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  • OPT's Avatar
    419 posts since Aug '06
    • There is a lot of questions on this forum and others about milk. Here are some fact.

      Not only are dairy products one of the more common foods linked to food intolerance or allergies but most dairy foods today are nutritionally worthless, the exception to this rule being dairy from raw, organic, non pasteurized sources…. And even these should be limited.

      Pasteurization kills off harmless and useful germs alike, and by subjecting the milk to high temperatures, destroys some nutritious constituents.

      Besides destroying part of the vitamin C contained in raw milk and encouraging growth of harmful bacteria, pasteurization turns the sugar of milk, known as lactose, into beta-lactose, which is far more soluble and therefore more rapidly absorbed in the system.

      Pasteurization's also makes insoluble the major part of the calcium contained in raw milk.

      Pasteurization also destroys 20 percent of the iodine present in raw milk, causes constipation and generally takes from the milk its most vital qualities.

      Recent figures published regarding the spread of tuberculosis by milk show, among other facts, that over a period of five years, during which time 70 children belonging to a special organization received a pint of raw milk daily, only one case of the disease occurred. During a similar period when pasteurized milk had been given, 14 cases were reported.

  • yeehaw's Avatar
    340 posts since Jul '05
    • Originally posted by OPT:
      There is a lot of questions on this forum and others about milk. Here are some fact.

      Not only are dairy products one of the more common foods linked to food intolerance or allergies but most dairy foods today are nutritionally worthless, the exception to this rule being dairy from raw, organic, non pasteurized sources…. And even these should be limited.

      Pasteurization kills off harmless and useful germs alike, and by subjecting the milk to high temperatures, destroys some nutritious constituents.

      Besides destroying part of the vitamin C contained in raw milk and encouraging growth of harmful bacteria, pasteurization turns the sugar of milk, known as lactose, into beta-lactose, which is far more soluble and therefore more rapidly absorbed in the system.

      Pasteurization's also makes insoluble the major part of the calcium contained in raw milk.

      Pasteurization also destroys 20 percent of the iodine present in raw milk, causes constipation and generally takes from the milk its most vital qualities.

      Recent figures published regarding the spread of tuberculosis by milk show, among other facts, that over a period of five years, during which time 70 children belonging to a special organization received a pint of raw milk daily, only one case of the disease occurred. During a similar period when pasteurized milk had been given, 14 cases were reported.

      that's to say all that heating causes the calcium in it to become insoluble?

      and therefore more difficult for the body to be absorbed when consumed? OH NOOOOOOOOOO

  • Cool-gal's Avatar
    8,113 posts since Jul '06
  • purez's Avatar
    49 posts since Apr '07
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    53,276 posts since Aug '05
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    1,301 posts since Apr '06
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    1,187 posts since Jun '07
  • OPT's Avatar
    419 posts since Aug '06
  • Cool-gal's Avatar
    8,113 posts since Jul '06
    • Originally posted by purez:
      eh lets go buy cows and suck milk from their nipples everyday Cool

      wah, er xin.

  • gobez14's Avatar
    1,364 posts since Apr '07
  • galapogos's Avatar
    493 posts since May '07
    • I do admit that milk is one of those things I'm not willing to give up yet. I've reduced my milk intake since you've made this point, but I'm still drinking at least 1-2 glasses a day. It used to be 4-5 glasses Smile

      They do help in putting on weight though.

      Just curious, apart from the degradation of the carbs and micronutrients, is there any degradation of the protein/amino acids? After all, whey protein and casein protein are both extracted from pasteurized milk, no?

  • DC+'s Avatar
    1,187 posts since Jun '07
    • thinkin bout it..who was that smart ass who sucked on cow nipples in the first place?

      thats why we have milk now Laughing

  • yeehaw's Avatar
    340 posts since Jul '05
    • mi gods, it's not nipples lah friends.

      udders. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Laughing

      anyhoo, OPT. any suggestions since we have to cut down on milk? Confused

  • SGpork's Avatar
    68,093 posts since Feb '04
    • isit...

      i drink milk almost everyday or once every 2 days...
      either 500ml or 1L a time..

      Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

  • OPT's Avatar
    419 posts since Aug '06
    • Originally posted by yeehaw:
      mi gods, it's not nipples lah friends.

      udders. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Laughing

      anyhoo, OPT. any suggestions since we have to cut down on milk? Confused

      Suggestion for what?

  • eagle's Avatar
    16,867 posts since Aug '01
    • I guess suggestions for more protein intake?

      Is soya bean milk good? I try not to take protein powder.... so I need to get more from natural sources.

  • galapogos's Avatar
    493 posts since May '07
    • No soya bean isn't that good.

      Meat(beef, chicken, turkey, lamb, pork, fish), eggs, nuts, just to name a few.

  • ArdusKane's Avatar
    2,341 posts since Jan '07
  • eagle's Avatar
    16,867 posts since Aug '01
    • Originally posted by galapogos:
      No soya bean isn't that good.

      Meat(beef, chicken, turkey, lamb, pork, fish), eggs, nuts, just to name a few.

      Problem is, I can't just keep eating...

  • OPT's Avatar
    419 posts since Aug '06
    • Originally posted by ArdusKane:
      How about calcium? Before I work on muscle, the foundation must be strong first, right?

      Did you even read what was written?

  • Chii_Chii's Avatar
    16 posts since Jun '07
    • Heard from a fren tat soy products causes depression… tats why most of the qian fei suppliments, esp those powder meals… They contain large amounts of soy…. and since it causes depression, u wont wan to eat other things… thus ur target of losing weight will be achieved..

  • zanza's Avatar
    399 posts since Dec '05
    • Oh noooooss. I've been using dairy milk as a after workout drink.

      Any recommendations for a milk replacement ?

      p.s I avoid taking supplements so no whey, etc. thanks =)

  • eagle's Avatar
    16,867 posts since Aug '01
    • Originally posted by zanza:
      Oh noooooss. I've been using dairy milk as a after workout drink.

      Any recommendations for a milk replacement ?

      p.s I avoid taking supplements so no whey, etc. thanks =)

      I also have the same question.

      Even if most of the nutrients in milk are destroyed, is the protein intake from those milk still effective?

  • OPT's Avatar
    419 posts since Aug '06
  • OPT's Avatar
    419 posts since Aug '06
    • Originally posted by zanza:
      Oh noooooss. I've been using dairy milk as a after workout drink.

      Any recommendations for a milk replacement ?

      p.s I avoid taking supplements so no whey, etc. thanks =)

      Ever heard of meat?

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