http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 en-US 60 <p>Haha&nbsp; nick34.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Well thanks for your comments anyways.</p> Wed, 14 May 2008 14:29:36 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8085592 SheilaSarahRae http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by SheilaSarahRae:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Hi nehpyh</p> <p>The damage in total was around $1600. I know, not much, but it was a wake up call for me.</p> <p>Anyways, I just wanna say thanks to everyone for their constructive comments. Be it positive or negative. I appreciate them from the bottom of my heart. Conclusion is, I won't give up driving.</p> <p>Any moderators in here? How can I close this thread?</p> <p>Time for a new chapter in my life... :)</p> <p>Happy weekend everyone and God bless you all.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> *yawnzzz* anyone looking for moderator ??? Close this thread ??? I will say just leave it for others to read ... just to add ... i have friends who passed on the 1st try and ended up with quite a few accidents and also friends who passed on their 8th try without any accident on road till date .. It's really fun to drive *yawnnzzzz* back to bed again</p> Wed, 14 May 2008 11:50:55 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8085204 nick34 http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <p>familiarity with the vehicle u r driving is a very important factor causing accidents big or small .....</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>normally accidents happen when drivers .. esp new drivers who are unfamiliar with the car .. e.g. its biting point ... braking distance .. accerleration power etc ...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;word of advice is to keep a safe speed ( 70-90) on normal roads .... not exceeding 100 on expressways ..... n keep a safe following distance ...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>n yes .. its good to have an experienced driver beside u for the first few times u drive ....</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>most importantly is apply wat u haf learnt in driving lessons .... all the safety checks etc .... and DO NOT ever drink n drive ...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>have fun driving ...</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 22:07:23 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8076523 hao_hao http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <p>Hi nehpyh</p> <p>The damage in total was around $1600. I know, not much, but it was a wake up call for me.</p> <p>Anyways, I just wanna say thanks to everyone for their constructive comments. Be it positive or negative. I appreciate them from the bottom of my heart. Conclusion is, I won't give up driving.</p> <p>Any moderators in here? How can I close this thread?</p> <p>Time for a new chapter in my life... :)</p> <p>Happy weekend everyone and God bless you all.</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 21:53:25 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8076487 SheilaSarahRae http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <p>to err is human, to forgive divine. blood is thicker than water. flesh is softer than metal.</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 02:15:47 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8072401 SexFrenzy http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <p>Accident serves as a good, damn good reminder that we should not be complacent when driving. Provided you survived it and no one was hurt!</p> <p>I know. I whacked a stationary car the day I collected my license cos I was complacent and distracted!</p> <p>Lesson for all (who have not passed and those lending cars to first timer), never drive alone when you just passed. Never do anything else like answering calls, checking sms, looking at scenery, etc...</p> <p><br /> A large part of driving comes from street awareness, understanding of the traffic and vehicle. These instincts need time to develop.</p> <p>How much was the damage?</p> Wed, 07 May 2008 16:17:05 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8068374 nehpyh http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by mancha:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Those who pass on the first try usually stop learning on the day they pass, while those who&nbsp;repeat their test have additional practices and reinforcement of safety rules. So who will be the better driver?</p> <p>Those who are assessed by their instructors&nbsp; ready to book for the TP test, are already&nbsp;qualified to drive. They only need the government's licence. Licence means permission. Permission to drive on public roads. Therefore when you take the TP test you are already qualified to drive. If you are not qualified to drive, then you will not be allowed to take the test. <em>Comprehende!</em></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>agree. those who think they r really good drivers r usually the dangerous ones who weave in and out of traffice and haven't got into an accident yet.</p> Wed, 07 May 2008 16:10:24 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8068364 Unknown_X http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <p>Those who pass on the first try usually stop learning on the day they pass, while those who&nbsp;repeat their test have additional practices and reinforcement of safety rules. So who will be the better driver?</p> <p>Those who are assessed by their instructors&nbsp; ready to book for the TP test, are already&nbsp;qualified to drive. They only need the government's licence. Licence means permission. Permission to drive on public roads. Therefore when you take the TP test you are already qualified to drive. If you are not qualified to drive, then you will not be allowed to take the test. <em>Comprehende!</em></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Tue, 06 May 2008 23:46:35 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8067030 mancha http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by storywolf:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Frankly - if you failed that many time, it is really that your skill at driving is not really that good. The fact is if you have the right skill the accident would not happened !!!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>As for common sense, judgement &amp; adaptation .......&nbsp;- if you have it, face the fact - you would&nbsp;not have the accident also.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>If you&nbsp;are a weak&nbsp;driver,&nbsp;unable to concentrate - you should drive slower, short distances&nbsp;and&nbsp;know where the damn brake is - to get use to driving first.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> You just have to stop trying tell yourself that you are qualified to drive just because you got your licence !!! There is still no excuse for having the accident, you have to face it , and not try to come here to justify that it is just a moment of error !!!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Count yourself and your niece that you are lucky to be alive !!!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>*Sigh* Another one...