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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Fallen_Heaven @ Sun, 11 May 2008 01:47:36 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I managed to get a first hand of&amp;nbsp;my car&amp;nbsp;revving.
=).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;For V6 fans, enjoy the pure power!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImIUYZ6cEKY" rel=
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Ferrari_RoXz @ Wed, 07 May 2008 20:37:31 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;As stated in my 2nd previous post, D3 limits your gear at Gear 3
if you are using a 4 speed auto gearbox. For example, you are
crusing in the middle lane on an expressway in Gear 4, then you
find this person in front driving too slowly and decide to
overtake. You could either:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) Just leave your Gear in D position and just step on the
accelerator harder, the autobox will sense that you want more power
and automatically shifts down into Gear 3.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) If you are not confident that you will overtake fast enough, you
could put it into D3, this is when the gearbox will 'force' the
gearbox to change into Gear 3. The electronics onboard will tune
the accelerator pressure VERY slightly so that you will have faster
response time. The difference in response is not very noticable,
espically in non performance car like your Cefiro.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In conclusion, D3 is used to force the gearbox to change into Gear
3 if you are using a 4 speed auto gearbox. It also improves
accelerator response very slightly. So, D3 is usually used for
overtaking in difficult circumstances. It is sort of changing a
manual gear box from gear 4 to gear 3. Works the same way. But if
you are really not confident, I suggest just don't medle with the
gearbox, just step on the accelerator harder if you want to
overtake. But, there is no harm trying! :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:37:31 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Fallen_Heaven @ Wed, 07 May 2008 20:30:05 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;This D3 is to improve engine response?.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SOrry.. im kinda noob .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:30:05 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Ferrari_RoXz @ Wed, 07 May 2008 20:27:39 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by Fallen_Heaven:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks!!.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So i do i have to let go of the acclerator before changing to
either D2 or D3?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Nope, just drive as per normal. Put one thing to take note of. Most
cars have this saftey feature to prevent you from shifting to D2 or
D1 accidentally. Meaning, you have to press your gear stick button
to engage D2 or D1. Most cars do not need you to press the gear
stick button for D3. In D3, you will feel that your car is more
'powerful and responsive'. So don't be surpirsed if the car
suddenly accelrates faster. Just drive normaly and you should be
fine.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Fallen_Heaven @ Wed, 07 May 2008 20:19:32 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks!!.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So i do i have to let go of the acclerator before changing to
either D2 or D3?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:19:32 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Ferrari_RoXz @ Wed, 07 May 2008 20:17:00 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;You can immediately start your engine (as in straight away
turn&amp;nbsp;to "start") instead of putting the key at "On" position
till the lights go off. In short, just turn your car&amp;nbsp;key like
you would when you are opening your house door with your house key.
Short and sweet, don't need worry about so many things.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'5 Star treatment' is meant to say that you treat your engine with
extreme care, such as waiting for all the lights to go off. This is
usually done by people who are very afraid that anything will go
wrong with&amp;nbsp;their car.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
D3 is also known as&amp;nbsp;"sport mode". If your car is a 4 speed
gearbox, it keeps your your gearbox at Gear 3 for extended period
of time (usually until you reach the redline before changing up to
4). It is useful for overtaking, especially on expressways. D2 and
D1&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;not really applicable in S'pore as there is very
little 'moutain roads'. D2 could be used when going up moutain
slope such as Genting or going down steep slope to maintain engine
braking. D1 is usually&amp;nbsp;used&amp;nbsp;when people drive cars with
traillers attached to them. In short, there is no use for D1 in
Singapore at all. If you are confused, then I suggest that you keep
your gear lever at D. Good enough on S'pore roads.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hope this clarifies your doubts. :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:17:00 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by alleggerita @ Wed, 07 May 2008 00:51:37 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by Fallen_Heaven:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
o_o that what&amp;nbsp; ferarri_roxz mean about 5 star treatment?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sry.. ps but another qn.. D1+D2+D3 stands for?&amp;nbsp; My Cefiro
is not CVT.. bt auto.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I heard they are for mountainous driving but have never tried
them yet..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;seems that it has more throttle response..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;D1, D2, D3 are all just different shift programmes to suit
different needs. Be it more acceleration, slope, etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Fallen_Heaven @ Wed, 07 May 2008 00:39:20 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by alleggerita:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No la. Nothing has ever been proven about this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
o_o that what&amp;nbsp; ferarri_roxz mean about 5 star treatment?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sry.. ps but another qn.. D1+D2+D3 stands for?&amp;nbsp; My Cefiro
is not CVT.. bt auto.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I heard they are for mountainous driving but have never tried
them yet..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;seems that it has more throttle response..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:39:20 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by alleggerita @ Wed, 07 May 2008 00:33:04 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by Fallen_Heaven:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So starting without 5 secs does cause abit of stress on the
engine?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No la. Nothing has ever been proven about this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:33:04 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Fallen_Heaven @ Wed, 07 May 2008 00:21:15 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So starting without 5 secs does cause abit of stress on the
engine?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:21:15 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Ferrari_RoXz @ Tue, 06 May 2008 23:56:21 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;There is absolutely no problem in starting your engine when all
those lights are on. But make sure those 'problem indicators' such
as engine oil pressure and ABS signs go off AFTER starting your
engine. It will usually go off within 5 secs after starting your
