http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 en-US 60 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by stellazio:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>if wenger signs this 3, it will be good for his team but in 2-3 years time.. but with fabregas there and a holding midfielder alongside him, i wonder whether does nasir fit in.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I hope AW would sign Barry rather than Nasri, as Nasri and Fabregas are of the same calibre but, he is still good, maybe he can fill in the hole and support Ade from behind and then play with 2 playmakers</p> Sun, 11 May 2008 08:15:21 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8077617 glacer http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>if wenger signs this 3, it will be good for his team but in 2-3 years time.. but with fabregas there and a holding midfielder alongside him, i wonder whether does nasir fit in.</p> Sun, 11 May 2008 01:34:22 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8077153 stellazio http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>Though there are lots of news going aroung about Arsenal at present, Ben Arfa's deal not confirm yet... There are also news of Gunners keen on a&nbsp;<span style="color: #000000;">£12m Nasri and&nbsp;Roma midfielder Aquilani another $12m target...</span></p> Sun, 11 May 2008 01:32:52 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8077147 zocoss http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>deleted</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 19:08:27 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8076204 omgukilledkenny http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>Watched Ben Arfa when he played against Man Utd in UCL.</p> <p>His dribbling is excellent.</p> <p>But he's got poor decision making...like Ronaldo in his debut season in the EPL. <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/biggrin.png" alt= "biggrin.png" /><img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/biggrin.png" alt= "biggrin.png" /></p> Sat, 10 May 2008 19:08:22 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8076203 omgukilledkenny http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by SiMiLaiEh*:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>guyz latest news i heard is arsenal already SIGNED Ben Arfa from lyon..anyone can confirm?!!</p> <p>the news here but the source they did not state..isit TheSun?</p> <p>this may be truely great news <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_twisted.gif" alt= "icon_twisted.gif" /><img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "icon_mrgreen.gif" /></p> <div> <h1>Arsenal win race for £16m Ben Arfa</h1> </div> <div>Arsenal have beaten Liverpool, Manchester United and Chelsea to sign Lyon winger Hatem Ben Arfa, according to reports.</div> <p>The Sun says Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has tied up a £16m deal for the Tunisian-born star.<br /> <br /> The fee has risen after Ben Arfa helped spearhead Lyon's Champions League campaign, which ended in defeat at Manchester United.<br /> <br /> Ben Arfa has recently broken into the French national squad after a series of impressive displays for the French champions.&lt;!---&lt;br /&gt;MPUMinCharsCutOff:210 PageLength:359&lt;br /&gt;MPUPositionFromStart:250 MPUPositionRange:1000&lt;br /&gt;hasVideoOrImage:False&lt;br /&gt;--&gt;<br /> &lt;!--- NO IMAGE OR VIDEO --&gt;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Not confirmed yet ... but I hope this is for real</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 18:40:03 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8076165 Trump_Card http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>barry will hlep with the english quota rule too if it was ever implemented!</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 17:17:36 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8076026 stellazio http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>if indeed&nbsp;ben arfa is joining, that is good news, he is definitely more attacking minded than hleb. that is what arsenal needed, more firepower from midfield.</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 17:14:14 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8076020 reyes http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>guyz latest news i heard is arsenal already SIGNED Ben Arfa from lyon..anyone can confirm?!!</p> <p>the news here but the source they did not state..isit TheSun?</p> <p>this may be truely great news <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_twisted.gif" alt= "icon_twisted.gif" /><img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "icon_mrgreen.gif" /></p> <div class=""> <h1>Arsenal win race for £16m Ben Arfa</h1> </div> <div class="">Arsenal have beaten Liverpool, Manchester United and Chelsea to sign Lyon winger Hatem Ben Arfa, according to reports.</div> <p>The Sun says Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has tied up a £16m deal for the Tunisian-born star.<br /> <br /> The fee has risen after Ben Arfa helped spearhead Lyon's Champions League campaign, which ended in defeat at Manchester United.<br /> <br /> Ben Arfa has recently broken into the French national squad after a series of impressive displays for the French champions.&lt;!---&lt;br /&gt;MPUMinCharsCutOff:210 PageLength:359&lt;br /&gt;MPUPositionFromStart:250 MPUPositionRange:1000&lt;br /&gt;hasVideoOrImage:False&lt;br /&gt;--&gt;<br /> &lt;!--- NO IMAGE OR VIDEO --&gt;</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 15:22:07 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8075848 SiMiLaiEh* http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>his service is so much more then torres..