Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by nightsky87 @ Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:34:44 +0800

nightsky87 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:34:44 +0800

Originally posted by mh2:

how u drive affect FC

CVVT affect performance on high RPM. that is need for aggressive "no give way tactic" got it?

1.5 CVVT vs 1.6 non-CVVT very fun meh?

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by mh2 @ Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:16:40 +0800

mh2 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:16:40 +0800

Originally posted by nightsky87:

Not that it makes much difference? The new lancer EX got MIVEC but some people actually getting far better FC on their lancer 1.6 than the EX 1.5. Compared to the other VVT engines, MIVEC is nothing special. Toyota using vvti and honda using ivtec since donkey years ago, now wanna mivec here mivec there a bit too late also huh.

dun u know that EX is fucking heavy?

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by mh2 @ Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:15:29 +0800

mh2 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:15:29 +0800

how u drive affect FC

CVVT affect performance on high RPM. that is need for aggressive "no give way tactic" got it?

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by nightsky87 @ Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:29:16 +0800

nightsky87 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:29:16 +0800

Originally posted by Ferrari_RoXz:

Actually all these terms for the engine all about the same 1 la. VVT, then VVTi VTEC MIVEC

It's all has to do with the camshaft/valve timing. Not much of a difference. What matters most is how u drive the car, and not the engine's name that matters.

Exactly. That's why I dont understand why mh2 thinks its that big of an issue.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by Ferrari_RoXz @ Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:10:47 +0800

Ferrari_RoXz — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:10:47 +0800

Actually all these terms for the engine all about the same 1 la. VVT, then VVTi VTEC MIVEC

It's all has to do with the camshaft/valve timing. Not much of a difference. What matters most is how u drive the car, and not the engine's name that matters.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by nightsky87 @ Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:11:51 +0800

nightsky87 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:11:51 +0800

Originally posted by mh2:

Mazda 3 got good look. but the engine is not CVVT.

Not that it makes much difference? The new lancer EX got MIVEC but some people actually getting far better FC on their lancer 1.6 than the EX 1.5. Compared to the other VVT engines, MIVEC is nothing special. Toyota using vvti and honda using ivtec since donkey years ago, now wanna mivec here mivec there a bit too late also huh.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by mh2 @ Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:58:28 +0800

mh2 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:58:28 +0800

Originally posted by tide1967:

thanks.. I do agree ..i am still undecide between a altis08 or EX 1.5.

i like the design of EX but i hope it FC won't be like my previous nissan sunny or laser..

Altis08 looks good but feel "boring" moving from oldaltis to altis08...if stick to altis08 then may consider the "body-kit" options..sigh!

Mazda 3 got good look. but the engine is not CVVT.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by tide1967 @ Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:01:06 +0800

tide1967 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:01:06 +0800

thanks.. I do agree ..i am still undecide between a altis08 or EX 1.5.

i like the design of EX but i hope it FC won't be like my previous nissan sunny or laser..

Altis08 looks good but feel "boring" moving from oldaltis to altis08...if stick to altis08 then may consider the "body-kit" options..sigh!

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by alleggerita @ Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:04:03 +0800

alleggerita — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:04:03 +0800

Originally posted by tide1967:

NewForce,

what is your FC like? what is the mileage shown "Low-Fuel" indicator?

I am looking for a 1.5A too but worries about FC.

thanks,

You can never take other owners' figures as benchmark. It will never be accurate. Because FC is very largely dependent on your driving style. I believe nearly all engines in the 1.5-litre category will perform very similarly.

You want low FC? Sure. Just make sure you don't ram your accelerator and don't brake with all your might. Anticipate the traffic and coast to a stop in neutral if possible (though it's rather dangerous to be free-wheeling). After reaching cruising speed, keep the rpm constant as much as possible. Makes a huge lot of difference.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by tide1967 @ Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:44:50 +0800

tide1967 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:44:50 +0800

NewForce,

what is your FC like? what is the mileage shown "Low-Fuel" indicator?

