Is the R-35 a suitable car for a family of 5? Cause my mum just gave birth to a baby sis.. so the Cefiro is already v small.

My father is looking around for a fast yet can hold 5+ ppl car, but doesnt wish to look at MPVs as the engines suck alot of petrol.He prefers Japanese cars .

He is more of a heavy footer and demands quite alot from the car torque...
so i dont know.. cause i see the R-35 has three back seats if i noticed correctly.

We just got the Cefiro barely two years ago(SGG plate) and dunno if the car value has dropped.

Btw, i did not know why did he rev the engine to about 5,000 once and then releasing it .He says its for regular servicing and to make sure the engine can tahan high revs.

Cefiro is small? Oh ok. In my impression, the Cefiro is a very big car.

Isn't the R-35 a 2-door coupe? It can't be bigger than the Cefiro.

I don't understand your post. If I'm not wrong, Nissan R35 is the GT-R? So, why would ur dad need a Coupe with so little space for 5 people. And i doubt it has 5 seats also. And the GTR sucks much more petrol than a regular MPV.

So if the R35 you are refering about is the Nissan GT-R, I don't see the reason for asking about it in the first place as it totally does not fit your dad's requirements.

The GT-R has alot less space than a cefiro. I don't see how a cefiro can be compared with a GT-R in terms of space. They are worlds apart. I suggest that your father get a MPV. He's so wrong about bad fuel consumption for MPVs. A Honda stream has good FC. GT-R is a sports car and history shows that sport cars generally do no have good fuel concumption.

My suggestion, get a MPV. But if your dad insist of not getting one. Then buy the new limo on the roads recently - The strecthed Chrysler 300c. Or best, stay with the current cefiro. It can fit your mum and dad at the front. The rest behind.

The R-35 is the latest production super-car unveiled in 2007.It replaces the Skyline R34 as its marque.


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Originally posted by Ferrari_RoXz:

I don't understand your post. If I'm not wrong, Nissan R35 is the GT-R? So, why would ur dad need a Coupe with so little space for 5 people. And i doubt it has 5 seats also. And the GTR sucks much more petrol than a regular MPV.

So if the R35 you are refering about is the Nissan GT-R, I don't see the reason for asking about it in the first place as it totally does not fit your dad's requirements

hmm. My father is quite more of a sports car enthustiastist.

Yep it has five seats, there are three seats behind.I had it confirmed by a fansite.

The R-35 has not confirmed fuel economy.. wait for more official releases first.

Just asking around for my father

Supercars are designed for 2.

How can a 2-door coupe be suitable for a family of 5? Especially when your benchmark is a Cefiro!

Unless you want to squeeze...

With a twin turbo 3.8l V6, don't expect toyota vios kind of FC.

Anyway, if you want more space get the Presage. More than enough space one.

Originally posted by Shanghai_Grand:

Is the R-35 a suitable car for a family of 5? Cause my mum just gave birth to a baby sis.. so the Cefiro is already v small.

My father is looking around for a fast yet can hold 5+ ppl car, but doesnt wish to look at MPVs as the engines suck alot of petrol.He prefers Japanese cars .

He is more of a heavy footer and demands quite alot from the car torque...
so i dont know.. cause i see the R-35 has three back seats if i noticed correctly.

We just got the Cefiro barely two years ago(SGG plate) and dunno if the car value has dropped.

Btw, i did not know why did he rev the engine to about 5,000 once and then releasing it .He says its for regular servicing and to make sure the engine can tahan high revs.

a cefiro is quite a big sized sedan and also has 3 seats at the back...

and how can an r 35 be more fuel efficient than like say a toyota wish....

are u sure u intepreted ur father correctly...

cos ur post doesnt make any sense at all...

Originally posted by Shanghai_Grand:

hmm. My father is quite more of a sports car enthustiastist.

Yep it has five seats, there are three seats behind.I had it confirmed by a fansite.

The R-35 has not confirmed fuel economy.. wait for more official releases first.

Just asking around for my father

I understand if he's buying a 2nd car for his personal use. But replacing a Cefiro for GT-R due to shortage of space is very, very strange. A GT-R is definately much smaller than a Cefiro.

Originally posted by Shanghai_Grand:

My father is looking around for a fast yet can hold 5+ ppl car, but doesnt wish to look at MPVs as the engines suck alot of petrol.He prefers Japanese cars .

So what's your concern? MPVs suck a lot of petrol, so GT-R don't? I'm sure the GT-R will have much worse consumption than MPVs such as Wish, Stream, etc.

You want a fast car that can hold 5+ people? Get the Estima or Odyssey, if you don't want the smaller MPVs.

And fyi all the MPVs mentioned are JAPANESE, which incidentally, is what you father preferred.

Guys.

i understand you are asking why he chose the GT-R as a potential candidate over the Cefiro

Well to be honest, he did say he wanted a sports coupe which was cheap , fast and could hold 5+ people, never mind about fuel economy.

Potential candidates included the Porsche GT3 RS(Too expensive), Nissan Fairlady350z,Honda Accord,Lexus Is250, Mitsubishi Evo X.. Subaru Impreza Wrx (2007).

Thats what we discussed over a few nights with him, my mum and my bro.

