http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 en-US 60 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by j441167:</div> <div class="quote_body">catholic worship mary,<br /> christians worship jesus.</div> </blockquote> <p>correction...<br /> <br /> both Protestant and Catholic Christians worship Jesus and God<br /> while Catholic Christians rever the Vrigin Mary as Mother of Christ (ie. Mother of God), Protestant Christian repected her as a saint (same as any other saint) <img title="Smile" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p> Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:23:36 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7373401 vince69 http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <p>catholic worship mary,<br /> christians worship jesus.</p> Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:25:26 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7373266 j441167 http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:</div> <div class="quote_body">Irreligionist<br /></div> </blockquote> <p>I had always thought that you are anti-religionist instead <img title="Mr. Green" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt="Mr. Green" /></p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:41:50 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7370398 vince69 http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Wu Tang Clanionaire:</div> <div class="quote_body">can sumone lemma kno a differences btw catholic and christian?????????</div> </blockquote> <p>The proper way to phrase this will be like this. Protestants and Catholics are both Christians. For Protestants they attend services. It's usually P&amp;W followed by preaching. Catholics attend Mass. To generalize, the basis of Protestant faith is personal and the Bible is the pillar (of coz faith too). Catholics attend Mass and we go through and have the 7 sacraments. Beyond this the pillars of the Catholic church is the Bible, Mageisterium and Traditions.<br /> <br /> And if you are curious on whether the Bible is similar. Well there is a slight variations. Catholic Bibles have the Deutrocanonicals. Something like a second series of Books</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:18:17 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7369868 ben1xy http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by laurence82:</div> <div class="quote_body">wah fat tummy<br /> <br /> surprising sia<br /> <br /></div> </blockquote> <p>I'll tell you the whole story when I get back ..... some happenings in life you simply cannot deny, nor avoid ....</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:55:43 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7369760 Fatum http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fatum:</div> <div class="quote_body">not in Singapore ... St Thomas More ... affiliated with a catholic liberal arts collage ... <img title= "Wink" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_wink.gif" alt= "Wink" /></div> </blockquote> <p>wah fat tummy<br /> <br /> surprising sia<br /> <br /></p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:43:03 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7369394 laurence82 http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by laoda99:</div> <div class="quote_body">i will put u down under catholic<br /> <br /> which church u currently undergoing RCIA?</div> </blockquote> <p>not in Singapore ... St Thomas More ... affiliated with a catholic liberal arts collage ... <img title="Wink" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" /></p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:28:59 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7369332 Fatum http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by cloud210:</div> <div class="quote_body">Like above, I do not believe in heaven nor hell in afterlife. If there is, or like christians said, jesus/god will judge you whether you get to heaver or hell. When that time comes, I rather god pass judgement on me based on merits, and not because i'm not a christian. It's like an adopted son being filial, but no matter what he does, he can never be on equal standing to the real son.<br /> <br /> <span style="color: red;">Ya, I kena a few times, "if you don't listen to me, you go to hell". Listen already so turned off. I immediately distance myself from them. The way jesus/god pass judgement to allow good christians to heaven and non-christians be it good or bad to hell is one of the main reasons i chose not to believe in christianity. Its rather unfair don't you think?</span><br /> <br /> By the way, thanks for your info. Really appreciate it</div> </blockquote> <p>No prob.... <img title="Mr. Green" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "Mr. Green" /><br /> <br /> 1. One thing which Christians believe....u do not go Heaven base on merits, but rather faith in God thru his son Jesus Christ.<br /> <br /> 2. To the lay man, it may sound unfair if we solely base justification by faith only.....but probem also arise if u put it solely base on merit? How good is good? Is there any way we can "bargain" with God abt how much merit we accumulated?<br /> <br /> Therefore, Christians still believe in justification by faith, rather than on merits.</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:22:54 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7369294 laoda99 http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fatum:</div> <div class="quote_body">ermmmm ..... hello ..<br /> <br /> former staunch atheist .... catholic-to-be .... <img title= "Very Happy" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_biggrin.gif" alt= "Very Happy" /></div> </blockquote> <p>i will put u down under catholic<br /> <br /> which church u currently undergoing RCIA?