I am looking for a 1.5A too but worries about FC.

thanks,

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by alleggerita @ Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:31:07 +0800

alleggerita — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:31:07 +0800

Originally posted by NewForce:

I drove an old Altis before, so I feeling the same thing like what you said.

I felt much comfy driving the new Lancer EX than the old Altis, even when it is new.

I think it's because the Altis still uses the cheap and proven torsion beam setup for the rear suspension system.

The Lancer EX uses a multi-link setup for its rear suspension. Hence, the EX's tail probably feels more planted at higher speeds than the Altis, giving the impression the EX is more comfortable.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by NewForce @ Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:03:00 +0800

NewForce — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:03:00 +0800

Originally posted by gigabyte14:

the EX hor, dunno why when i drive it, the speed and stuffs are smoother than the old altis, despite the 1.6 and 1.5 difference

i only drive before these three, but i'm a noob at cars, haha

pardon my noobness

I drove an old Altis before, so I feeling the same thing like what you said.

I felt much comfy driving the new Lancer EX than the old Altis, even when it is new.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by NewForce @ Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:51:30 +0800

NewForce — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:51:30 +0800

Originally posted by mh2:

ya, dun worry. your car is good enough for u, congrat. Enjoy it.

but dun you think the old lancer is a better buy? jus my 2 cent.

No offence... buy old Lancer will make me feel like buying an old second hand car and will not feeling happy about that.

So even if the old one $6~8K cheaper but it don't make me feel like I had just bought a new car for myself.

Anyway I love the new generation Lancer EX design very much.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by n0x @ Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:03:29 +0800

n0x — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:03:29 +0800

Originally posted by alleggerita:

mh2 and his hatred for Mitsubishi again. I'm seriously wondering what has Mitsubishi done to mh2 that warrants such hatred from mh2.

its not so much of hatred.. its more of egotistical behaviour.. LOL

u see ...he based his existence in sgforums on some dislike for mitsubshi...

so if u see him backing down now.. his ego will be torn to shreads...

this is the last bastion of comfort for the loser's ego... LOL

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by alleggerita @ Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:10:39 +0800

alleggerita — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:10:39 +0800

mh2 and his hatred for Mitsubishi again. I'm seriously wondering what has Mitsubishi done to mh2 that warrants such hatred from mh2.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by gigabyte14 @ Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:43:44 +0800

gigabyte14 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:43:44 +0800

Originally posted by NewForce:

Before bought my new car today, I had actually tested Mazda3, Altis 08 and Lancer EX 1.5A.

So my order goes to.... Lancer EX 1.5A

Why? See below...

1. Super value for money. For just $58,988, I got a very attractive newly designed and larger car that come along with goodies like 16" sport rim, leather seats, factory fitted tinted glass, reverse sensor with distance-to measuring, 3M floor matt, rain visor and others. No disc brake? Doesn't matter as the drum brake was more than enough for a 1.5L car.

2. Very good looking interior design and the red lighted meters with trip computer was sexy too. Instrument deck, control buttons, especially the doors panel looking better than those on Civic, at least make me feeling cheap.

3. Good looking, comfort and very supportive seats for the front and rear too.

4. Good designed engine that built by ex-Mercedes Benz power plant in Germany that provide better power curve at most rpm.

5. Good steering wheel and corner control when drive hard.

6. Low noise when cruising. I don't rev unnecessary and if I does, I'm more focus on the traffic instead of the sporty engine noise. Boh pian mah, road condition and safety more important then focusing on the car noise.

7. Good FC, according sources.

8. Not bad 6 speakers stereo sound system for in-car-entertainment. I'm a Hi-Fi sound tuning expert, so I've know what is a good sound, when I heard it. All just don't ask too much for low price ice system but expect it to sound good is enough.

