Dangerous Driving

• new_in_singapore

  6 Jul 07, 22:54

  hi there,
  
  I recently met an minor acciedent where nobody was hurt but I (and the pedestrian who was involved) launched the police report. Initially I got the letter from TP that the reports are inconclusive but later I got the letter saying that I probably committed an offence of dangerous driving. It was not my fault and nobody was hurt, any body faced similar situation? what to do to protect my interest
  
  thanks for help
  
  - A
  
• CDL

  6 Jul 07, 23:26

  if it wasn't your fault then appeal to the letter
• TheDream

  7 Jul 07, 16:08

  Share your story lor...
• new_in_singapore

  11 Jul 07, 21:37

  Well, I was driving and stopped at red light and when signal turned green then I was moving slowly and I heard a sound so checked and realized a girl bumped into my car(near rear left tyre), probably she was not expecting me to be so slow. However crowd gave support to this embrassed girl who was unhurt and started shouting at me (there was no body at the road at the time she hit but there was a nearby foodcourt and uncle/auntie came).
  Anyway, looks like in the report she said that I hit her at the front and I was speeding at red light. Unfortunately I have no witness to prove my innocence and looks like trafic poiice would give me 3000$ fine and 24 points, my lincence would be revoked, thanks to the crowd who gathered for little fun. There was no injury to her and she was smiling there too.
  
  Anybody has gone through same situation? any idea what could be done.
  
  Thanks for the help
• so_nice

  11 Jul 07, 22:03

  siao. its a straight forward thing. she rear end u she at fault. she cannot stop in time due to speed too fast and poor judgement. she failed to slow down when approaching traffic junction. its such a straight forward case and why u got TP letter? maybe u would like to tell the whole story.
• Thomas300

  15 Jul 07, 00:03

  Marcham wear blue/white uniform no brain de? If speeding and bang her from the front she would be in hospital. Hate those kaypohs also.
• rathcycle

  15 Jul 07, 00:04

  Originally posted by new_in_singapore:

  Well, I was driving and stopped at red light and when signal turned green then I was moving slowly and I heard a sound so checked and realized a girl bumped into my car(near rear left tyre), probably she was not expecting me to be so slow. However crowd gave support to this embrassed girl who was unhurt and started shouting at me (there was no body at the road at the time she hit but there was a nearby foodcourt and uncle/auntie came).
  Anyway, looks like in the report she said that I hit her at the front and I was speeding at red light. Unfortunately I have no witness to prove my innocence and looks like trafic poiice would give me 3000$ fine and 24 points, my lincence would be revoked, thanks to the crowd who gathered for little fun. There was no injury to her and she was smiling there too.
  
  Anybody has gone through same situation? any idea what could be done.
  
  Thanks for the help

  sue them.
  
• Thomas300

  15 Jul 07, 00:05

  Should put shotgun inside the car. If people gather around u then take it out and shoot them.
• mancha

  15 Jul 07, 00:17

  When you are called up tell them what you are telling us.
  When they grill the girl, the truth will come out.
  
  You know how to use the terms aunty/uncle very well. Are you a Singaporean new to Singapore?
• Ah-BarD

  16 Jul 07, 16:42

  rear end as in she also drive car and rear end ur car???if like dat she also speeding mah..dats why cant stop in time............the only reason dat she rear end u is that cos she was speeding and cant slow down in time as she assume u will pick up fast.....
  
  its a safety aspect to slow down n check at any junction/intersection even if u have the right of way...cos there will always some 'kudunathan' doing stunt whether motorists or pedestrians.
• hisoka

  16 Jul 07, 16:46

  Originally posted by new_in_singapore:

  Well, I was driving and stopped at red light and when signal turned green then I was moving slowly and I heard a sound so checked and realized a girl bumped into my car(near rear left tyre), probably she was not expecting me to be so slow. However crowd gave support to this embrassed girl who was unhurt and started shouting at me (there was no body at the road at the time she hit but there was a nearby foodcourt and uncle/auntie came).
  Anyway, looks like in the report she said that I hit her at the front and I was speeding at red light. Unfortunately I have no witness to prove my innocence and looks like trafic poiice would give me 3000$ fine and 24 points, my lincence would be revoked, thanks to the crowd who gathered for little fun. There was no injury to her and she was smiling there too.
  
  Anybody has gone through same situation? any idea what could be done.
  
