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  • extrinsic's Avatar
    478 posts since May '07
    • Gotton from email..

      A long time ago, there was a huge apple tree. A little boy loved to come and play around it every day. He loved the tree top, ate the apples, took a nap under the shadow...He loved the tree and the tree loved to play with him. Time went by.......

      The little boy had grown up and he no longer played around the tree everyday. One day the boy came back to the tree and he looked sad. "Come play with me," the asked the boy. I am no longer a kid, I don't ' play around trees anymore." The boy replied, "I want toys. I need money to buy them." "Sorry, but I don't have money.....but you can pick my apples and sell them. Then you will have money." The boy was so excited. He grabbed all the apples on the tree and left happily. The boy never came back after he picked the apples.
      The tree was sad.. One day the boy returned and the tree was so excited. "Come and play with me" the tree said. I don't have time to play. I have to work for my family. We need a house for shelter. Can you help me? "Sorry but I don't have a house. But you can chop off my branches to build your house." So the boy cut all the branches off the tree and left happily. The tree was glad to see him happy but the boy never came back since then.

      The tree was lonely and sad. One hot summer day, the boy returned and the tree was so delighted. "Come and play with me!" the tree said. "I am so sad and getting old. I want to go sailing to relax myself. Can you give me a boat? " "Use my trunk to build your boat. You can sail far away and be happy." So the boy cut the tree trunk to make a boat. He went sailing and never showed up for a very long long time.

      Finally, the boy returned after he left for so many years. "Sorry, my boy, but I don't have anything for you anymore. No more apples for yo u...." the tree said". "I don't have teeth to bite" the boy replied. "No more trunk for you to climb on" I am too old for that now" the boy said. "I really can't give you anything.....the only thing left is my dying roots" the tree said with tears. "I don't need much now, just a place to rest. I am tired after all these years." The boy replied "Good! Old Tree Roots is the best place to lean and rest on." "Come, come sit down with me and rest " The boy sat down and the tree was glad and smiled with tears......

      This is a story for everyone. The tree is our parents. When we were young, we loved to play with Mom and Dad...When we grew up, we left them...only come to them when we need something or when we are in trouble. No matter what, parents will always be there and give everything they can to make you happy. You may think the boy is cruel to the tree but that is how all of us are treating our parents.

      Love your parents, no matter where they are.

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  • extrinsic's Avatar
    478 posts since May '07
    • Originally posted by breytonhartge:
      not all of us treat our parents that way...

      most ppl treat parents like this even before they themselves knowing.

      How many times have your parents ask you to clean the house, mop the floor, or help them buy something, but because you meeting with your frds, you tell them cannot or not free?

      Or how many times have they ask you for your money during your payday, for maybe a mere 10% or maybe 20% of your pay, but you refuse? Cuz you need to spend the money on your gf/bf or maybe your own enjoyment? In the event forgetting how much money they had invested in you? to bring you up this big?

      But yet no matter what you did, they still care for you.
      No matter how busy, your mum cooks for you.
      No matter how tired your dad is, he tries to strike up a conversation with you, but most of the time, you either reply, "uh, oh, ya" only.

      It's strange.. the older we get, the more we forget what our parent did for us. How they path our route for us. How we stick to them when we are young. How they save and strive and worked their life out just to provide you a roof over your head, or to fill your tummy?

      sadly, most forget over time. Filial now requires govt to impose laws to follow. I'm sad for the entire human mankind.

      Edited by extrinsic 10 Jan `08, 12:21PM
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    7,555 posts since Jun '05
    • Originally posted by extrinsic:
      most ppl treat parents like this even before they themselves knowing.

      How many times have your parents ask you to clean the house, mop the floor, or help them buy something, but because you meeting with your frds, you tell them cannot or not free?

      Or how many times have they ask you for your money during your payday, for maybe a mere 10% or maybe 20% of your pay, but you refuse? Cuz you need to spend the money on your gf/bf or maybe your own enjoyment? In the event forgetting how much money they had invested in you? to bring you up this big?

      But yet no matter what you did, they still care for you.
      No matter how busy, your mum cooks for you.
      No matter how tired your dad is, he tries to strike up a conversation with you, but most of the time, you either reply, "uh, oh, ya" only.

      It's strange.. the older we get, the more we forget what our parent did for us. How they path our route for us. How we stick to them when we are young. How they save and strive and worked their life out just to provide you a roof over your head, or to fill your tummy?

      sadly, most forget over time. Filial now requires govt to impose laws to follow. I'm sad for the entire human mankind.

      actually, it is not our responsibility to take care of our parents... it is theirs to take care of us. sure we do it because we appreciate the love they give us, but biblically speaking, we are only obliged to honour our parents in YAHWEH.

      to be honest, if I followed the route that my parents planned for me, I would be stuck in a rut and miserable trying to climb the corporate or career ladder that someone else had made...

      with as many out there who have abused their parents, there are also many out there whose parents have neglected them...

      also why must parents ask you for money? if they have done well, they would have enough, this is a sign of a good parent, if they do not have to rely on you for money... you can give it because you appreciate them, but when parents have not planned well enough, then there is a problem... is it just me or is there something wrong with this notion of parents asking for money? Since when was this considered normal? of course if your parents have done everything for you and set you up and given their lives so you can have a better one, you are obliged to return the favour and should give without them even asking for money...

