http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 en-US 60 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by pyjamasgirl:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>ah. then how</p> <p>my airbags got deployed.</p> <p>my rpm sometimes can shoot to 3000 3500 when slowly accelerating to only 70,80km/h</p> <p>the hard dragging noise from e engine is alw thr when travelling 90 onwards. sometimes even from 80..</p> <p>my front part of bonnet got hit, dented all the way in. but the mechanic told me engine not affected. i hope he wasnt lying..</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Have you observe before what's the rpm at 70-80km/h last time before the accident? If the rpm is abnormally high now, there's definitely a problem somewhere.</p> <p>The mechanic might be right. Engine might still be in good condition because every car has a crumple zone in front and behind of the engine. Even if the front of the car is mashed up, it might only be the crumple zone gone, and the engine left untouched.</p> <p>Imagine | 0 | &lt;-- this is the engine bay and the "0" is the engine. After accident --&gt; |0|, engine still intact. Pardon my poor diagram.</p> Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:42:23 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8280415 alleggerita http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>how come you are the last car and you have to pay for so much? Did all of the cars stop in a traffic jam and your car happens to knock on the car in front and due to momentum, all the other cars get hit as well?</p> <p>If that's not the case, i think the fault lies in the car in front lor. Must be the front car suddenly brake, causing all the cars behind to crash.</p> Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:11:32 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8280023 weewee http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>ah. then how</p> <p>my airbags got deployed.</p> <p>my rpm sometimes can shoot to 3000 3500 when slowly accelerating to only 70,80km/h</p> <p>the hard dragging noise from e engine is alw thr when travelling 90 onwards. sometimes even from 80..</p> <p>my front part of bonnet got hit, dented all the way in. but the mechanic told me engine not affected. i hope he wasnt lying..</p> Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:41:55 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8279965 pyjamasgirl http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>Certainly not fixed properly. My uncle's vehicle got involved in an accident recently too. Frontal impact as well, but slightly offset to the left side, but no airbags deployed. Car got to be towed off.</p> <p>After repairs looks absolutely fine externally, but engine bay emits a strange whining noise that's faint but audible. The whine is always there regardless of engine speed (rpm). It's probably not from the engine since it's unaffected by rpm. Probably not the gearbox too. Until now source of whining still cannot be found.</p> Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:36:59 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8278407 alleggerita http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>i didnt write off.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>the car is still in superb condition..</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>just that when travelling above 90km/h, the engine sounds bit noisy n hard, like too taxing for it. never used to be like this.</p> Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:06:57 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8278323 pyjamasgirl http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by pyjamasgirl:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>im the 5th car.</p> <p>so 4 cars claim frm me. plus my own.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>very shitty</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>indeed.</p> <p>so you didn't write off?</p> Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:35:54 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8273581 alwaysdisturbed http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>im the 5th car.</p> <p>so 4 cars claim frm me. plus my own.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>very shitty</p> Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:56:21 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8273214 pyjamasgirl http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>ah shit.</p> <p>you shld hv told me earlier on..</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>anyway if write off, i dont knw how much they'll pay me. then my outstanding bank loan also cham..</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:55:37 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8273212 pyjamasgirl http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>Seriously, writing it off would be a better choice. Because once you fix this bad damage, it'll be in your car's accident history already. And if you intend to sell it off next time, value would be very low because your car has a bad past.</p> Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:12:49 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8271129 alleggerita http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by pyjamasgirl:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>ya man.</p> <p>shitty law.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>couldnt brake in time. cuz it was kinda sudden. didnt expect it. i guess was dreaming too. =)</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>dont knw what i will do when my ins expires man. gonnna cost me a bomb!!!!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>all claim 'bao bao' from me..</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>how many cars claimed from you?</p> Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:25:38 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8271025 alwaysdisturbed http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>ya man.</p> <p>shitty law.