Braking/Slowing down/Stopping with Manual Cars

• Gosu.

  25 Jun 08, 12:05

  Hey,

  Studying up for my advanced theory but I'm not too sure how to go about stopping, say you're like 15metres away from the traffic light what do you do?

  Engine brake?(How does this work), change-down? or just step on the brake?

   

  Help is appreciated

• gabrielhrteo

  25 Jun 08, 12:38

  Engine break(down gear) + normal breaking.

• hao_hao

  25 Jun 08, 16:04

  E Brake !!!!

• martin_lim85

  25 Jun 08, 16:07

  use intermitted braking, then remember to step on crutch pedal

• Gosu.

  25 Jun 08, 17:29

  Don't understand how to do an engine break though, passed my basic but advanced was only 3 days away from basic so I haven't booked any lessons..

• zerocool85

  25 Jun 08, 19:36

  u will learn all these in practical la..

  anyway.. u dont have to do intermitent braking because it is uncomfortable and ure not going at a high speed.

  upon approaching the traffic light, gently depress the brake pedal, clutch in and switch from gear 4 to gear 3.. den to gear 2.. and once u come to a complete stop, shift it into neutral, adjust ur leg again to be comfortable and shift in to gear 1, ready for acceleration again.. oh ya, remember to pull handbrake when u fully come to a halt..

• martin_lim85

  25 Jun 08, 19:40

  Originally posted by Gosu.:

  Don't understand how to do an engine break though, passed my basic but advanced was only 3 days away from basic so I haven't booked any lessons..

  
  have u started driving yet?

• balance_else_complacent

  26 Jun 08, 01:09

  Originally posted by martin_lim85:

  use intermitted braking, then remember to step on crutch pedal

  
  For auto cars, if neutral gear is engaged before the car stops completely, would it cause stress on the 'rod' that the transmission is turning , resulting in fracture (in the long run) of this rod?

  How true do you experts think this rumour is?

   

   

• n0x

  26 Jun 08, 01:34

  Originally posted by martin_lim85:

  use intermitted braking, then remember to step on crutch pedal

  
  no need intermitten breaking... nowadays most cars equipped with ABS....

  and its dangerous to disengage the clutch and let it free wheel unless until the car is very slow....

   

• n0x

  26 Jun 08, 01:36

  Originally posted by balance_else_complacent:

  
  For auto cars, if neutral gear is engaged before the car stops completely, would it cause stress on the 'rod' that the transmission is turning , resulting in fracture (in the long run) of this rod?

  How true do you experts think this rumour is?

   

   

  which 'rod' are u talking about??

  crank shaft?? prop shaft ( in rwd cars)??? wheel axle?? differential?? connecting rods in the engine??

• n0x

  26 Jun 08, 01:38

  Originally posted by zerocool85:

  u will learn all these in practical la..

  anyway.. u dont have to do intermitent braking because it is uncomfortable and ure not going at a high speed.

  upon approaching the traffic light, gently depress the brake pedal, clutch in and switch from gear 4 to gear 3.. den to gear 2.. and once u come to a complete stop, shift it into neutral, adjust ur leg again to be comfortable and shift in to gear 1, ready for acceleration again.. oh ya, remember to pull handbrake when u fully come to a halt..

  should be clutch in.. engage from 4 to 3... clutch out ... and then clutch in engage from 3 to 2.. then clutch out... if not clutch in all the way no point.. LOL

• Gosu.

  26 Jun 08, 10:00

  Originally posted by n0x:

  should be clutch in.. engage from 4 to 3... clutch out ... and then clutch in engage from 3 to 2.. then clutch out... if not clutch in all the way no point.. LOL

  
  Ya that's what I thought.

  Originally posted by martin_lim85:

  
  have u started driving yet?

  
  I passed my BTT already, taking my FTT tomorrow and making my PDL too(couldn't make on the day I passed my BTT because I didn't have glasses)

  Having booked my driving lessons like I said above because my BTT and FTT was only 3 days apart so I figured I'd take both first and since my PDL isn't made I might as well make it tomorrow and then book my lessons.

  Wouldn't it take damn long to change down? 4 - 3 - 2 - 1? I see taxi drivers just intermittent brake then from gear 4, depress clutch, switch to gear 1.

• Gosu.

  26 Jun 08, 10:02

  What's an engine break?! Advanced theory book says it's the best way to break so it doesn't wear off your break lining too.

   

  Though my sister says that you don't/hardly use it/not tested. But good if I know.

• sbst275

  26 Jun 08, 10:03

  I'll use engine brake + braking

  dun forget to clutch in just bef e engine goes dead

  unless it's a dist away and you know traffic light is red, I'll go kosong and control on braking liao... or too near but not able to clear junction in time, just brake le

• Gosu.

