http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 en-US 60 <p>Before talking about investment, we all need to know what is intrinsic value, P/E ratio, P/B ratio, trading volume, bid and ask price and so on....</p> <p>Not knowing how a company works will eventually spell your doom... lucky i revert my decision to buy STI ETF today.</p> Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:23:35 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:8275231 Uncertain http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>o.k lets cut the bullshit.</p> <p>I have SGD 15K. And i want to know, IF i decide to give Andrew this money, whats he gonna do with it. Any gurantees ? Will we come up with some kind of reciprocity in this process ? Are you the real deal is all i wanna know.</p> <p>And please keep asinine comments to yourself thanks.</p> <p>This is a serious question. <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Blue/sorry.png" alt= "sorry.png" /> Seriousness emoticon not added to attenuate the seriousness of this question.</p> Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:53:52 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:8273809 BadzMaro http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>Andrew, I bet your investment&nbsp;must be bleeding profusely now huh?</p> Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:23:33 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:8273706 O o O http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>The silenced from the idiots, my guess is that they are in a coma from being repeatedly slapped by the market while I am looking at my profits increase...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><br /> <img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>folks i know who made good money are generally coy about their gains......i guess you are `just looking' at your profits....</p> Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:24:38 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:8199840 redDUST http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>&nbsp;you have a chance to become one....</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>become what......?</p> Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:22:43 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:8199838 redDUST http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>So mr andrew, how is your stock position so far? Making loads of money?</p> Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:18:24 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:8199828 £ Ĭ €ڰ http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>It is a volatile time now indeed.... who knows what will happen, the market has oppose all logic and shot up!!! Sitting on the fence now....</p> Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:28:48 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:8030646 whiskers http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>The silenced from the idiots, my guess is that they are in a coma from being repeatedly slapped by the market while I am looking at my profits increase...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><br /> <img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" /></p> Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:43:51 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:8018326 AndrewPKYap http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>wow I have not looked at this thread for a while and I did not know so many idiots appeared.... <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>When I said the market was coming down and even as it was crashing, so many idiots disagreed with me and were slapped repeatedly by the markets on my behalf...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I said to start thinking of investing... more idiots come along try to act smart, and the market again, slapped their idiotic faces on my behalf....</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>ST Index.... yesterday and today...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><img src= "http://www.casinogamblingprevention.com-a.googlepages.com/sti20080325-fivedayschart.png" alt= "The image &amp;ldquo;http://www.casinogamblingprevention.com-a.googlepages.com/sti20080325-fivedayschart.png&amp;rdquo; cannot be displayed, because it contains errors." /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Up almost 250 points, almost 10% in two days!!!!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>You want to be a guru like me, you must buy and read my book and maybe, you have a chance to become one....</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:11:29 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7961923 AndrewPKYap http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>andrew..what is the latest update? <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/biggrin.png" alt= "biggrin.png" /></p> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:00:54 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7940450 TCH05 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Jamie Zawinski:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>will andrewpkyap be jailed?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> haha...possible....&nbsp;especially when the&nbsp;authority already know his real&nbsp;name, profile, how he looks like and which companies he was working for.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:01:28 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7929356 TCH05 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>will andrewpkyap be jailed?</p> Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:26:50 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7927052 Jamie Zawinski http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>imo, definitely the market hasn't bottom out.</p> <p>so called long term investors don't time their buy and sell. they buy when they see a distinct opening in a company they like. a bear market helps but it is not a major determinant factor that influence their decision.</p> <p>they have holding power,&nbsp;money invested are spare&nbsp;cash and they accumulate the stock holding&nbsp;when they see an opportunity.</p> <p>long term investors also sell, they don't hold forever. it is just that the law of averages help them post a profit when they sell.</p> Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:57:57 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7917907 redDUST http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>it is always easy to buy but hard to sell for a good price.invest in long term is good but you have temptation to sell also.......</p> Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:57:36 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7917454 guaiboiboi http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>I guess it is only fair that after warning people of the impending crash and now that the crash happened as predicted, I should also say that the time has come to start thinking of investing in the stock market.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><br /> <img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "icon_lol.gif" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Long term investment hor... and don't borrow money to buy.