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Well, my question is, do you have any facts to support your statement that "if you failed that many time, it is really that your skill at driving is not really that good."</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>So are you saying that those who pass their TP the first time&nbsp;would AUTOMATICALLY be inclined to drive? Even with say, not much driving experience, but just because they pass on their first attempt, it'll be unlikely that they'll get into an accident?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>That's a load of crap and you know it. And also, please tell me, just where exactly in all of my postings here have I ever tried to JUSTIFY my error???</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>"You just have to stop trying tell yourself that you are qualified to drive just because you got your licence !!!"</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>What kind of stupid reasoning is that?&nbsp;I'm not even going to bother to justify such stupidity.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Dude, seriously, if you have nothing constructive to comment about, why even bother?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Tue, 06 May 2008 14:04:33 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8065501 SheilaSarahRae http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by SheilaSarahRae:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Unknown_X...</p> <p>I have driven a few 1.5-1.8l cars and I found them a bit too big for my liking. I'm not exactly petite, I'm rather tall and lean...I guess you must be wondering why I don't prefer them big and spacious right? :)</p> <p>I just don't know why hatchback appeals more to me. :)</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> haha try driving a 2.5l or 3.0l sedan daily, what's a 1.8l? not&nbsp;showing off la,&nbsp;just to let u know that's all.&nbsp;hatchback appeals to the ladies more i think.</p> Tue, 06 May 2008 01:10:27 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8064806 Unknown_X http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <p>-</p> Tue, 06 May 2008 00:33:20 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8064688 soleachip http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by toyota-corolla:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> Isn't that a little exageratting? <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>it gets a lil dramatic i know. hehehe...</p> <p>tried pumping air in the tyres today for the very first time and i thought the tyres would explode.</p> Tue, 06 May 2008 00:32:45 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8064684 soleachip http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by SheilaSarahRae:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Hi everyone!</p> <p>Thanks for your comments.</p> <p>HolySniper.. only dip holder, so hao lian? Then again what have you being a dip holder got anything to do with your ability to drive? One of my friend's colleague, this super cocky guy, is extremely highly educated, drives a fancy car, but according to my friend, he's the worst driver ever! After offered a lift by him one day, my friend swore never to get in the same car again!</p> <p>So your theory of ''BUT when u can fail so many times before passing, it shows tat ur motor skills, estimation, confidence and judgement is not that good.. not good at adapting to changes?'' sounds so ridiculously lame, it's bordering on mild retardation.</p> <p>So are you trying to say if I were to pass on my first attempt, I'm automatically a super duper perfect driver? Granted, there are those who're just inclined to drive, and many others, like me, who needs more practice before getting the hang of it. Not good at adapting to changes? Nah, hardly. I grew up poor, and if there's one thing that I've learned from my humble beginnings, I've learned to adapt to everything revolving around me and not the latter.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Frankly - if you failed that many time, it is really that your skill at driving is not really that good. The fact is if you have the right skill the accident would not happened !!!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>As for common sense, judgement &amp; adaptation .......&nbsp;- if you have it, face the fact - you would&nbsp;not have the accident also.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>If you&nbsp;are a weak&nbsp;driver,&nbsp;unable to concentrate - you should drive slower, short distances&nbsp;and&nbsp;know where the damn brake is - to get use to driving first.&nbsp;<br /> <br /> You just have to stop trying tell yourself that you are qualified to drive just because you got your licence !!! There is still no excuse for having the accident, you have to face it , and not try to come here to justify that it is just a moment of error !!!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Count yourself and your niece that you are lucky to be alive !!!<br /></p> Tue, 06 May 2008 00:30:26 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8064673 storywolf http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by soleachip:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>no idea, never stall before on auto car will do it on a weekend in case the whole thing explodes before i set off for work.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Isn't that a little exageratting? <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /></p> Mon, 05 May 2008 23:04:13 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8064376 toyota-corolla http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <p>Unknown_X...</p> <p>I have driven a few 1.5-1.8l cars and I found them a bit too big for my liking. I'm not exactly petite, I'm rather tall and lean...I guess you must be wondering why I don't prefer them big and spacious right? :)</p> <p>I just don't know why hatchback appeals more to me. :)</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Mon, 05 May 2008 21:40:26 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8064106 SheilaSarahRae http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <p>Guys..please don't turn this thread into a racist one..</p> <p>n0x..I appreciate your comments...and I know how frustrating it is reading those immature and shallow ones. These people are entitled to their opinions no matter how ridiculous it sounds. Then again as we all know, an empty vessel makes the most noise. :)</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Sinicker, who cares what race you are and if you're driving your dad's car? Don't be too sensitive ah? :)</p> <p>Hope you're all indoors! Another damn hot day today! :S</p> Mon, 05 May 2008 21:30:35 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8064058 SheilaSarahRae http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <p>wow we even have a taichi master in here..<img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_eek.gif" alt="icon_eek.gif" /></p> Mon, 05 May 2008 21:12:16 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8063989 stellazio http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by n0x:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>my hands are clean all along...</p> <p>u are juz too sensitive..