</p> <p>if torres was in arsenal, arsenal would've been champions by now.</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 14:55:36 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8075798 stellazio http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>But overall, he scored more goals than Torres leh... How ca you get rid of a striker who score more than Torres?</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 10:42:12 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8075255 zocoss http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p class=""><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">ARSENAL</span> have joined the race for Brazilian ace Diego, according to the player's father.</strong></p> <p class="">The Werder Bremen forward is wanted by a host of Europe's top clubs, including Chelsea.</p> <p class="">But the Gunners are also interested along with Real Madrid and Juventus.</p> <p class="">Diego's father Djar Cunha, who also acts as the star's agent, said: "Real, Arsenal and Juve love my son.</p> <p class="">"I am not happy with the situation at Bremen. The dream of Diego is to play in Champions League."</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 10:17:38 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8075203 a-Lost-9uY http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by reyes:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>ade, you should&nbsp;prove us&nbsp;&nbsp;another fabulous season before starting opening your lion mouth. you could be a one off season player.</p> <p>c ronaldo&nbsp;get that salary when he prove in consecutive season what a consistent goals scorer or provider he is!!</p> <p>Arsenal should sell him!!!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>i agree with you.&nbsp; arsenal should sell him.&nbsp; he is not that good.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 08:41:39 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8075063 dragg http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>yeah always trust arsene wenger to find replacements, he's damn good at spotting talent.</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 06:15:45 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8075008 mackee http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>The departure of flamini and hleb is not a setback..is just the beginning of something better to come</p> Sat, 10 May 2008 01:40:31 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8074856 SiMiLaiEh* http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>Please get Nasri and Ben Arfa ! <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mad.gif" alt="icon_mad.gif" /></p> Sat, 10 May 2008 00:12:37 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8074692 Trump_Card http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>nasir is a gem!</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 23:38:07 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8074607 stellazio http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p class=""><strong>ARSENAL could snap up whizkid Samir Nasri for just £12million this summer.</strong></p> <p class="">&nbsp;</p> <p class="">Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has been put on red alert by Marseille's admission they will sell the France midfielder.</p> <p class="">&nbsp;</p> <p class="">Despite tying down Nasri to a new deal until 2012, the French club have admitted their star player has a clause in his contract that would force them to sell him for £12m.</p> <p class="">&nbsp;</p> <p class="">Marseille president Pape Diouf revealed: "Samir could leave each season, if we receive an offer in between £12m and £16m.</p> <p class="">&nbsp;</p> <p class="">"But we are trying to envisage things from another angle and our aim isn't to weaken our team."</p> <p class="">&nbsp;</p> <p class="">Wenger is a long-term admirer of Nasri and with Alex Hleb on the verge of quitting the club, he has signalled his intention to sign a creative midfielder.</p> <p class="">&nbsp;</p> <p class="">Nasri, 20, has already played seven times for his country and claims he would be open to offers from Europe's top clubs.</p> <p class="">&nbsp;</p> <p class="">He said: "At the moment, I am not thinking about what I am going to do.</p> <p class="">&nbsp;</p> <p class="">"But I will not leave for another French club, that is for sure.</p> <p class="">&nbsp;</p> <p class="">"I will not leave for leaving's sake."</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 22:33:07 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8074403 a-Lost-9uY http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Saltiga:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>there is something call pay structure, if you allow a player of a certain class to get more then what the rest of the same class players get then chances is that those in that same class will also demand for a pay increase, hence triggering more problem, so sometime selling one player to slient the rest&nbsp;might at times be the best choice, and as far as AW is concerned he sure knows what he is doing given that he had proven his worth with the likes of Henry, Veria, Campbell etc..</p> <p>also alot of times move are made possible by their agent, agreed that agents also&nbsp;makes money when their players sign a new contract but if they are being transferred to another club agents usually tends to make more then just signing an extension even more so when that player gets a free transfer</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Tho I agree with your point in principle, But i feel its quite difficult to apply it to Flamini who was a player out of contract... Moreover, many believed he was their most consistent player throughout the season... even more than Fabregas who seemed to have gone missing from Feb to April...