http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 en-US 60 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by january:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>People remember these things. So?? As if we still blame them. WE already dun balme and dun wish to talk about these things becos its old news already.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>People only talk about recents news to rant off their anger and stuff. 2 months from now, all chelsea supporters and anti manu people will not feel towards this penalty miss anymore... come on</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>So... precisely&nbsp;its these events that we still recall unfortunately...</p> <p>Like i mentioned Zizu's headbutt incident in 2006...</p> <p>Despite him playing so well in that tournament and getting them to the final... we will always remember him for that single&nbsp;moment...</p> <p>Thats why i said it will always haunt him whenever he think back... and i dare say that by the next Wc in 2010, they will still be talking about Zizu's headbutt incident.</p> <p>2 months from now? I think 2 years from now we will still hear it... I can already say very sure that come&nbsp;next season's premiership, the commentary will still be mentioning about this if you don't believe...</p> Fri, 23 May 2008 17:45:02 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8107818 zocoss http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by stellazio:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>I think when it comes to luck, man utd fans shouldn't be one to talk.. they were even voted as the luckiest team in the epl.. and we all know that when it comes to being champions you need luck..</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Why not? Everyone has a right to talk... And who doesn't know every team in any sports&nbsp;needs some&nbsp;luck on their side in order to win anything... So lets not say who deserve or don't have the right to say it... Cos if Chelsea don't have that "little" bit of luck of having Roman Abramovich buying them... They would probably still be a mid-table side... Don't you agree? That alone is the biggest slice of luck any club can ever get...</p> Fri, 23 May 2008 17:34:26 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8107799 zocoss http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by zocoss:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Yup, there is a thin line, but at the end of the day... That thin line of even 1 mm will be the difference... Wasn't Lampard's equalizer&nbsp;came about by a stoke&nbsp;of good fortune... or how you sum it up as luck?</p> <p>Had they not had that luck, I think the match wouldn't even need to go to extra time let alone penalties...</p> <p>And had Riise not scored that almost impossible&nbsp;own goal&nbsp;5 mins into injury time (rather long injury time i felt)... I think Chelsea wouldn't even be in the final...</p> <p>So you still&nbsp;think they didn't had their fair share of luck? I think Pool fans wouldn't agree...</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I think when it comes to luck, man utd fans shouldn't be one to talk.. they were even voted as the luckiest team in the epl.. and we all know that when it comes to being champions you need luck..</p> Fri, 23 May 2008 17:02:27 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8107717 stellazio http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by zocoss:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> Today there are still people who remember Baggio missing his penalty&nbsp;and giving the WC to&nbsp;Brazil in 94... Beckham's silly sending off in 98, David Seasan's mistake that&nbsp;allow Ronaldinho to score and win in 2002...</p> <p>Then there is Zizu's headbutt incident in 2006...</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>People remember these things. So?? As if we still blame them. WE already dun balme and dun wish to talk about these things becos its old news already.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>People only talk about recents news to rant off their anger and stuff. 2 months from now, all chelsea supporters and anti manu people will not feel towards this penalty miss anymore... come on</p> Fri, 23 May 2008 15:58:16 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8107570 january http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p><img src="http://i28.tinypic.com/6yfl9v.jpg" alt="" /></p> Fri, 23 May 2008 06:49:14 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8106477 fatone http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>I think it's really not fair to blame Terry, and all those pictures I've been seeing around are very mean in nature. Terry did his best and played excently during normal time.</p> <p>If anyone's to blame, it would be Drogba.</p> Fri, 23 May 2008 05:39:35 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8106466 Sumone3 http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by stellazio:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>the thin line between champions and runners up, and also the difference between the 2 teams for this season.. 1 word to sum it all up, LUCK.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Yup, there is a thin line, but at the end of the day... That thin line of even 1 mm will be the difference... Wasn't Lampard's equalizer&nbsp;came about by a stoke&nbsp;of good fortune... or how you sum it up as luck?</p> <p>Had they not had that luck, I think the match wouldn't even need to go to extra time let alone penalties...</p> <p>And had Riise not scored that almost impossible&nbsp;own goal&nbsp;5 mins into injury time (rather long injury time i felt)... I think Chelsea wouldn't even be in the final...</p> <p>So you still&nbsp;think they didn't had their fair share of luck? I think Pool fans wouldn't agree...