Networking gurus pls help me out here with my current concerns as i'm already on mio and have no way of turning back the clock so that i can be on a normal singnet plan once again.

1) would i be able to use back my smc 7904wbra2 barricade broadband router which i'v ebeen using for so long all e while till this sick mio came along and gave m ea ****y 2wire? i need to reconfigure everything on the 2wire this sucks. and my smc gave me no probs whatsoever. bt was a breeze man.

2) if i unplug one of the 2 telephone cables from the back of my 2wire modem cum router would i still be able to use my residential home phoneline?

3) i've been reading alot and searching up on this mio in the forums over here and alot of pple said to put the 2wire in bridge mode so that i can use back my old router as a router and the 2 wire as a modem onli.. but will it really do any gd? eg. in bt ? is the smc able to hold up and withstand more concurrent connections than my 2wire? btw my 2wire model is hg2700...

4) if so, then would i need a crooss or str cable to connect frm my 2wire to my smc? and if lets say i have another smc switch as 4ports on my smc router isn't enuf for me. do i connect str or cross cable to my switch frm my smc?

5) what's the penalty for canceling my mio plan btw? actually wasn't me who signed up for it.. and for the ethernet cable than connects to my mio tv set top box from my 2wire what is it for? if dun connect can anot? still can watch tv as per normal? i'm on starhub cable.

6) lastly, what should i set my encapsulation type to? llc, vcmux? 0,100

really hope i get some answers and some1 who is knowledgeable in this area can help me out here... thanks in adv yea...

Im on mio and i can only help abit, im not a guru

BEfore continuing, did u sign up for MIO voice? cos from ur post, u said u are using 2wire 2700....isit 2700hgv2?

From wad i understand, i think the 2 phones in ur house is connected to the modem, which is the standard way, MIO actually uses sth like VoIP lar....they say until like beri powerfull liddat

u cannot ur phone if u plug it into the wall jack, nor can u use it if u plugged it out of the modem.......means if u 2wire 2700hgv2 is spoilt, u cannot use the phone....which also means u cannot call singnet when ur internet is down.....

dun follow the pic shown in gateway.2wire.net

HOW TO CONNECT SO ALL THE PHONES IN UR HOUSE COULD WORK:

1. From your wall jack, connect a microfilter
2. Connect a splitter[not microfilter, the one with P1 and P2 with a longer wire at the end to the 'telephone' jack at the back of ur modem, such that the 'telephone' port is being 'splitted' up to P1 and P2
3. Now, take out another splitter which is w/o a wire at the end, and connect it to P1
4. Now back to the wall jack, make sure the port with states DSL/H.. has a telephone line connected to ur modem which says 'phone line'
5. The trick: connect a phone line from the 'phone' port from the microfilter(that is plugged in ur wall jack), the connect the other end to P1 of the splitter u just connected( the one w/o a longer wire at the end)
6. now connect a telephone to another P2 of the spliteer without the longer wire at the end

your home phone should all be working

2) if i unplug one of the 2 telephone cables from the back of my 2wire modem cum router would i still be able to use my residential home phoneline?

Line 2 is never in use. So there's only one homeline, anyway.

3) i've been reading alot and searching up on this mio in the forums over here and alot of pple said to put the 2wire in bridge mode so that i can use back my old router as a router and the 2 wire as a modem onli.. but will it really do any gd? eg. in bt ? is the smc able to hold up and withstand more concurrent connections than my 2wire? btw my 2wire model is hg2700...

Put and you'll know. Yes, you need bridge mode but I junked my 1-year old wireless router. It's not like it's a N-router, what for keep it, unless u play torrent.

4) if so, then would i need a crooss or str cable to connect frm my 2wire to my smc? and if lets say i have another smc switch as 4ports on my smc router isn't enuf for me. do i connect str or cross cable to my switch frm my smc?

I believe nowadays straight or cross will also work regardless.

5) what's the penalty for canceling my mio plan btw? actually wasn't me who signed up for it.. and for the ethernet cable than connects to my mio tv set top box from my 2wire what is it for? if dun connect can anot? still can watch tv as per normal? i'm on starhub cable.

http://home.singtel.com/mio/mio_plan_faqs.html

mio tv set top box is like your starhub set top box, except that one runs through ADSL network and the other through starhub cable network. u can dun connect it and u can watch tv as per normal from ur starhub service.

Originally posted by elspeth:

Networking gurus pls help me out here with my current concerns as i'm already on mio and have no way of turning back the clock so that i can be on a normal singnet plan once again.

1) would i be able to use back my smc 7904wbra2 barricade broadband router which i'v ebeen using for so long all e while till this sick mio came along and gave m ea ****y 2wire? i need to reconfigure everything on the 2wire this sucks. and my smc gave me no probs whatsoever. bt was a breeze man.