</p> <p>I belief&nbsp;they should have classed him in the same group as Fabregas and Gallas if you call it a top level&nbsp;pay structure class...&nbsp;Perhaps they&nbsp;did&nbsp;not... But 3, 4 months ago Wenger came out and said&nbsp;confidently that&nbsp;Flamini will sign and he had no worries he&nbsp;will leave... My guess is either he was too confident Flamini won't leave his comfort zone at Arsenal just for a little bit more money... or he didn't have any idea what was going on... Coming out at the end to say he was disappointed he left won't do any good already...</p> <p>Having a pay structure is great but you cannot short changed your staff also right... Now we already heard Helb could also be leaving, and Adebayor demanding&nbsp;a new deal of £80,000-a-week...</p> <p>If they want to continue to attract good players, this kind of news can't be helpful... I belief the board need to re-think and change their policy soon or Wenger's won't be able to hold them together on his own...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 19:39:48 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8073973 zocoss http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <blockquote> <p>Ok lah, Flamini go over for $65k include tax free... Arsenal's offer&nbsp;here $55k excluding tax yet... But still about $20k difference only what... 1 year extra $1m, 4 to 5 yrs only extra another $4 or $5 million only mah... still&nbsp;lesser than&nbsp;Barry's transfer fee already... and that one can drag 5 yrs payment somemore...</p> </blockquote> <p>Flamini has proven himself only 1season out of the 4 season he spent at arsenal, that why wenger did not renew his contract earlier.</p> <p>another reason which agent/player dont mention is looking for immediate trophy elsewhere. this is something AC/ Inter can provide but arsenal could not do so in the short term.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 19:23:27 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8073949 reyes http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>there is something call pay structure, if you allow a player of a certain class to get more then what the rest of the same class players get then chances is that those in that same class will also demand for a pay increase, hence triggering more problem, so sometime selling one player to slient the rest&nbsp;might at times be the best choice, and as far as AW is concerned he sure knows what he is doing given that he had proven his worth with the likes of Henry, Veria, Campbell etc..</p> <p>also alot of times move are made possible by their agent, agreed that agents also&nbsp;makes money when their players sign a new contract but if they are being transferred to another club agents usually tends to make more then just signing an extension even more so when that player gets a free transfer</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 19:04:45 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8073923 Saltiga http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Trump_Card:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>If Arsenal were to pay Flamini a little more , this will unsettle the team ... Every player would ask for a pay increment ...</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Not really lah... His reported salary at Milan is $65,000 a week, About $10 to $15,000 more from Arsenal's $50 to $55,000 offer...</p> <p>Since they can pay Fabregas $70,000 they can also pay Flamini $65k what...Afterall, compare to buying a new player will have to count the transfer fee of around $12m... And at present Barry is getting $42k a week you think he is going to expect the same salary with Pool also interested on him?</p> <p>Ok lah, Flamini go over for $65k include tax free... Arsenal's offer&nbsp;here $55k excluding tax yet... But still about $20k difference only what... 1 year extra $1m, 4 to 5 yrs only extra another $4 or $5 million only mah... still&nbsp;lesser than&nbsp;Barry's transfer fee already... and that one can drag 5 yrs payment somemore...</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 18:46:58 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8073900 zocoss http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by zocoss:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>I think its still a waste to spend another $10 to $12 million now when they could have used this money to give Flamini a little more... Diarra too...</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>If Arsenal were to pay Flamini a little more , this will unsettle the team ... Every player would ask for a pay increment ...</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 15:55:14 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8073585 Trump_Card http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>I think its still a waste to spend another $10 to $12 million now when they could have used this money to give Flamini a little more... Diarra too...</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 15:40:18 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8073558 zocoss http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944 <p>I'd rather Wenger get Nigel Reo-Coker . Younger and more dynamic</p> Fri, 09 May 2008 15:20:22 +0800 www.sgforums.com:2497:316944:8073525 Trump_Card http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/316944