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>DJ, STI are all below the level they were in Jan08, and US$ is at its historical&nbsp;low against all major&nbsp;currencies&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><img src="/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/biggrin.png" alt= "biggrin.png" /></p> Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:00:52 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7914889 TCH05 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>sigh</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>dodge again.</p> <p>It's an innocent question. Are you still living in a HDB? Do you own a car? How well off are you? Is your current networth indicative of an expert in the markets?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>And for the last time. It's already been carried out. Things take time when they are real, not imaginary.</p> Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:44:52 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7841760 deathbait http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by weewee:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>now is indeed a good time to buy shares. It is just my own opinion anyway.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>There is no need to be in a hurry even though it is a good time. You can pick and choose and wait for a good price. That is what investment is all about. You get out when it is high (and the situation looks bad, like last year) and wait for it to come down. You only buy companies you can trust (blue chips) and you only trade the big economic cycles (in terms of years).</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>See this opinion piece (that liar Chin Eng calls it a letter to the press) I wrote for Today Newspaper.</p> <p><a href= "http://www.casinogamblingprevention.com/Whosgoingtotakecreditforgamblersloss.pdf" rel="nofollow"><br /></a></p> <p><a href= "http://www.casinogamblingprevention.com/Whosgoingtotakecreditforgamblersloss.pdf" rel= "nofollow">http://www.casinogamblingprevention.com/Whosgoingtotakecreditforgamblersloss.pdf</a></p> Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:13:17 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7841730 AndrewPKYap http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by deathbait:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>worst example ever.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Anyway, the resolution of this matter lies in the function of the investor. If he's a long term investor buying into a company via shares because he believes in the future of the company, there is no difference in his role and that of a man who starts a business.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Andrew however is referring to the investor(or speculator) who buys shares with the intention of selling them for a profit. I find it highly amusing because Andrew has always flamed speculators. Anyway, speculators obviously hold no loyalty to the company and will dump shares high to buy back low.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Still, more than a few people have lost their shirt on such strategies based on market timing. Andrew, you're still living in HDB right?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Delusional idiot. So when are you carrying out your insane threats against me?</p> Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:04:45 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7841717 AndrewPKYap http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>now is indeed a good time to buy shares. It is just my own opinion anyway.</p> Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:03:01 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7841530 weewee http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>worst example ever.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Anyway, the resolution of this matter lies in the function of the investor. If he's a long term investor buying into a company via shares because he believes in the future of the company, there is no difference in his role and that of a man who starts a business.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Andrew however is referring to the investor(or speculator) who buys shares with the intention of selling them for a profit. I find it highly amusing because Andrew has always flamed speculators. Anyway, speculators obviously hold no loyalty to the company and will dump shares high to buy back low.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Still, more than a few people have lost their shirt on such strategies based on market timing. Andrew, you're still living in HDB right?</p> Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:52:58 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7841514 deathbait http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>Should the business close down just because there is a recession? No.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Should investors sell their shares when they see a downturn in the business? Yes.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Are minority shares holders the same as majority share holders? No?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Just because there are some similarities between business owners and investors, does it mean that they are the same thing? No. Otherwise wives would the the same as prostitutes because there are some similarities, like they are bith women, for example.&nbsp; <img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt= "icon_rolleyes.gif" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:33:21 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7841328 AndrewPKYap http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>In both instances, you own the business.&nbsp; If you are an investor, you own the business.&nbsp; However, if you treat stocks/shares as&nbsp;trading items, then we are on different boats.&nbsp; Then there is no need to discuss anymore.</p> Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:15:08 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7841290 sillyme http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>How is starting a business the same as buying and selling stocks and shares?&nbsp; <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt= "icon_rolleyes.gif" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:07:35 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7841134 AndrewPKYap http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>So what APKY is trying to say is that you should start a business, and when the time is difficult, sell and fold it. Wait for another day.</p> Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:28:10 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7840997 sillyme http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953 <p>you have yet to witness the ultimate crash that will signal the arrival of the recession. be prepared for the&nbsp;black monday in september 2009.</p> Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:50:56 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2092:305953:7840917 Jamie Zawinski http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2092/topics/305953