2) if i unplug one of the 2 telephone cables from the back of my 2wire modem cum router would i still be able to use my residential home phoneline?

3) i've been reading alot and searching up on this mio in the forums over here and alot of pple said to put the 2wire in bridge mode so that i can use back my old router as a router and the 2 wire as a modem onli.. but will it really do any gd? eg. in bt ? is the smc able to hold up and withstand more concurrent connections than my 2wire? btw my 2wire model is hg2700...

4) if so, then would i need a crooss or str cable to connect frm my 2wire to my smc? and if lets say i have another smc switch as 4ports on my smc router isn't enuf for me. do i connect str or cross cable to my switch frm my smc?

5) what's the penalty for canceling my mio plan btw? actually wasn't me who signed up for it.. and for the ethernet cable than connects to my mio tv set top box from my 2wire what is it for? if dun connect can anot? still can watch tv as per normal? i'm on starhub cable.

6) lastly, what should i set my encapsulation type to? llc, vcmux? 0,100

really hope i get some answers and some1 who is knowledgeable in this area can help me out here... thanks in adv yea...

1. Can. I'm pretty sure some features of MIO most won't use except for surfing, so if you want, just switch back.

2. Of course you could, as long as it's the telephone socket telephone cable. How else can you use the phone after plugging out from the telephone socket?

But... since Singnet connections need the telephone cables to be plugged in in order to use the Net, by plugging out the telephone cable from the router, you probably won't have access to the Net.

3 & 4. I don't see why there's a need to use so many devices. Do you have a lot of money to spare? If so, please share.

5. Penalty - go to Singnet's website and download the PDF file to read the penalty.

You can cancel MioTV if you want. It's a free 6 months trial. No penalty for that if I'm not mistaken (the Singnet people tried too hard to convince me, haha)

The ethernet cable to the MioTV setup box is for you to stream the shows on TV and send it to your computer to watch...

6. VPI/VCI - 0/100 respectively

Originally posted by MyPillowTalks:

Im on mio and i can only help abit, im not a guru

BEfore continuing, did u sign up for MIO voice? cos from ur post, u said u are using 2wire 2700....isit 2700hgv2?

From wad i understand, i think the 2 phones in ur house is connected to the modem, which is the standard way, MIO actually uses sth like VoIP lar....they say until like beri powerfull liddat

u cannot ur phone if u plug it into the wall jack, nor can u use it if u plugged it out of the modem.......means if u 2wire 2700hgv2 is spoilt, u cannot use the phone....which also means u cannot call singnet when ur internet is down.....

dun follow the pic shown in gateway.2wire.net

HOW TO CONNECT SO ALL THE PHONES IN UR HOUSE COULD WORK:

1. From your wall jack, connect a microfilter
2. Connect a splitter[not microfilter, the one with P1 and P2 with a longer wire at the end to the 'telephone' jack at the back of ur modem, such that the 'telephone' port is being 'splitted' up to P1 and P2
3. Now, take out another splitter which is w/o a wire at the end, and connect it to P1
4. Now back to the wall jack, make sure the port with states DSL/H.. has a telephone line connected to ur modem which says 'phone line'
5. The trick: connect a phone line from the 'phone' port from the microfilter(that is plugged in ur wall jack), the connect the other end to P1 of the splitter u just connected( the one w/o a longer wire at the end)
6. now connect a telephone to another P2 of the spliteer without the longer wire at the end

your home phone should all be working

what exactly is mio voice?
and i dun have 2 phones connected to my modem. i onli have 1. and yes i'm using 2700hgv2...
u say the layout until i confused liao. can draw ? anyway i'm gona draw my layout and upload as a pic give u all see then maybe have a better idea.

Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:

1. Can. I'm pretty sure some features of MIO most won't use except for surfing, so if you want, just switch back.

2. Of course you could, as long as it's the telephone socket telephone cable. How else can you use the phone after plugging out from the telephone socket?

But... since Singnet connections need the telephone cables to be plugged in in order to use the Net, by plugging out the telephone cable from the router, you probably won't have access to the Net.

3 & 4. I don't see why there's a need to use so many devices. Do you have a lot of money to spare? If so, please share.

5. Penalty - go to Singnet's website and download the PDF file to read the penalty.

You can cancel MioTV if you want. It's a free 6 months trial. No penalty for that if I'm not mistaken (the Singnet people tried too hard to convince me, haha)

The ethernet cable to the MioTV setup box is for you to stream the shows on TV and send it to your computer to watch...

6. VPI/VCI - 0/100 respectively

damn sacars sia u
i'm askin whether i shld use the bridge mode and use my old smc barricade router (which i was using before the 2wire ) together with the 2 wire so that i can have a better setup and whether it'll be better for BT!! be coz it'll lighten the load on the 2wire as i think it'll not be able to handle the no. of multiple connections for bt. i don't know if it'll make a diff that 's why i'm coming here for advice.