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>couldnt brake in time. cuz it was kinda sudden. didnt expect it. i guess was dreaming too. =)</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>dont knw what i will do when my ins expires man. gonnna cost me a bomb!!!!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>all claim 'bao bao' from me..</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:38:52 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8268134 pyjamasgirl http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fatum:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>i was involved in a similar accident before too ... some fellow kissed my car's ass ....&nbsp;</p> <p>no damage to mine, but one side of his bumper fell off ...&nbsp;</p> <p>fellow was pissed, even though he banged into my ass .... I told him to stick it up his own ass ... cos the insurers, and the TP, will both tell you ....</p> <p>if you cannot break in time, you were probably travelling too fast and/or following too closely ....</p> <p>the 2 second rule may be bullshit in real driving conditions, but when the shit hits .... the fault is still going to be yours ....</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Yup, sadly. Law is the law.</p> Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:49:31 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8267011 bizzkit0102 http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>i was involved in a similar accident before too ... some fellow kissed my car's ass ....&nbsp;</p> <p>no damage to mine, but one side of his bumper fell off ...&nbsp;</p> <p>fellow was pissed, even though he banged into my ass .... I told him to stick it up his own ass ... cos the insurers, and the TP, will both tell you ....</p> <p>if you cannot break in time, you were probably travelling too fast and/or following too closely ....</p> <p>the 2 second rule may be bullshit in real driving conditions, but when the shit hits .... the fault is still going to be yours ....</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:38:02 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8267000 Fatum http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>Well, if one lets too many cars cut in front of him, at least in lane 1, imagine the car travelling behind trying to filter left trying to exit the expressway. Without sufficient speed, filtering left is going to be a problem and this can lead to lane 2 or 3&nbsp;cars having to jam brake etc to allow the lane 1 car to filter in. I just feel following the 2 second rule as though it is a religion&nbsp;may be&nbsp;inconsiderate to other drivers on expressways.</p> <p>I agree, not much time can be saved, but imagine being the car behind the fella in front that keeps allowing cars to cut his lane, especially when in lane 1. It gets quite infuriating at times, even if one has a lot of time to spare. Seriously, at least as far as I feel.</p> <p>Yah sadly when we bang into someone's ass it is unfortunately our fault in the eyes of the law, no matter whether if the&nbsp;driver in front was actually in the wrong in reality or not. I understand that, thats why I paid the taxi uncle. However, I am just saying sometimes, in fact most of the time, it is not the total fault of the driver that banged and perhaps the person in front that braked abruptly needs to take a portion of the blame as well.</p> <p>On a sidenote, does anyone actually count 1000, 2000 while driving? It seems like some final theory BS. Hey face it lah, most of the stuff you learned for final theory would sound like BS in reality lah.</p> Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:28:29 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8266986 bizzkit0102 http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>How much time can you be delayed to be honest? How many people have seriously been affected so much by keeping to the 2 second rule or by letting a few cars cut in front of you? If it is a jam or relatively heavy traffic, how fast can you go anyway...geez whats the issue with letting a few cars cut in front of you.</p> <p>as potmynutsy's comments...everyone will be safe but what time will you reach the destination...are you suggesting then its more important to reach your destination fast than the safety of everyone? Seriously in Singapore, last time I work in Boon Lay and I stay in Simei. EVery morning, the jam at PIE is notorious. But how long would the journey take me? 30-45 minutes depending on the jam. Now I work in Toa Payoh, there still is jams but it can still will only take me 15-30 minutes. How long can travelling be? Will really keeping to the 2 second rule delay your travel that much?</p> <p>Having said those things, I am not saying I am an angel on the road. I do speed sometimes. I do cut in and out sometimes. I do follow closely sometimes. But I do dare to say most of the times I follow the 2 second rule. At the end of day, when I bang into somebody's ass, I can explain until the cows come home and blame the other party's incompetence, we will still be the one paying for it and maybe the one who is incompetent is the one who cannot understand the rationale behind the 2 second rule.</p> Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:04:00 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8266685 gasband http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>yeah, like in cte, if every1 really keep to the 2 second rule, yes, every1 will be safe. but what time will u reach ur destination? but also dont so kua zhang tail gate or go very near.</p> Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:36:45 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8265993 popmynutsy http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by gasband:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>unfortuntely, even if someone do an e-brake on the highway and you followed at least the 2 second rule, you would have been safe. I try my best to do that although of cos sometimes, i also singaporean driver, try to follow so close haha.... but most of the times i really keep at least a 2-3 second rule though i have been driving for 9 years and i change good brake pads and whatever they say improves your braking performance lah...but i still trust the best way is to keep 2-3 seconds distance. In Army, I went through Defensive Driving and the only rule i remember:</p> <p>"ALWAYS EXPECT PEOPLE TO MAKE MISTAKES"</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Well the 2 second rule is fine if there is light traffic. In a situation of relatively heavy traffic, imagine if you keep too much distance between yourself and the car in front, especially in lane 1, and therefore allow too many cars to cut in front of you, imagine how the driver behind feels. He/she sure have some anger towards you for allow so many cars to cut your path and thus slowing down the travel time. It'll be quite inconsiderate on your part as well. I am sure many of us have faced such a scenario before...