</p> Fri, 23 May 2008 01:47:32 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8106406 zocoss http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by youyayu:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>zocoss... if terry is not there... i am sure chelsea has already lost the game since if he nv clear that ball</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Yeah i know...&nbsp;unfortunately people don't remember the saved he made during the match, but more likely the missed or the mistakes... Even Terry himself will feel the same way... It happens with everyone not just him...</p> <p>Today there are still people who remember Baggio missing his penalty&nbsp;and giving the WC to&nbsp;Brazil in 94... Beckham's silly sending off in 98, David Seasan's mistake that&nbsp;allow Ronaldinho to score and win in 2002...</p> <p>Then there is Zizu's headbutt incident in 2006... Despite him playing so well in that tournament and getting them to the final... we will always remember him for that single&nbsp;moment... Thats what i am referring to... Thats why i said it will always haunt him whenever he think back... Cos he could also have thoughts of being the hero for them, Their first captain to lift the cup, helping them to win the cup in their first final... all these things...</p> Fri, 23 May 2008 01:26:30 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8106400 zocoss http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>sumone3.. i couldnt agree more.. i just felt the ref was also very dodgy in his decisions.. couldn't say which side he swayed too cos i saw a lot of dodgy decisions all over.. and red card was fully deserved yes. like i said, welcome him to the club of mascherano and nani.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>this season i have watched man u played their football and&nbsp;when they played superbly, they lost matches 1-0 and so on in the BPL and even against portsmouth.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>the final yest could have been chelsea had terry had scored, and we wouldn't blame luck wouldnt we? because clearly i think chelsea played better football overall. or at least of the 2 teams, chelsea looked like the one who is gg to score. but nevertheless, luck as it seems to have evaded us previously in a few matches, returned and won us the cup so yeah im happy for that. =P</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>to slip and miss a simple penalty under no pressure knowing that a simple kick could won your team the title, tell me it aint luck? tell me terry lacks the skill to take a proper penalty?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>im a man u fan, but more importantly im a soccer fan. but most importantly im human and these are just my 2 cents worth.</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 23:12:40 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8106100 dinky1409 http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by stellazio:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>the thin line between champions and runners up, and also the difference between the 2 teams for this season.. 1 word to sum it all up, LUCK.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>you probably means there is only a thin line separating&nbsp;Chelsea and ManU this season.. (which i agreed) but as with all competition, the difference between Champion is that no ones remember the runner up after 2-3 years so its either you win or you don't, sad case but its a realilty</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 19:28:13 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8105445 Saltiga http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>sad for terry the slip. haha</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 19:27:56 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8105442 Y_Shun http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>why does everyone says that its luck?</p> <p>In the first place you have to work hard for chances to&nbsp;happen, and when a chance come if you're capable to take it, than you deserve it. Luck wouldnt just come to you, while you have to work hard to earn it.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>For chelsea case, they worked hard, chances came, however they are not capable of taking it. e.g. hitting the woodwork isnt unlucky, its just that they arent good enough to take the shot from that angle or they are being pressured thus the shot was poorly taken.</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 19:10:10 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8105397 logistic http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>sympathy for chelsea.. at 1 point i thought they were going to win it and then the next moment, he slipped. i cant say which team wants to win it more cause both teams have worked hard to get into the final. in football theres always a winner and a loser</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 16:02:47 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8105000 brokenluv http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>the thin line between champions and runners up, and also the difference between the 2 teams for this season.. 1 word to sum it all up, LUCK.</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 15:04:01 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104873 stellazio http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>i think it would be the biggest insult to football managers if avram grant won the biggest prize, small time manager who buay paiseh lobbied to get jose off the team. Whats so great about using a jose built team to win games? fucking jewish cunt</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 14:59:17 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104855 snowfoxx http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>chelsea dont deserve to lose... 1st 30min badly play.. but after that.. chelsea dominated the whole game.. i would say makelele was excellent. he stop alot of manu attacks. i feel that grant should haf put anelka or shev out earlier.. drogba hold the ball well.. but noone supporting him.. joe cole always tracking back to help out essien.. malouda lost ball easily.. try again nxt season chelsea!! history r to be created...