  Thanks for the help

  pedestrian or car knock into your car?
  
  write in to tp and give them your version. ask on what grounds they giving you the offence.
• new_in_singapore

  25 Jul 07, 00:07

  hi guys, thanks for the notes.
  
  Actually she was pedestrian and she was crossing the road (she expected me to be fast and I was slow once light turned green and looks she was not looking at my car and that's why she bumped into my car).
  
  Unfortunately recently I got another letter from TP that I am charged with dangerous driving and gtg to court next month. I am not sure it's just bad luck?Can I fight back? Unfortunately I don't have any witness so can't do much as per lawyer ! Anybody would be recommend me what could be done?
  
  Regarding me being new in Singapore, yes I am little more than a year old here but driving from last two months only.
  
  thanks for your support and thoughs on how do I proceed
• drumstick

  25 Jul 07, 17:19

  Do not plead guilty. Maintain your version of your story.
  If she says, you are speeding and hit her headfront, according to physical theory, there should be a dent or markings in front of your car even if you are travelling at 50km/h and hit an object. Some more the object now is human, its so big.
  
  Keep on emphasing that she hit your left rear. Die die also say she hit your car left rear. You need to sound firm and very very confident when going for the interview with the police. Sometimes try reasoning.
  
  Like e.g " if i am speeding and hit her head front, she would have fly forward and not at my rear." Normal road is 50 - 60km/h, if I am speeding, it shows i will be travelling at more than 70km/h. If I am travelling at more than that speed, she should be laying in the hospital now and not standing like nothing happen and saying so much nonsense. "
  
  Push all blames to her and request for a review in the investigation process.
  
  Even if she is hit by your car, the proper procedure is that she would need to go for medical checkup and come out with the physical injury report done by the doctor. If the report says nothing wrong, use that as additional evidence that she is telling lies.
  
  According to what you say on the scenerio, it does not justify to 24 demerit points and $3000 fine. Even if you are guilty, on the average for such cases on first time offender is normaly 6 - 12 points or fine $1000 or both.
  
  My fren was in a similar situation like yours before, but he won the case with some "inside" help. The police grill the pedestrain for the truth untill he cannot take it and drop the case.
• Garage R

  26 Jul 07, 19:58

  Originally posted by Thomas300:

  Should put shotgun inside the car. If people gather around u then take it out and shoot them.

  u think GTA?
• rathcycle

  26 Jul 07, 20:01

  Originally posted by Garage R:

  u think GTA?

  GTA inside no shotgun... only got machin guns, rockets, pistols ....
  and GTA you have all the cars de lor..
• mujiland

  13 Aug 07, 22:15

  i once walked into a car because its too slow, n i banged into the car... and i just carry on my journey and the car moves on as normal. that was like 15 years ago... i wonder what's becoming of people now. walk into a car n still complain
  
  but one thing i dun understand, if the light is in your favor, then why is she crossing? on the other hand, if there's a green man, why r u turning without letting the girl cross first? pardon me, i just am confused
• winstonlee93

  18 Aug 07, 02:36

  so how was the court case?
• coolmax88

  18 Aug 07, 11:57

  Always make a report whenever you met with an accident, be it both parties agree not to claim each other. Go to IDAC or police station asap aft the incident happen.
  Tis is to protect yourself, if the fellow makes a report against you, at least there is a record that you already make a report of wat have actually happen.
  
  In case, the fellow can tell you everytin is fine on the spot, then lets forget everytin... Beware, next tin, you knw, letter frm TP or the other party insurance company going to claim damages against you.
  
  
• kerts

  20 Aug 07, 04:21

  wahhahaa... wat a joke!
  
  new in sg, u sign up jus to start this thread???
  n how can a person bump into ur car?? lolz...
  
  1st of all no pedestrain would be behind u when u stopping at traffic light, unless e person gila~~
  
  2nd when u start to move off, she faster den ur car n bump into u? hahaa...
  
  u think TP so bo liao issit? come up wif something betta ya, next!
• wxboi

  25 Aug 07, 10:26

  be persistant and keep arguing that it was her fault
• token141

  25 Aug 07, 10:38

  In this a case of the driver turning left at a traffic junction and before waiting for pedestrains to finish crossing, start to move off. In this case, it is possible that he will hit someone at the car rear (left) and yes, this is a case of dangerous driving... I've seen many impatient drivers not waiting for pedestrains to finish crossing and just zoom right in front of them..
  
  Just guessing though because if it is just going straight, the girl won't have knock into a car