  26 Jun 08, 10:17

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  I'll use engine brake + braking

  dun forget to clutch in just bef e engine goes dead

  unless it's a dist away and you know traffic light is red, I'll go kosong and control on braking liao... or too near but not able to clear junction in time, just brake le

  
  Hey, do you mind explaining in technical terms what you mean? I kinda don't understand in layman terms(how strange). What's kosong? and control on braking? By using brake pedal?

   

  Firstly, can anyone explain how to perform an engine brake?

• sbst275

  26 Jun 08, 10:20

  Originally posted by Gosu.:

  
  Hey, do you mind explaining in technical terms what you mean? I kinda don't understand in layman terms(how strange). What's kosong? and control on braking? By using brake pedal?

   

  Firstly, can anyone explain how to perform an engine brake?

  
  kosong = zero... meaning goes neutral... for tis just concentrate on braking to a halt safely. only applicable if it's a long distance away and traffic light is red

  yeah la, brake pedal then?

  engine brake is to reduce your gear i.e. from 4th to 3rd, 3rd to 2nd gear... control your speed and apply your clutch to reduce gear and slowly release clutch to have e engine brake effect

• mamamamama

  26 Jun 08, 10:42

  engine brake = letting the engine brake by itself, literally.

  engine brake automatically kicks in when you dont depress the accelerator.

   

  say you're on 4th gear. slightly depress the brake pedal (to prevent free wheeling) then change down to 3rd gear. Once you're on 3rd gear, change down to 2nd gear then release your foot from the brake pedal. On 2nd gear is where the engine brake works its best. Just let the vehicle cut off its speed slowly. When approaching to a stop, clutch in and brake.

• sbst275

  26 Jun 08, 10:45

  if those do take e new SBS single decks, can feel how strong is e engine brake... lol

  btw, it's 6 gear automatic gearbox

• Gosu.

  26 Jun 08, 10:47

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  
  kosong = zero... meaning goes neutral... for tis just concentrate on braking to a halt safely. only applicable if it's a long distance away and traffic light is red

  yeah la, brake pedal then?

  engine brake is to reduce your gear i.e. from 4th to 3rd, 3rd to 2nd gear... control your speed and apply your clutch to reduce gear and slowly release clutch to have e engine brake effect

  Thumbs up, that explains everything I am curious about.

  OKAY, test is tomorrow, wish me luck,

  anyone has any tips; like what I should pay particular attention about/difficult questions?

  Thanks for all the help guys.

• sbst275

  26 Jun 08, 10:48

  Originally posted by Gosu.:

  Thumbs up, that explains everything I am curious about.

  OKAY, test is tomorrow, wish me luck,

  anyone has any tips; like what I should pay particular attention about/difficult questions?

  Thanks for all the help guys.

  
  but thing is tis.. going kosong is after you get your license.... dun ever do this kind of thing bef getting your license

• Gosu.

  26 Jun 08, 10:52

  Originally posted by mamamamama:

  engine brake = letting the engine brake by itself, literally.

  engine brake automatically kicks in when you dont depress the accelerator.

   

  say you're on 4th gear. slightly depress the brake pedal (to prevent free wheeling) then change down to 3rd gear. Once you're on 3rd gear, change down to 2nd gear then release your foot from the brake pedal. On 2nd gear is where the engine brake works its best. Just let the vehicle cut off its speed slowly. When approaching to a stop, clutch in and brake.

  
  great post. thanks. understood further and how to apply it.

• Gosu.

  26 Jun 08, 10:53

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  
  but thing is tis.. going kosong is after you get your license.... dun ever do this kind of thing bef getting your license

  
  wah lan, almost made me think it's a advanced method, thanks. lol.

• mamamamama

  26 Jun 08, 11:06

  i was like you before i learnt to drive too, started forming theories inside my head of different "how to". coz i was thinking that i better familiarize and prepare myself before the actual lessons.

   

  turns out that after i started my lessons, those silly theories that i formed are useless. just go for the lessons and you'll natually understand everything.

• Gosu.

  26 Jun 08, 11:12

  Originally posted by mamamamama:

  i was like you before i learnt to drive too, started forming theories inside my head of different "how to". coz i was thinking that i better familiarize and prepare myself before the actual lessons.

   

  turns out that after i started my lessons, those silly theories that i formed are useless. just go for the lessons and you'll natually understand everything.

  
  Alright, just that my brain doesn't really work on memory when it comes to these things, I remember better by understanding each function and by relating them by how they compliment each other. Thus one reminds me of the other and vice. versa.

• n0x

  26 Jun 08, 12:13

  Originally posted by mamamamama:

  engine brake = letting the engine brake by itself, literally.

  engine brake automatically kicks in when you dont depress the accelerator.

   

  say you're on 4th gear. slightly depress the brake pedal (to prevent free wheeling) then change down to 3rd gear. Once you're on 3rd gear, change down to 2nd gear then release your foot from the brake pedal. On 2nd gear is where the engine brake works its best. Just let the vehicle cut off its speed slowly. When approaching to a stop, clutch in and brake.

  i think the theory you posted here is entirely wrong..

  read up more b4 posting...