</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:18:25 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7369263 laoda99 http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <p><br /> btw ... this is just a philosophical take on my part ....<br /> <br /> I think religion has a lot to do with fate ....<br /> <br /> some people are fated to be touched by Buddha in their lifetimes, some people are fated to be touched by Jesus ..... and some are fated to be atheists, untouched by anything etc etc .....<br /> <br /> to each his own ... I guess ... <img title="Wink" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" /></p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:50:43 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368510 Fatum http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Wu Tang Clanionaire:</div> <div class="quote_body">worship of jesus????</div> </blockquote> <p>not who lah... where... I believe the correct question should.<br /> <br /> which parish do you attend your mass ?</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:46:45 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368497 vince69 http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by cloud210:</div> <div class="quote_body"><span style="color: red;">Ya, I kena a few times, "if you don't listen to me, you go to hell". Listen already so turned off. I immediately distance myself from them. The way jesus/god pass judgement to allow good christians to heaven and non-christians be it good or bad to hell is one of the main reasons i chose not to believe in christianity. Its rather unfair don't you think?</span><br /> <br /> By the way, thanks for your info. Really appreciate it</div> </blockquote> <p>It is more like the approach of attracting people to the community, I bet Jesus or all other Almighty ones do not deflame the other believers of other religions.<br /> I really pity those who tried to hard sell to me, i see them more like an MLM competitor. Human tend to err but try not to repeat the same blunder over and over again. <img title="Wink" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" /></p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:30:50 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368213 sLeEpWaLkErInG http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by laoda99:</div> <div class="quote_body">My personal views<br /> <br /> 1. Why do Christians seek for eternal afterlife?<br /> <br /> I do not think it is exclusive for Christians in seeking for eternal afterlife. I think it is a human thing, not just for Christians. It is a "human need". What is ur take on this?<br /> <br /> <span style="color: red;">Well, I don't see the point about worrying of eternal afterlife, cause I do not know does it really exist a not. My principle of life is, whether is there really heaven and hell or not, I will do my best to help people whenever I can, I do not need a religion nor reason to help people. I do not think what will happen to me afterlife, I just think how can I help people in need when they approach me.</span><br /> <br /> 2. Why Christians regard afterlife more important than now?<br /> <br /> Our life here on earth is only temporal. Very soon we will pass on. If afterlife is eternal, isn't this more important than NOW, which is temporal?<br /> <br /> <span style="color: red;">Like above, I do not believe in heaven nor hell in afterlife. If there is, or like christians said, jesus/god will judge you whether you get to heaver or hell. When that time comes, I rather god pass judgement on me based on merits, and not because i'm not a christian. It's like an adopted son being filial, but no matter what he does, he can never be on equal standing to the real son.</span><br /> <br /> 3. Why is that non-Christians go to hell?<br /> <br /> I remembered when I was in sec 2 one of my classmate keep asking me, a buddhist, to go to hell if I am not a Christian. I was truely offended by it. But coming back to the question, the bible says only Jesus has authority to judge and that he will know all those who has been given to him. We also know that those who has Jesus has life, and that no one go to the father except thru Jesus. Of coz, this is our beliefs, and I think the thing that is wrong here sometimes in the evangelical approach: how we reach out to non-christians.<br /></div> </blockquote> <p><span style="color: red;">Ya, I kena a few times, "if you don't listen to me, you go to hell". Listen already so turned off. I immediately distance myself from them. The way jesus/god pass judgement to allow good christians to heaven and non-christians be it good or bad to hell is one of the main reasons i chose not to believe in christianity. Its rather unfair don't you think?</span><br /> <br /> By the way, thanks for your info. Really appreciate it</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:17:59 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368177 cloud210 http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fatum:</div> <div class="quote_body">that was one ... but I was unconvinced till I had a real and direct experience, something sublime, esoteric ... with which words are such a poor medium to express the experience with ....<br /> <br /> after that I can no longer deny him .... blind faith is still beyond me ... if not for that real empiric experience, I still would not have become a believer ....<br /> <br /> I have been taking RCIA lessons, and will be baptized the next easter ...<br /> <br /></div> </blockquote> <p>OIC, you were already attending a RC Church... that figures....