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  • PwnYou's Avatar
    107 posts since Sep '07
    • My internet has been really slow lately, and i suspect there are people tapping on my connection! Mad

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    1,311 posts since Nov '06
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    3,843 posts since Feb '04
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    ndmmxiaomayi's Avatar
    52,776 posts since Aug '05
    • Your nick suits you. Laughing

      Back to topic, here's how to check:

      1. Log in to your router. Don't know address, either refer to manual or do the following:

      a. Start > Run, type in cmd and press Enter

      b. Type in ipconfig /all and press Enter

      c. You will see a Default Gateway address. Type in this address into your web browser (most common is Internet Explorer)

      d. Log in when prompted

      2. Browse around the settings, you will find one section called DHCP client list or something similar

      3. Here's mine:

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    Jason's Avatar
    784 posts since Oct '99
    • Not too sure about DHCP clients list as it is not necessary for clients to use DHCP.

      Maybe if you can find something like 'Wireless Clients List'...?

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    19,251 posts since Sep '04
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    52,776 posts since Aug '05
    • Originally posted by Jason:
      Not too sure about DHCP clients list as it is not necessary for clients to use DHCP.

      Maybe if you can find something like 'Wireless Clients List'...?

      Lazy humans use DHCP. I'm one of them. Laughing

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  • abao's Avatar
    2,435 posts since Jul '05
    • near my house got i unsecured router. i managed to tap, access the router settings and delete my own mac address, at the same time i looked at the names of the owner's computers before i disconnected.

      then i did a yellow pages search and found their address......

      that said i didnt do any harm to them nor leech from their router...

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  • WinnieThePooh's Avatar
    861 posts since May '06
    • Originally posted by abao:
      near my house got i unsecured router. i managed to tap, access the router settings and delete my own mac address, at the same time i looked at the names of the owner's computers before i disconnected.

      then i did a yellow pages search and found their address......

      that said i didnt do any harm to them nor leech from their router...

      But thats still illegal.

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    52,776 posts since Aug '05
    • Originally posted by Phaze:
      erm... isn't the simplest solution just to enable encryption?

      It can be broken.

  • Phaze's Avatar
    995 posts since Jun '07
    • Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:
      It can be broken.

      The probability of that happening is very low.

      If he's worried about people tapping into his connection, most likely it's open.

      If it is encrypted, even with just WEP, you're pretty safe. The chance that someone with the skill and desire to crack the encryption, would come along, is low.

      If you really care about wireless security. use WPA2 with AES. No one can crack that in any reasonable amount of time.

      It makes more sense to enable encryption than to constantly check if there are unauthorized users on your network.

      Anyway, I suspect the problem is more likely to be with the ISP or wireless interference. I've been experiencing very slow speeds on Starhub.

      To check for interference, check what's the signal to noise ration of your wireless connection. If you wireless client doesn't give you this info, download netstumbler and use that.

      Edited by Phaze 16 Nov `07, 11:42AM
  • Fire Star's Avatar
    272 posts since Aug '06
    • Talking about using linux for cain and abel and airsnort, that would be a different matter! Gd luck.

  • Phaze's Avatar
    995 posts since Jun '07
    • Originally posted by Fire Star:
      Talking about using linux for cain and abel and airsnort, that would be a different matter! Gd luck.

      Cain and Abel is windows only. Airsnort is 'multiplatform' though better on linux.

      There's no need to use either of those tools in this case though.

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    kenn3th's Avatar
    13,427 posts since Nov '06
    • Use Mac filter.

      On the Outside it looks like ur connection is unsecured, but on the inside, no matter how u connect outside using an unknown wireless device, it will nvr work Laughing

  • Phaze's Avatar
    995 posts since Jun '07
    • Originally posted by kenn3th:
      Use Mac filter.

      On the Outside it looks like ur connection is unsecured, but on the inside, no matter how u connect outside using an unknown wireless device, it will nvr work Laughing

      Encryption is still better.

      MAC filtering is easier to bypass than even basic WEP.

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    52,776 posts since Aug '05
    • Originally posted by Phaze:
      The probability of that happening is very low.

      If he's worried about people tapping into his connection, most likely it's open.

      If it is encrypted, even with just WEP, you're pretty safe. The chance that someone with the skill and desire to crack the encryption, would come along, is low.

      If you really care about wireless security. use WPA2 with AES. No one can crack that in any reasonable amount of time.

      It makes more sense to enable encryption than to constantly check if there are unauthorized users on your network.

      Anyway, I suspect the problem is more likely to be with the ISP or wireless interference. I've been experiencing very slow speeds on Starhub.

      To check for interference, check what's the signal to noise ration of your wireless connection. If you wireless client doesn't give you this info, download netstumbler and use that.

      WEP is reasonably easy to crack even for script kiddies.

  • Phaze's Avatar
    995 posts since Jun '07
    • The six dumbest ways to secure a wireless LAN by George Ou

      http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43

      The only place where I disagree with him slightly is the part where he says WEP is useless. Although WEP is relatively easy to crack, I still think for the most part, nobody would bother to crack the typical home user.

      The only reason to use WEP is if your wireless client doesn't support WPA.

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    52,776 posts since Aug '05
    • Originally posted by Fire Star:
      Talking about using linux for cain and abel and airsnort, that would be a different matter! Gd luck.

      There's no Cain and Abel for Linux as far as I'm aware of. Linux has other tools to crack wireless networks, which you would find better than Windows. Mr. Green

      As a start, download the Backtrack CD and play around with it.

  • Phaze's Avatar
    995 posts since Jun '07
    • Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:
      WEP is reasonably easy to crack even for script kiddies.

      Yes but why would anyone use WEP? If you are going to enable encryption use WPA.

      I'm just saying that WEP is better than leaving your wireless open or using mac-filtering. But using WEP when you have WPA is like choosing a lousy cheap lock when you have a big strong lock available to you.

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