Originally posted by ^tamago^:
[b]2) if i unplug one of the 2 telephone cables from the back of my 2wire modem cum router would i still be able to use my residential home phoneline?

Line 2 is never in use. So there's only one homeline, anyway.

3) i've been reading alot and searching up on this mio in the forums over here and alot of pple said to put the 2wire in bridge mode so that i can use back my old router as a router and the 2 wire as a modem onli.. but will it really do any gd? eg. in bt ? is the smc able to hold up and withstand more concurrent connections than my 2wire? btw my 2wire model is hg2700...

Put and you'll know. Yes, you need bridge mode but I junked my 1-year old wireless router. It's not like it's a N-router, what for keep it, unless u play torrent.

4) if so, then would i need a crooss or str cable to connect frm my 2wire to my smc? and if lets say i have another smc switch as 4ports on my smc router isn't enuf for me. do i connect str or cross cable to my switch frm my smc?

I believe nowadays straight or cross will also work regardless.

5) what's the penalty for canceling my mio plan btw? actually wasn't me who signed up for it.. and for the ethernet cable than connects to my mio tv set top box from my 2wire what is it for? if dun connect can anot? still can watch tv as per normal? i'm on starhub cable.

http://home.singtel.com/mio/mio_plan_faqs.html

mio tv set top box is like your starhub set top box, except that one runs through ADSL network and the other through starhub cable network. u can dun connect it and u can watch tv as per normal from ur starhub service.
[/b]

line 2? i only have 1 phone line. 1 reisdential home phone number.
what i meant is if plug out the cable that connects to my home tel from the modem, and connect directly to wall socket will still work anot?

so for torrenting which is better? 2wire or my smc? able to junk 2wire and just use smc for internet?

Originally posted by elspeth:

damn sacars sia u
i'm askin whether i shld use the bridge mode and use my old smc barricade router (which i was using before the 2wire ) together with the 2 wire so that i can have a better setup and whether it'll be better for BT!! be coz it'll lighten the load on the 2wire as i think it'll not be able to handle the no. of multiple connections for bt. i don't know if it'll make a diff that 's why i'm coming here for advice.

Bridge or non-bridge mode, it won't help your BT... because the main factor lies in the users. If the users don't seed... you will receive slow downloads or can't even download at all...

wah..
so complicated ar...
i'm not signin 4 mio anymore....

Originally posted by goldenblaze2710:

wah..
so complicated ar...
i'm not signin 4 mio anymore....

It's not complicated... only if you are using all 3 services... then yes.

Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:

Bridge or non-bridge mode, it won't help your BT... because the main factor lies in the users. If the users don't seed... you will receive slow downloads or can't even download at all...

i'm talkin abt which mode will be able to handle the amt of connections on bt and not lock up the modem / router and give me disconnection to my internet such that i can't surf anymore.

previously had no probs on my smc 7904wbra modem cum router so i'm wondering whether i can connect my 2wire to that?

even now i have disconection whenever i try to use the phone .. i can't even dial out using my home line. wth! and i get 5-6mbps incoming bandwidth when i paid for 10mbps... any1 can help me out with my prob here and what's the cause of it? i'm still connected directly to my 2wire...

another q . would be will my 2wire be really able to connect in bridge mode to another smc modem/router barricade? when i connect i will use the rj45 cable to connect 1 side to the etherenet port of the 2wire and the other to 1 of the 4 ethernet ports on the smc. some1 said couldn't work this way... how tru e is this?

Originally posted by MyPillowTalks:

Im on mio and i can only help abit, im not a guru

BEfore continuing, did u sign up for MIO voice? cos from ur post, u said u are using 2wire 2700....isit 2700hgv2?

From wad i understand, i think the 2 phones in ur house is connected to the modem, which is the standard way, MIO actually uses sth like VoIP lar....they say until like beri powerfull liddat

u cannot ur phone if u plug it into the wall jack, nor can u use it if u plugged it out of the modem.......means if u 2wire 2700hgv2 is spoilt, u cannot use the phone....which also means u cannot call singnet when ur internet is down.....

dun follow the pic shown in gateway.2wire.net

HOW TO CONNECT SO ALL THE PHONES IN UR HOUSE COULD WORK:

1. From your wall jack, connect a microfilter
2. Connect a splitter[not microfilter, the one with P1 and P2 with a longer wire at the end to the 'telephone' jack at the back of ur modem, such that the 'telephone' port is being 'splitted' up to P1 and P2
3. Now, take out another splitter which is w/o a wire at the end, and connect it to P1
4. Now back to the wall jack, make sure the port with states DSL/H.. has a telephone line connected to ur modem which says 'phone line'
5. The trick: connect a phone line from the 'phone' port from the microfilter(that is plugged in ur wall jack), the connect the other end to P1 of the splitter u just connected( the one w/o a longer wire at the end)
6. now connect a telephone to another P2 of the spliteer without the longer wire at the end

your home phone should all be working

mio voice is just free local outgoing calls for my home phone rite?

Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:

You can cancel MioTV if you want. It's a free 6 months trial. No penalty for that if I'm not mistaken (the Singnet people tried too hard to convince me, haha)

The ethernet cable to the MioTV setup box is for you to stream the shows on TV and send it to your computer to watch...

6. VPI/VCI - 0/100 respectively

erm, actually if i'm not wrong should be depends on how he signed up the miotv. if when he got the mioplan then no contract. if not then got, although mght have no minimum spending for 6 months

erm the ethernet cable to the miotv set up box is actually to stream the shows from the phoneline/modem to the tv.

i draw how to connect, wait

why is it a simple thing, TS has to complicate everything?

so total confusing

Anyone of u dld-ing torrents under MIO?How was it?

Originally posted by lpx88:

Anyone of u dld-ing torrents under MIO?How was it?

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Nothing XDXD I download some OST

i cannot believe people have been asking about how torrent works...........

as long as your network is behind a router, don't expect any good download speed at all....

and even if you have 8 Mb/s, AND the torrent has 0 SEEDERS, it will not work at all, look at it this way, i am using 6500Kb/s for a long long time, my download speed is just fine, how torrent works, depends on whether the torrent is well seeded or not

goodness, i don't understand why people just can't understand a simple thing and has to be ask over and over again...

singtel sucks

To TS: don't use any router at all, even a noob will be able to tap into your network, configure a network is a breeze as long you know how to google for it..... if not, please for goodness sake, stick with direct connection.

fast~! because there are many seeders @ good lantency, clocking 270kb/s, srry npnt, but it's true

onli if have seeders, no seeders=no source, like wan alllen said

what's the extra splitter in step 3 for?
wait i draw my setup see if it s ok with you.
and is the microfilter in step 4 the 2wire one that you'r e referring to?
the one with dsl/hpna port and phone port.

Originally posted by allentyb_v2.01:

i cannot believe people have been asking about how torrent works...........

as long as your network is behind a router, don't expect any good download speed at all....

and even if you have 8 Mb/s, AND the torrent has 0 SEEDERS, it will not work at all, look at it this way, i am using 6500Kb/s for a long long time, my download speed is just fine, how torrent works, depends on whether the torrent is well seeded or not

goodness, i don't understand why people just can't understand a simple thing and has to be ask over and over again...

singtel sucks

To TS: don't use any router at all, even a noob will be able to tap into your network, configure a network is a breeze as long you know how to google for it..... if not, please for goodness sake, stick with direct connection.

pure rubissh i was previuolsyt on my smc and i have the full max spd. it depends on how u configure

Originally posted by yong93:

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Nothing XDXD I download some OST

what are your BT speeds like?

ANYONE on BT on one com and another com on dota at the same time and your 2wire didn't hang? or internet lock up?

Originally posted by elspeth:

what's the extra splitter in step 3 for?
wait i draw my setup see if it s ok with you.
and is the microfilter in step 4 the 2wire one that you'r e referring to?
the one with dsl/hpna port and phone port.

the extra splitter is to connect to the splitter that is connected to the telephone port at the back of ur modem

it is like splitter in splitter

me mapling+torrent no prob, u need to port forward torrent, if u internet lock up maybe is becos processor cannot tahan the massive amt of work, im on old processor, but if torrent is @ 200+ 300kbps then will start to feel lag

Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:

1. Can. I'm pretty sure some features of MIO most won't use except for surfing, so if you want, just switch back.

2. Of course you could, as long as it's the telephone socket telephone cable. How else can you use the phone after plugging out from the telephone socket?

But... since Singnet connections need the telephone cables to be plugged in in order to use the Net, by plugging out the telephone cable from the router, you probably won't have access to the Net.

3 & 4. I don't see why there's a need to use so many devices. Do you have a lot of money to spare? If so, please share.

5. Penalty - go to Singnet's website and download the PDF file to read the penalty.

You can cancel MioTV if you want. It's a free 6 months trial. No penalty for that if I'm not mistaken (the Singnet people tried too hard to convince me, haha)

The ethernet cable to the MioTV setup box is for you to stream the shows on TV and send it to your computer to watch...

6. VPI/VCI - 0/100 respectively

sure or not? 6mths free trial and no penalty to discontinue? I was at hello shop Bugis the other day and looking at the MIO...