originally posted by weiqimun:too expensive and in SG, it is not likely possible to cordon off roads and prevent free loaders to watch for free. unless the gahmen do not charge on certain stretch of the roads. in Aus, Albert park can relatively be easy to cordon off since is off city to a certain extent. Monaco is the land of the super rich, they pretty much do anything /out nconvenincng the man in the strett. In sg, tt's tough... -
Obviously you are not aware the Singapore will only get the chance to host the race ONCE a year. So how do you expect it to generate greater returns than IRs that is open 27/7/365?Originally posted by hao_hao:actually u compare it with an IR .. i personally think tat F1 has greater returns ... n it can bring the country to the world in an instant ..... no doubt the F1 is only held like once in a yr while the IR is a long term kind of thing ... yes IR can boom tourism so can F1 ...... n ppl from all around the world can wat this tiny little country in SEA can produce ..... n oso singaporean businesses can oso use this opportunity to promote their business my sponsoring a F1 event -
It will only make sense for OBS or AT to pick up the US$250m bill if they owns all the major hotels around the proposed race track. Unfortunately they dont own a single one. Hence the only people who can make this happen will be the Singapore government. To have the ministers talking about it in the parliment, is already a clear sign that PM Lee has already approved the budget and it is a definite go and they will make it happen, or else they will be embarrass if they fail. (AGAIN)Originally posted by weiqimun:i think no local sponsor can `afford' F1 sponsorship here in SG. too ex.
firstly, u shld hv a ww presence to make your sponsorship worthwhile. otherwise, very hard.
will ong beng seng put in the millions w/out return? i dun think so. he's not going to put monein so he can generate economic returns to the others, like hotel, food ec. he's not a charity. the gahmen must fill in the shoes. he's a businessman afterall. unless the gahmen pour in $ for this, of which you will see a topic in the politics forums about how the $ can be better utilized to help the underprivileged, it is gonna be tough.
US$250 million for 7 years will only cost Singapore government about US$35m per year, and I cant think of a better marketing strategy for singapore than this, especially if you consider the immediate spill over effect on the 2 IRs and other industries. -
Casting aside the F1 vs IR comparison, I believe that F1 hosted here will have positive spillover effects, i.e. tourism, business attraction. Like what the papers today said, it's going to open the world's window to our country. So far, I'm not sure of any huge scale event that has taken place here that has captured international attention from all walks of life. And I doubt we'll ever have a chance to host Olympics nor World Cup.
Well for the race itself, I think it's gonna be really interesting if a night race were to be held. So far, teams have had to work under the limitation of tyre wear made worse by the heat. For a night race, they have at least one load off their mind and can concentrate on making the race a more competitive one. Well one thing is that we may be deprived of the all-out engine scream like on the racing circuits as I doubt our roads are long and wide enough for a roaring stretch. -
I find the the noisiest part of the race track is actually the place where the car down shift and I believe that the stretch from Ritz Carlton down to Esplanade corner will be enough for the cars to reach 280-300km/h
Well for the race itself, I think it's gonna be really interesting if a night race were to be held. So far, teams have had to work under the limitation of tyre wear made worse by the heat. For a night race, they have at least one load off their mind and can concentrate on making the race a more competitive one. Well one thing is that we may be deprived of the all-out engine scream like on the racing circuits as I doubt our roads are long and wide enough for a roaring stretch.[/b] -
280-300... salivating...
I pray for the Merlion. Hope it doesn't hyperventilate over there. -
zz so fast..i rather Sg have somg singapore drift ~ drift dirfit drift ~ fast n furious~~Originally posted by Theatre Of Dreams:280-300... salivating...
I pray for the Merlion. Hope it doesn't hyperventilate over there. -
Drifting is overrated IMOOriginally posted by acegem84:zz so fast..i rather Sg have somg singapore drift ~ drift dirfit drift ~ fast n furious~~ -
The teams will need to make the gears shorter for this course. The engines will be at their loudest along the pit and back straights, and in short spurts between some corners when the drivers don't shift up. We won't be denied the aural spectacle...if it happens.Originally posted by Theatre Of Dreams:Well for the race itself, I think it's gonna be really interesting if a night race were to be held. So far, teams have had to work under the limitation of tyre wear made worse by the heat. For a night race, they have at least one load off their mind and can concentrate on making the race a more competitive one. Well one thing is that we may be deprived of the all-out engine scream like on the racing circuits as I doubt our roads are long and wide enough for a roaring stretch.
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Did you just say that OBS does not own any hotels in Singapore? Are you kidding me? Whats the name of the company which he is the controlling shareholder?Originally posted by Gazelle:It will only make sense for OBS or AT to pick up the US$250m bill if they owns all the major hotels around the proposed race track. Unfortunately they dont own a single one. -
It will only make sense for OBS or AT to pick up the US$250m bill if they owns all the major hotels around the proposed race track. Unfortunately they dont own a single one.Originally posted by yousure??:Did you just say that OBS does not own any hotels in Singapore? Are you kidding me? Whats the name of the company which he is the controlling shareholder?
I think HPL only owns 2 hotel in singapore, The Hilton and Four Seasons, how do you expect to justify a USD35million bill for that one weekend? -
I apologise that I missed out on the underlined section. However, the hilton and FS's have one of highest ADRs in Singapore. You can be pretty sure that the OccRates for luxury hotels will benefit whether over looking the track or not if the F1 comes to Singapore.Originally posted by Gazelle:I think HPL only owns 2 hotel in singapore, The Hilton and Four Seasons, how do you expect to justify a USD35million bill for that one weekend?