      Government imposes law to shirk responsibility?

  • extrinsic's Avatar
    478 posts since May '07
    • Originally posted by breytonhartge:
      actually, it is not our responsibility to take care of our parents... it is theirs to take care of us. sure we do it because we appreciate the love they give us, but biblically speaking, we are only obliged to honour our parents in YAHWEH.

      to be honest, if I followed the route that my parents planned for me, I would be stuck in a rut and miserable trying to climb the corporate or career ladder that someone else had made...

      with as many out there who have abused their parents, there are also many out there whose parents have neglected them...

      also why must parents ask you for money? if they have done well, they would have enough, this is a sign of a good parent, if they do not have to rely on you for money... you can give it because you appreciate them, but when parents have not planned well enough, then there is a problem... is it just me or is there something wrong with this notion of parents asking for money? Since when was this considered normal? of course if your parents have done everything for you and set you up and given their lives so you can have a better one, you are obliged to return the favour and should give without them even asking for money...

      Government imposes law to shirk responsibility?

      well, if our opinion dosen't click, then it's okay. Smile
      but imho, it's children responsibility to take care of their parent. If they did not give birth to you, they would have at least live 10 times better finiancially. they give you life, there is nothing in the entire world you can repay.

      nvm, no need to argue, i'm not trying to change anything here Smile

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    7,555 posts since Jun '05
    • Originally posted by extrinsic:
      well, if our opinion dosen't click, then it's okay. Smile
      but imho, it's children responsibility to take care of their parent. If they did not give birth to you, they would have at least live 10 times better finiancially. they give you life, there is nothing in the entire world you can repay.

      nvm, no need to argue, i'm not trying to change anything here Smile

      no I am not trying to argue... but just to put the other side of the story across... I know many children who are neglected by their parents, yet their parents still want them to take care of them when they are older... is this fair?

      just something for you to think about, did we choose to be born? or did our parents choose to have us? so if they chose to have us, whose responsibility is whose?

      its like buying a puppy, we choose to buy one, they did not choose us... so it is our responsibility to care for it and feed it etc... do we ask the puppy to give us money? nope, we take care of it without any reservation or qualm at all... will we be better off financially without the puppy? of course... but we choose to have it..

      my apologies if I come across to hard...

  • extrinsic's Avatar
    478 posts since May '07
    • Originally posted by breytonhartge:
      no I am not trying to argue... but just to put the other side of the story across... I know many children who are neglected by their parents, yet their parents still want them to take care of them when they are older... is this fair?

      just something for you to think about, did we choose to be born? or did our parents choose to have us? so if they chose to have us, whose responsibility is whose?

      its like buying a puppy, we choose to buy one, they did not choose us... so it is our responsibility to care for it and feed it etc... do we ask the puppy to give us money? nope, we take care of it without any reservation or qualm at all... will we be better off financially without the puppy? of course... but we choose to have it..

      my apologies if I come across to hard...

      for parent who give birth to children but does not take care of them.. etc. of cuz, what i says does not applies to them.

      yes, we do not choose to be born, if so then commit suicide now, since there's no desire to be born thus to live? Smile

      a puppy, yes, you choose one, but they will remain loyal to you, play with you.. etc. and in return you take care of it.
      but how many childrens will remain loyal with their parents?
      i tink puppies are even better than children nowadays. which is why couple get puppy instead of babies. smart choice. given the degeneration of humans' filial nowadays, it's indeed better to get a puppy. (i'm not generalising, and greatest apologies to those filial children)
      and not to mention, taking care of a puppy is cheaper, easier and more hassle-free.

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    7,555 posts since Jun '05
    • Originally posted by extrinsic:
      for parent who give birth to children but does not take care of them.. etc. of cuz, what i says does not applies to them.

      yes, we do not choose to be born, if so then commit suicide now, since there's no desire to be born thus to live? Smile

      a puppy, yes, you choose one, but they will remain loyal to you, play with you.. etc. and in return you take care of it.
      but how many childrens will remain loyal with their parents?
      i tink puppies are even better than children nowadays. which is why couple get puppy instead of babies. smart choice. given the degeneration of humans' filial nowadays, it's indeed better to get a puppy. (i'm not generalising, and greatest apologies to those filial children)
      and not to mention, taking care of a puppy is cheaper, easier and more hassle-free.

      the problem with children is directly traced to the parent, bad parenting will normally result in bad children...

      you miss the point, we do not choose to be born, so the responsibility should never fall to us... it should fall to the person who decided to do the action...

  • extrinsic's Avatar
    478 posts since May '07
    • Originally posted by breytonhartge:
      the problem with children is directly traced to the parent, bad parenting will normally result in bad children...

      you miss the point, we do not choose to be born, so the responsibility should never fall to us... it should fall to the person who decided to do the action...

      yup~ just commit suicide then. since a person never choose to be born, then just die, isnt that simple? Smile
      if a person chooses to keep on living, it means he or she is directly supportive of his parent giving birth to him or her, so he or she must bear the responsibilities also. Smile

      for an example, a person bribe you to do something illegal, you choose to be bribed, you take the money from the bribe, when police catch you, can you deny and say, the person choose to bribe me mah, not my responsibllity? i am innocent? Smile

      so to sum my points, it's an action by BOTH parties, not just parent.

      Edited by extrinsic 10 Jan `08, 1:38PM
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