Think that will be more joy for me to discover when I got my key in 2 weeks time.

the EX hor, dunno why when i drive it, the speed and stuffs are smoother than the old altis, despite the 1.6 and 1.5 difference

i only drive before these three, but i'm a noob at cars, haha

pardon my noobness

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by mh2 @ Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:40:19 +0800

mh2 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:40:19 +0800

Originally posted by NewForce:

Jes.. you sound like only knowing one bad news and is about Mitsubishi.

Did you read all others car manufacturers defects and some caused death?

Also, did you read about bad defects from Top German Porsche, Merc, BMW, Audi... to Japan Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Subaru... to American Chevrolet, Ford, Chrysler... and lastly Hyundai and Kia?

Wake-up and get real will ya?

ya, dun worry. your car is good enough for u, congrat. Enjoy it.

but dun you think the old lancer is a better buy? jus my 2 cent.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by n0x @ Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:41:39 +0800

n0x — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:41:39 +0800

Originally posted by mh2:

still talking about Mit?

see here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080715/ap_on_bi_ge/japan_mitsubishi_trial_6

Mitsubishi motors suck always, Big Time. Thk.

you dun come and show 1 isolated incident.. and then shoot down the company totally...

and especially not when someone has juz bought a car from tt particular company...

dun be an insensitive f***

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by NewForce @ Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:02:20 +0800

NewForce — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:02:20 +0800

Jes.. you sound like only knowing one bad news and is about Mitsubishi.

Did you read all others car manufacturers defects and some caused death?

Also, did you read about bad defects from Top German Porsche, Merc, BMW, Audi... to Japan Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Subaru... to American Chevrolet, Ford, Chrysler... and lastly Hyundai and Kia?

Wake-up and get real will ya?

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by mh2 @ Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:59:09 +0800

mh2 — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:59:09 +0800

still talking about Mit?

see here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080715/ap_on_bi_ge/japan_mitsubishi_trial_6

Mitsubishi motors suck always, Big Time. Thk.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by NewForce @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:06:56 +0800

NewForce — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:06:56 +0800

It should be okay for me. Was told 0~100km in 11sec (10.8 to be exact). The 2.0 is just for driver for hunger for speed.

Beside buying a 2.0 is not that adviseable considering the petrol getting higher and higher. A 2.0L car will only suck-up more petrol and your money.

And also second hand value also lower as demand for 2.0 car very low. Our people here always prefer a 1.6 and below car.

Btw, if you just look at new '08 Altis 1.6A still with the same old 4speed AT engine

but still lots of people buying into. The story same goes to Mazda3 1.6A, Honda 1.6A, Subaru Impleza 1.5A, Nissan Latio 1.5A.

In Singapore who'll need a 2.0? And the answer, Very Few!

If you compare new '08 Altis and Lancer EX power, then there should be no more doubts about Lancer 1.5A EX.

For new Altis '08 with old 1.6A 4AT

Power 107 bhp Torque 145 Nm

Kerb weight 1,255kg

Dimensions (L x W x H) (4540 x 1760 x 1465)mm Wheelbase 2,600mm

For Lancer EX with new 1.5A 4AT

Power 109 bhp Torque 143 Nm

Kerb weight 1,260kg

Dimensions (L x W x H) (4570 x 1760 x 1490)mm Wheelbase 2,635mm

Last but not least, if I were going to buy a 2.0L car then I would rather go for the bigger and good looking new Mazda6 2.0 V (A) which just about 2~3K $ more instead of Lancer 2.0 GT (A).

Dimensions (L x W x H) (4755 x 1795 x 1440)mm Wheelbase 2,725mm

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by ceecookie @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:32:39 +0800

ceecookie — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:32:39 +0800

Originally posted by NewForce:

Before bought my new car today, I had actually tested Mazda3, Altis 08 and Lancer EX 1.5A.

So my order goes to.... Lancer EX 1.5A

Why? See below...