</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 14:15:50 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104798 weiz87 http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>The result of that game was already written in the heavens even before kick off.Man U won Chelsea lost.Period</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 13:22:17 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104657 Short Ninja http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>zocoss... if terry is not there... i am sure chelsea has already lost the game since if he nv clear that ball</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 13:07:52 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104609 youyayu http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>a tale of 2 halves. Man U started off strongly and make Chelsea looks normal. Even after Ronaldo score the first goal, they could have scored two more had not been Cech. Then van de Sar begins slipping and concede the equaliser due to some unfortunate deflections.</p> <p>second half chelsea played stronger. And I find Man U lacking ideas, Chelsea clammed down on the flanks, Ronaldo and Evra could not get passes together. Or they will pump the ball into the Chelsea box but finding no one. Almost no traffic on the right flank as Heagrave was switched to more defensive role. And Chelsea is unfortunate, they hit the woodwork twice, had a penalty waved (one tackle was a valid penalty) and there are several incidents where it should be corner kick but referee awarded goal kick.</p> <p>This also expose Man U’s problem with striker this season – for most of the second half, they are pumping balls into Chelsea’s box but none can get to it. Tevez is too short. Ronaldo is pegged down to the flanks. Rooney is crowded out mostly by Terry and Cavalho. And perhaps most tellingly, with the game dragging to extra time, Chelsea is able to bring on Kolou and Anelka for strikers and they still have Shevechenko on bench ! Man U on the other hand, has no real striker after Rooney was withdrawn. Giggs is midfield and he is old, leaving only Tevez who is too small to do any damage.</p> <p>Saha is the sickpot and does not have the match fitness to make the bench. During the penalty kick, one can tell Ronaldo is trying to be arrogant or cheeky and gave a tame one…</p> <p>Its really luck that Terry miss the penalty. It is skill that Van der Sar saved Anelka’s kick. At the end of the day, Man U have a large dose of luck to ride through the 2nd half to come to penalty</p> <p>Hence, man U is lucky this season – just like in 1999 they were lucky.</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 12:29:10 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104510 red_amoeba http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>I think Terry cannot forget&nbsp;that penalty missed... It will haunt him for the rest of his life...</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 12:10:38 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104452 zocoss http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>Who cares.. over liao.. Man U won.. now for Euro!!</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 11:44:16 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104357 Gackt247 http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>2 words, not bothered</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 11:25:03 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104311 redDUST http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <p>i didn’t stay beyond the final whistle….the second half was certainly more blues than red on the pitch….grant was praised recently for taking chelsea so far…but reality is that the team out there was what the last guy had molded and would have sent out….these chelsea players basically organised themselves…. grant did nothing to put on the squeeze in the last quarter when fergie was clearly flustered…the mouth in the ass mourinho was sure to have done something, especially after drogba’s close effort, for playing the better game in the second half but not score, it frustrated chelsea and drogba imploded….</p> <p>....manu played a good controlled game in the beginning, allowing little space but that momentum got knocked out when lampard scored….carrick was pretty much wasteful, the 3 amigos upfront didn’t do too much for this game….and you’re right, neither deserved to lose and penalties in any final is still crap…</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 11:05:04 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104290 dukedracula http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dukedracula:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>what a bore fest….any final that comes down to penalty is crap…..game of two halves…</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>2 goals were scored before the penalty shoot out and truly how could you even think it was crap? Unless of course if you're an Arsenal fan&gt;hahaha</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 10:56:02 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104277 Short Ninja http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dukedracula:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>what a bore fest….any final that comes down to penalty is crap…..game of two halves…</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>well, I do agree cause the big mega-stars did not really perform. And it boils down to both teams negating each other.but given the chances, shots and drama, it was not crap. Like I said, both teams did not deserve to lose.</p> Thu, 22 May 2008 10:44:43 +0800 realmadrid.sgforums.com:2497:318306:8104259 iceFatboy http://realmadrid.sgforums.com/forums/2497/topics/318306