How low can you go? replied by NoRiceBoys @ Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:21:23 +0800

NoRiceBoys — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:21:23 +0800

I always thought these army survival courses were totally pointless and completely stupid. (a reflection of the people up there who plan these?)

Teaching you how to kill a chicken, frog, iguana, etc. The question is, can you find it and catch it first? If you can't even catch the animal in a survival situation how the heck you going to need to kill it?

Wouldn't living on easily obtainable foods like fruits (bananas, coconuts, banana shoots, buah cherry, papaya, etc), root tubers (tapioca) and insects be a more highly probable way for the normal soldier to survive?

And when you're really in a survival situation and you're hungry enough, I don't think anyone will have any problems killing anything. I'll just rip it in two if I need to, which makes these courses totally pointless. I won't need to learn how to kill a chicken when I'm hungry. I'll just bash it's skull with a rock till it's dead and throw it on the fire.

Originally posted by eagle:

Erm... in army, during the POW training course, almost everyone could kill a chicken... The only one who took a bit longer was because he forgot to twist the neck...

The technique:
hold the chicken sitting down, then draw a few straight lines in front of it. The chicken will fall asleep. Then twist the neck and pull it hard, and the head will come off. The body will continue to struggle a bit, so hold it down till it stop

We also learned how to kill a frog. First, use one hand to grab hold of the legs, so that it cannot jump. Then smash the head hard on the table a few times to kill it. Then after that turn it over, and deskin it, starting from the abdomen.

Lastly, we were also shown how to kill an iguana for food, although we didn't try. Something like hanging it by the neck, then slitting it to let the blood flow... till it died...

How low can you go? replied by Short Ninja @ Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:11:00 +0800

Short Ninja — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:11:00 +0800

Originally posted by the.owl:

eh, asking me to harm an innocent animal is different from asking me to harm an asshole who is attacking me.

Killing an animal for food should be a natural survival instinct as we are after all at the top of the food chain.The survival course gives you the chance to take the life of an animal which is the closest you can get to taking the life of one of your own.

How low can you go? replied by the.owl @ Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:33:36 +0800

the.owl — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:33:36 +0800

Originally posted by eastpaw:

I agree.

It is easy to say, "Oh, I would so totally rip his gonads off!" But in truth few people would be able to do it in real life.

Edit: This post was in reply to Short Ninja's second.

eh, asking me to harm an innocent animal is different from asking me to harm an asshole who is attacking me.

How low can you go? replied by eagle @ Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:29:06 +0800

eagle — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:29:06 +0800

Originally posted by stellazio:

what unit were u in?

how come got pow training course?

Brigade Recce

How low can you go? replied by stellazio @ Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:26:30 +0800

stellazio — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:26:30 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

I didn't go for jcc. it is POW training course... I was in the batch just before the batch that killed the 1st sgt :'(

what unit were u in?

how come got pow training course?

How low can you go? replied by eagle @ Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:11:52 +0800

eagle — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:11:52 +0800

Originally posted by stellazio:

did they teach you this for jcc?

I didn't go for jcc. it is POW training course... I was in the batch just before the batch that killed the 1st sgt :'(

How low can you go? replied by stellazio @ Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:02:27 +0800

stellazio — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:02:27 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

Erm... in army, during the POW training course, almost everyone could kill a chicken... The only one who took a bit longer was because he forgot to twist the neck...

The technique:
hold the chicken sitting down, then draw a few straight lines in front of it. The chicken will fall asleep. Then twist the neck and pull it hard, and the head will come off. The body will continue to struggle a bit, so hold it down till it stop

We also learned how to kill a frog. First, use one hand to grab hold of the legs, so that it cannot jump. Then smash the head hard on the table a few times to kill it. Then after that turn it over, and deskin it, starting from the abdomen.

Lastly, we were also shown how to kill an iguana for food, although we didn't try. Something like hanging it by the neck, then slitting it to let the blood flow... till it died...

did they teach you this for jcc?

How low can you go? replied by eastpaw @ Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:00:27 +0800

eastpaw — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:00:27 +0800

I agree.

It is easy to say, "Oh, I would so totally rip his gonads off!" But in truth few people would be able to do it in real life.

Edit: This post was in reply to Short Ninja's second.

How low can you go? replied by eagle @ Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:58:03 +0800

eagle — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:58:03 +0800

Originally posted by Short Ninja:

But seriously most people have no killing instincts.Imagine me conducting a survival course and giving you 30 long seconds to kill a chicken.I doubt you could do it.Not because you are also a bird but because most people dont have the animal in them.

Erm... in army, during the POW training course, almost everyone could kill a chicken... The only one who took a bit longer was because he forgot to twist the neck...

The technique:
hold the chicken sitting down, then draw a few straight lines in front of it. The chicken will fall asleep. Then twist the neck and pull it hard, and the head will come off. The body will continue to struggle a bit, so hold it down till it stop

We also learned how to kill a frog. First, use one hand to grab hold of the legs, so that it cannot jump. Then smash the head hard on the table a few times to kill it. Then after that turn it over, and deskin it, starting from the abdomen.

Lastly, we were also shown how to kill an iguana for food, although we didn't try. Something like hanging it by the neck, then slitting it to let the blood flow... till it died...

How low can you go? replied by Virus92 @ Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:53:19 +0800

Virus92 — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:53:19 +0800

Tts true. I think only a sick or really desperate person wud do those things.

How low can you go? replied by Short Ninja @ Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:22:08 +0800

Short Ninja — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:22:08 +0800

Originally posted by the.owl:

wtf, if my life is in danger then I wont care about whether the person who is attacking me will have children or not.

But seriously most people have no killing instincts.Imagine me conducting a survival course and giving you 30 long seconds to kill a chicken.I doubt you could do it.Not because you are also a bird but because most people dont have the animal in them.

How low can you go? replied by the.owl @ Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:18:35 +0800

the.owl — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:18:35 +0800

wtf, if my life is in danger then I wont care about whether the person who is attacking me will have children or not.

How low can you go? replied by Short Ninja @ Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:59:00 +0800

Short Ninja — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:59:00 +0800

Any dirty fighters in here? I am not talking about what goes on in the ring more like street brawling & bar fighting.Are you able to kick groins and bite off someone’s face on impulse.How animal can you be when you are being physically threatened by a bigger/stronger person?

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