</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:02:19 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368109 AndrewPKYap http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:</div> <div class="quote_body">Sorry to be so pushy but I am really curious... God found you and you decided on the RC church. Why not Hinduism, or something else, for example?<br /> <br /> Or do you mean that God found you while you were attending mass, or something like that?</div> </blockquote> <p>that was one ... but I was unconvinced till I had a real and direct experience, something sublime, esoteric ... with which words are such a poor medium to express the experience with ....<br /> <br /> after that I can no longer deny him .... blind faith is still beyond me ... if not for that real empiric experience, I still would not have become a believer ....<br /> <br /> I have been taking RCIA lessons, and will be baptized the next easter ...<br /> <br /></p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:00:41 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368103 Fatum http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fatum:</div> <div class="quote_body">cos it just happened ......<br /> <br /></div> </blockquote> <p>Sorry to be so pushy but I am really curious... God found you and you decided on the RC church. Why not Hinduism, or something else, for example?<br /> <br /> Or do you mean that God found you while you were attending mass, or something like that?</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:57:34 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368092 AndrewPKYap http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:</div> <div class="quote_body">OK... but why RC then?<br /> <br /> If God found you, then you would be outside of religion, no?</div> </blockquote> <p>cos it just happened ......<br /> <br /></p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:54:06 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368081 Fatum http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:</div> <div class="quote_body">sure, no problem <img title="Arrow" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_arrow.gif" alt="Arrow" /> Google <img title="Laughing" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" /></div> </blockquote> <p><img src="http://tapes.ieattapes.com/uploads/Bush_O_RLY.jpg" alt="image" /></p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:53:13 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368077 Wu Tang Clanionaire http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fatum:</div> <div class="quote_body">they are not ....<br /> <br /> I did not find God .... God found me ......</div> </blockquote> <p>OK... but why RC then?<br /> <br /> If God found you, then you would be outside of religion, no?</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:51:59 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368075 AndrewPKYap http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:</div> <div class="quote_body">Really ah? I never knew Catholics to be evangelizing and so what makes you / who talked you into converting?</div> </blockquote> <p>they are not ....<br /> <br /> I did not find God .... God found me ......<br /> <br /></p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:49:13 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368059 Fatum http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Wu Tang Clanionaire:</div> <div class="quote_body">can sumone lemma kno a differences btw catholic and christian?????????</div> </blockquote> <p>sure, no problem <img title="Arrow" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_arrow.gif" alt="Arrow" /> Google <img title="Laughing" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" /></p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:45:44 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368038 AndrewPKYap http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <p>can sumone lemma kno a differences btw catholic and christian?<cite>??</cite>??</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:44:27 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368036 Wu Tang Clanionaire http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fatum:</div> <div class="quote_body">ermmmm ..... hello ..<br /> <br /> former staunch atheist .... catholic-to-be .... <img title= "Very Happy" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_biggrin.gif" alt= "Very Happy" /></div> </blockquote> <p>Really ah? I never knew Catholics to be evangelizing and so what makes you / who talked you into converting?</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:40:50 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7368021 AndrewPKYap http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <p>ermmmm ..... hello ..<br /> <br /> former staunch atheist .... catholic-to-be .... <img title= "Very Happy" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_biggrin.gif" alt= "Very Happy" /></p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:29:44 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7367974 Fatum http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:</div> <div class="quote_body">PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE <img title="Rolling Eyes" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt= "Rolling Eyes" /><br /> <br /> Not one, not two... <img title="Laughing" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" /></div> </blockquote> <p>so you man or woman?</p> Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:28:41 +0800 SgChristian.sgforums.com:2377:288589:7367961 Chin Eng http://SgChristian.sgforums.com/forums/2377/topics/288589