1. Super value for money. For just $58,988, I got a very attractive newly designed and larger car that come along with goodies like 16" sport rim, leather seats, factory fitted tinted glass, reverse sensor with distance-to measuring, 3M floor matt, rain visor and others. No disc brake? Doesn't matter as the drum brake was more than enough for a 1.5L car.

2. Very good looking interior design and the red lighted meters with trip computer was sexy too. Instrument deck, control buttons, especially the doors panel looking better than those on Civic, at least make me feeling cheap.

3. Good looking, comfort and very supportive seats for the front and rear too.

4. Good designed engine that built by ex-Mercedes Benz power plant in Germany that provide better power curve at most rpm.

5. Good steering wheel and corner control when drive hard.

6. Low noise when cruising. I don't rev unnecessary and if I does, I'm more focus on the traffic instead of the sporty engine noise. Boh pian mah, road condition and safety more important then focusing on the car noise.

7. Good FC, according sources.

8. Not bad 6 speakers stereo sound system for in-car-entertainment. I'm a Hi-Fi sound tuning expert, so I've know what is a good sound, when I heard it. All just don't ask too much for low price ice system but expect it to sound good is enough.

Think that will be more joy for me to discover when I got my key in 2 weeks time.

Are you okay with the power-to-weght ratio?Due to the same body used on the 2.0 but with a smaller engine a common remarks from 1.5 owners is that the power is not that much.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by NewForce @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:41:55 +0800

NewForce — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:41:55 +0800

Before bought my new car today, I had actually tested Mazda3, Altis 08 and Lancer EX 1.5A.

So my order goes to.... Lancer EX 1.5A

Why? See below...

1. Super value for money. For just $58,988, I got a very attractive newly designed and larger car that come along with goodies like 16" sport rim, leather seats, factory fitted tinted glass, reverse sensor with distance-to measuring, 3M floor matt, rain visor and others. No disc brake? Doesn't matter as the drum brake was more than enough for a 1.5L car.

2. Very good looking interior design and the red lighted meters with trip computer was sexy too. Instrument deck, control buttons, especially the doors panel looking better than those on Civic, at least make me feeling cheap.

3. Good looking, comfort and very supportive seats for the front and rear too.

4. Good designed engine that built by ex-Mercedes Benz power plant in Germany that provide better power curve at most rpm.

5. Good steering wheel and corner control when drive hard.

6. Low noise when cruising. I don't rev unnecessary and if I does, I'm more focus on the traffic instead of the sporty engine noise. Boh pian mah, road condition and safety more important then focusing on the car noise.

7. Good FC, according sources.

8. Not bad 6 speakers stereo sound system for in-car-entertainment. I'm a Hi-Fi sound tuning expert, so I've know what is a good sound, when I heard it. All just don't ask too much for low price ice system but expect it to sound good is enough.

Think that will be more joy for me to discover when I got my key in 2 weeks time.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by sinicker @ Sun, 18 May 2008 02:10:58 +0800

sinicker — Sun, 18 May 2008 02:10:58 +0800

Originally posted by HeXy:

Yea man i surf mazdaclub.. jalan bahar? are u a NTU student too? lol..

i served my NS in CDA. this august i study in NTU. so that means 6 years of jalan bahar for me!! crazy.

btw, i just recorded my FC as i pump petrol just now.

410.2km/37.22L = 12.52km/l approximately.

Lancer EX vs Mazda3 SP vs Altis 08 replied by HeXy @ Thu, 15 May 2008 02:25:56 +0800

HeXy — Thu, 15 May 2008 02:25:56 +0800

Originally posted by sinicker:

i get around 11.5-12.3km/l. maybe the way i calculate also wrong. especially when i dono the pump attendant pump until auto-stop or he go on and put in more.

but the best i got was 12.5. haha. it involved driving frm tamp to jln bahar & back aircon off, windows up tho. was nursing a flu.

u surf mazdaclub?

Yea man i surf mazdaclub.. jalan bahar? are u a NTU student too? lol..

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