engine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It's also very normal for the engine to go to 2k rpm during start
up. Looking at your video, nothing seems wrong about your engine,
so relax!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just to add on, you don't have to wait for the lights to go off
before starting your engine. In your video, it seems you are very
cautious and waited for a 5 secs before starting your engine. In
case of an emergency, you wouldn't want to wait that long to get
your engine started. But if you insist on '5 star treatment' for
your engine then I leave it up to you, it's your car and you have
to make the final decision.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:56:21 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Fallen_Heaven @ Tue, 06 May 2008 23:25:29 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by tomsss:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;when you turn on the ignition key (before engine crank), the car
system electronics does a self test, to check all the vital
components are ok. These are indicated by the lighted lamps. as you
turn on the key. If the check is ok, the lamps will go off after a
while, if there is something wrong, it will either turn yellow or
red and remains there. No harm cranking up the engine before the
lights go off cos the system check will continue as norm.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Oic. So the light will only stay after seven secs.. (the manual
says), if there is smth wrong?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:25:29 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by tomsss @ Tue, 06 May 2008 22:07:33 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;when you turn on the ignition key (before engine crank), the car
system electronics does a self test, to check all the vital
components are ok. These are indicated by the lighted lamps. as you
turn on the key. If the check is ok, the lamps will go off after a
while, if there is something wrong, it will either turn yellow or
red and remains there. No harm cranking up the engine before the
lights go off cos the system check will continue as norm.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:07:33 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by alleggerita @ Tue, 06 May 2008 21:49:38 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by Fallen_Heaven:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Next servicing is oct tis year. so there's nth wrong for waiting
for the airbag light to go off first den start?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Usually even if you start the engine in the middle of its self
diagnosis, it shouldn't be a problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Added: And I thought self diagnosis is done only AFTER engine is
started up?&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src=
"/images/emoticons/classic/icon_confused.gif" alt=
"icon_confused.gif" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 21:49:38 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Fallen_Heaven @ Tue, 06 May 2008 02:53:58 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Oic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Next servicing is oct tis year. so there's nth wrong for waiting
for the airbag light to go off first den start?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 02:53:58 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by alleggerita @ Tue, 06 May 2008 00:59:28 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Some cars nowadays have auto warm up feature just like what
storywolf said. I have seen some continental cars (like the S40)
holding the rev at about 2,000-2,500rpm for about 30-50 seconds
depending on the temperature. Even my father's picanto holds it at
about 1,200-1,400rpm for about 3-4minutes at startup when engine is
cold. I would say it's normal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Added: But of course, best to check with Tan Chong the next time
you bring it for servicing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Fallen_Heaven @ Tue, 06 May 2008 00:33:17 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Oo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i see.. is this the fuel injector or smth?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 00:33:17 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by storywolf @ Tue, 06 May 2008 00:17:39 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by Fallen_Heaven:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hi all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I currently have a Nissan Cefiro 230JM (2 years old) and i need
some advise regarding engine startup.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is it okay to start up the car before the airbag light in the
dashboard goes off? cause i dunno what wrong startup maybe can
cause&amp;nbsp; pre tensioner system to haywire. heard from my
friend.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nixMHDjkuTY" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nixMHDjkuTY&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;as u can see from the vid the speedo rises up from 0- 2k rpm
when i start. is that normal? cause i never experience that
before.. it usually goes up to 1k rpm and stays there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Modern cars have inbuild some auto warm up - which will see that
it will go 2k rpm - to get the oil and other things flowing and
warm up .... once that is done, it will goes down to 1k&amp;nbsp;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Fallen_Heaven @ Mon, 05 May 2008 23:44:48 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by n0x:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;how bout u dig up ur manual to read first??&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;cos not all of us have driven or owned this car before...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and usually when starting up.. it is normal for a car to rev up
to 2k rpm plus b4 dropping back to sub 1k rpm...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Manual doesnt state anything.. so i need help..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it due to the temp that the car revs to 2k? i heard its due
to the oil .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by n0x @ Mon, 05 May 2008 22:10:25 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;how bout u dig up ur manual to read first??&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;cos not all of us have driven or owned this car before...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and usually when starting up.. it is normal for a car to rev up
to 2k rpm plus b4 dropping back to sub 1k rpm...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Fallen_Heaven @ Mon, 05 May 2008 22:01:21 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I really need help.. .. it would be appreciated ^^&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 22:01:21 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Help Need Advise reg Engine startup replied by Fallen_Heaven @ Sun, 04 May 2008 23:03:12 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I currently have a Nissan Cefiro 230JM (2 years old) and i need
some advise regarding engine startup.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is it okay to start up the car before the airbag light in the
dashboard goes off? cause i dunno what wrong startup maybe can
cause&amp;nbsp; pre tensioner system to haywire. heard from my
friend.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nixMHDjkuTY" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nixMHDjkuTY&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;as u can see from the vid the speedo rises up from 0- 2k rpm
when i start. is that normal? cause i never experience that
before.. it usually goes up to 1k rpm and stays there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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