</p> Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:21:32 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8265085 bizzkit0102 http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>unfortuntely, even if someone do an e-brake on the highway and you followed at least the 2 second rule, you would have been safe. I try my best to do that although of cos sometimes, i also singaporean driver, try to follow so close haha.... but most of the times i really keep at least a 2-3 second rule though i have been driving for 9 years and i change good brake pads and whatever they say improves your braking performance lah...but i still trust the best way is to keep 2-3 seconds distance. In Army, I went through Defensive Driving and the only rule i remember:</p> <p>"ALWAYS EXPECT PEOPLE TO MAKE MISTAKES"</p> Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:13:52 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8264951 gasband http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>Sometimes it is really quite irritating when people in front brake a lot earlier than anticipated, especially on expressway. Especially taxis. Some of them brake so early that the space in front of them can park 2 cars.</p> <p>I also knocked the ass of a taxi before on the PIE. Luckily I braked hard enough so the damage was minor and settled it on the spot with some $ and I didn't have to replace my bumper. Of course there were a few scratches on it but not very visible from afar.</p> <p>I asked the taxi uncle on the spot why the hell he brake so suddenly and in his defence he said there was an accident right in front. I could see the accident also but it was 3-4 car lengths away. We even had space to move forward onto the chevrons at the PIE (Tuas) Dunearn Road (the infamous exit on lane one) exit there to thrash things out.</p> <p>I was really pissed with that fella on that day and somehow I felt he was trying to pull a fast one on me. After all, taxi fares now so ex nobody wanna take taxi, their income drop. He also wouldn't want to go to a workshop as it would mean less&nbsp;passengers for him during that day.</p> <p>Sadly, in driving, once you knock somebody, you are at the disadvantage. It is one of the only few things in life when you are to blame for the ineptness of another person sometimes.</p> Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:46:34 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8264920 bizzkit0102 http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>so how arh? they all claimed from you arh?</p> Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:47:56 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8264233 alwaysdisturbed http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>as long as u r the last car.. u r the ultimate loser..</p> <p>u have to pay everyone the damages.. irregardless of who jam brakes whatsoever....</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 03:13:05 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8074942 n0x http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>they all claimed against me.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>but cars infront of me jammed brake</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>can fight not</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 01:24:15 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8074840 pyjamasgirl http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by pyjamasgirl:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>sorry just back from a trip.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>yeah actually was comtemplating bet total loss n repair fee.</p> <p>i knw close to 10k repair is as gd as the car is almost gone.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>but i dont knw how much ntuc will compensate me on the total loss. thats y i dont dare to ask for total loss. plus i need to drive for a living. cant afford to wait for loan, wait for car again.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>the rest of cars suffered minor damages.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>i hope my car will still b as gd la.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>oh ok....may i ask who is responsible for the damages to the other vehicles?</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 01:09:52 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8074814 alwaysdisturbed http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>sorry just back from a trip.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>yeah actually was comtemplating bet total loss n repair fee.</p> <p>i knw close to 10k repair is as gd as the car is almost gone.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>but i dont knw how much ntuc will compensate me on the total loss. thats y i dont dare to ask for total loss. plus i need to drive for a living. cant afford to wait for loan, wait for car again.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>the rest of cars suffered minor damages.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>i hope my car will still b as gd la.</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 23:42:25 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8074621 pyjamasgirl http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571 <p>what about the other cars?</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 15:21:47 +0800 sgforums.com:2:316571:8073526 alwaysdisturbed http://sgforums.com/forums/2/topics/316571