</p> <p>once again.. take care...</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> okay take care..<br /> <br /> goodbye!!!!!</p> Mon, 05 May 2008 21:11:13 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8063982 sinicker http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by sinicker:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> hahaha.. another great attempt. i like your way of "washing your hands off"</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>my hands are clean all along...</p> <p>u are juz too sensitive..</p> <p>once again.. take care...</p> Mon, 05 May 2008 21:05:11 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8063953 n0x http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by n0x:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>i haven a problem with u being malay... which line suggests so...</p> <p>and was i talking about u?? why are u so sensitive abt this....</p> <p>and was it an attempt at anything??? i doubt so....</p> <p>i was juz talking about general stuff...</p> <p>why do u have to take me down the guilt trip with hospitals and stuff??</p> <p>anyways take care...</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> hahaha.. another great attempt. i like your way of "washing your hands off"</p> Mon, 05 May 2008 21:02:03 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8063943 sinicker http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by sinicker:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> hahaha.<br /> <br /> i've been watching the thread frm sat night but not said anything coz' i've been watching.<br /> <br /> it's good that some of you have examples of first-time TP testee passers who have been involved in accidents. but in an argument, we need statistics to further back up the examples. i wish to type long2. but i'm tired after spending a day in hospital.<br /> <br /> so nox, with that line of yours... which is the problem? me being malay or me using my dad's car so i can shuttle between tampines &amp; the far west?<br /> <br /> i smile at your weak attempt. but nevertheless, one thumb up for you. :)<br /> <br /> this week, i'll be in hospital everyday. so continue all the bickering you want. have a great week ahead.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>i haven a problem with u being malay... which line suggests so...</p> <p>and was i talking about u?? why are u so sensitive abt this....</p> <p>and was it an attempt at anything??? i doubt so....</p> <p>i was juz talking about general stuff...</p> <p>why do u have to take me down the guilt trip with hospitals and stuff??</p> <p>anyways take care...</p> Mon, 05 May 2008 21:00:02 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8063927 n0x http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Xcert:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>I dont think its fair to bar someone from anything just because he/she didnt clear it the first few times...</p> <p>The point here is that as long as the person is able to clear the test(be it driving test or O level or watever)...then that person should have the skills and knowledge required for that level of competency...at least theroretically-speaking...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> yes. it isnt fair after all the money and time spent.<br /> <br /> from the start, i simply typed it as a thought. i certainly didnt expect myself to be shot down as arrogant, a show-off, a malay boy using a car my dad bought using his retirement money....<br /> <br /> i wish to type a long explaination at why i came to such a thought. but i dont think it's wise lest i get shot down again by some keyboard warriors.</p> Mon, 05 May 2008 20:57:36 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8063913 sinicker http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by n0x:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>the other one... a malay boy driving his family's grey car in which his father used his cpf money to buy... living with the constant fear that pple do not know he is driving a car of a particular marque and model.... and what better way to exploit this thread to let pple know of his car and his skills....</p> <p>grow up pls...</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> hahaha.<br /> <br /> i've been watching the thread frm sat night but not said anything coz' i've been watching.<br /> <br /> it's good that some of you have examples of first-time TP testee passers who have been involved in accidents. but in an argument, we need statistics to further back up the examples. i wish to type long2. but i'm tired after spending a day in hospital.<br /> <br /> so nox, with that line of yours... which is the problem? me being malay or me using my dad's car so i can shuttle between tampines &amp; the far west?<br /> <br /> i smile at your weak attempt. but nevertheless, one thumb up for you. :)<br /> <br /> this week, i'll be in hospital everyday. so continue all the bickering you want. have a great week ahead.</p> Mon, 05 May 2008 20:44:37 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8063861 sinicker http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <p>sigh... another topic for over inflated egos to come out and play...</p> <p>in particular 2 kids who passed their driving test on the first try...</p> <p>talks of driving at fast speeds and boasting of superhuman driving capabilities while at the same time making degratory remarks of TS's ability...</p> <p>one of them... i still remember his immature talks of F1 heroics at the traffic light with a rented car... juz wun learn and comes back with more childish remarks.... sigh...</p> <p>the other one... a malay boy driving his family's grey car in which his father used his cpf money to buy... living with the constant fear that pple do not know he is driving a car of a particular marque and model.... and what better way to exploit this thread to let pple know of his car and his skills....</p> <p>these are typical examples of&nbsp;why a run-away ego can make u look stupid and childish...</p> <p>grow up pls...</p> Mon, 05 May 2008 17:27:39 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8063277 n0x http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by sinicker:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>well, they say the most painful lesson will have the most effect on you...<br /> <br /> but something bugs me, shudnt the TP completely disqualify/bar someone from driving once he fails a 2nd/3rd or multiple times?<br /> <br /> taking multiple times and yet not passing more or less would say, he/she just cannot drive. it's like having a student retain and take the O levels 3/4 times. what say you all?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I dont think its fair to bar someone from anything just because he/she didnt clear it the first few times...</p> <p>The point here is that as long as the person is able to clear the test(be it driving test or O level or watever)...then that person should have the skills and knowledge required for that level of competency...at least theroretically-speaking...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Mon, 05 May 2008 15:33:40 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316288:8063071 Xcert http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316288