If TS has the budget - he can go for German "family sports cars" such as BMW M5 or Mercedes E63 AMG

What im implying exactly is that he does not like MPVs such as the Presage, Odyssey or whatever. Dont pressure me, thats his thinking.

The car is actually meant as a family car, so he wants the familly's take on the list of candidates.

1)Subaru Legacy
2)Subaru Wrx Sti
3)Mitsubishi Evo X
4)Lexus IS250
5)Honda Accord
6)Nissan FairladyZ

which would you highly rate as a suitable car?

Originally posted by ceecookie:

If TS has the budget - he can go for German "family sports cars" such as BMW M5 or Mercedes E63 AMG

Yep, but im not the one buying though. Its my father.

But he prefers Jap cars for their reliability or whatever.

Originally posted by Shanghai_Grand:

Yep, but im not the one buying though. Its my father.

But he prefers Jap cars for their reliability or whatever.

Ok.Too each his own.

So,from your list - i'll take the Mitsubishi Evolution X.Newest Jap sport cars and im sure your dad dont want to have a "common sport car" should you take the WRX STi

PSont expect comfort when sitting in the Recaro seats,they aint soft...and comfortable.

I am prepared la. Even if it is hard, it also means that it is stable in fast overtaking or hard braking, which i would soon be expecting when my father takes it out for a test drive at the showroom.

So what is it now? Does he want to replace his Cefiro based on which of the following reasons: Space? Fuel Economy? His Ego for sports cars? A sports family car? or a spacious Sedan like the cefiro.

Honda Accord is not very sporty. I think space wise it's about the same as cefiro. Whereas for the engine, Honda is definitely better.

The car is actually meant as a family car, so he wants the familly's take on the list of candidates.

1)Subaru Legacy
2)Subaru Wrx Sti
3)Mitsubishi Evo X
4)Lexus IS250
5)Honda Accord
6)Nissan FairladyZ

This list does not match. Lexus IS250 and Honda Accord looks out of place here as they are full fledge large/ medium sized sedan and the rest are Sports Sedans/ Coupes. Since it's meant as a family car, The Nissan 350Z shoud be out. There's no way you're going to fit 5 people in there and stay happy.

A full fledge large/ medium sedan has proper space, good FC if you aren't heavy footed, it's Japanese (as stated from the list), has enough space for 5, comfortable ambience with comfort orientatied cabin (Electronic climate control, Cruise Control, Leather seats... just to name a few) But don't expect nimble handling or tyre spinning torque/ power.

On the contary, Sports Sedans/ Coupes are not good on FC, it's mostly small and uncomfortable. And i don't think you can fit a family of 5 in there comfortably.

I have explained the confusion about the types of cars you and your dad have came out with. I hope you guys can refine your choices and be sure of what you need or want. The current requirements is simply contradictory.

the only choices left are the Nissan GT-R and the Evo X, The WRx.

Which would you choose regarding my father's background, family size and fuel economy?

dude....

just buy a Mitsubishi Lancer....

fit all your requirement
1. Jap car
2. hold 5 person
3. can speed quite fast
4. definitely not very expensive

Originally posted by Shanghai_Grand:

the only choices left are the Nissan GT-R and the Evo X, The WRx.

Which would you choose regarding my father's background, family size and fuel economy?

If given a choice, I would not choose neither of the 3. They simply don't have your specified requirements especially family size and fuel economy. But since you insisted on these cars that aren't suitable for your needs, Here's my verdict -

My choice would be: Evo X. It has the best space amongst the 3 cars. It's the cheapest i guess. It's pratical as the platform is borrowed from the normal Lancer EX.

PS: Really, given your requirements, get a bigger car.

Originally posted by uncle_abc:

dude....

just buy a Mitsubishi Lancer....

fit all your requirement
1. Jap car
2. hold 5 person
3. can speed quite fast
4. definitely not very expensive

I would rather they hold on to their current Cefiro than to downgrade to a Mit Lancer. Cefiro is far bigger than any Lancers. And more importantly, it meets all the requirements except the last 1.

But i don't think price would be the issue here as they want to get cars that are easily above 150k.

The cefiro isnt fast. My father could go only up to about 140+ on the NS highway near JB and he heard some damn rumbling sound from the tires.

Deduced it to be speed limiter and he was really abit upset. LOL.

I think we are not getting into the root of the problem.

Let me as the all important question.

What EXACTLY does your father not like about his Cefiro?
It seemed to me that in your first post, he claimed that the cefiro is too small.

To have a solution, you need a problem. So what's the problem with the Cefiro. After knowing the problem then can we advise you accordingly.

He claims accleration speed+Pickup is slow, considering its a V6

The car is quite jerky and plus limited top speed.

Handling is not nimble enough

Tires often loose grip easily when turning

thats what he complains.

Originally posted by Shanghai_Grand:

the only choices left are the Nissan GT-R and the Evo X, The WRx.

Which would you choose regarding my father's background, family size and fuel economy?

the gtr backseat no space to seat 3 ppl comfortable de
the new wrx is hatchback. backseats also should be quite cramp 1
and dont bullshiet with me that FC is high for MPVs.
cuz those 3 cars have even higher FC.
and looking at ur reputation in sgf.
it should be just another 'xiaoboi85' (those registered last time should understand)

if ur dad really so 'sport car enthusiast'
buy an m5.