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      <title>Need It Be 'Us and Them'? replied by fudgester @ Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:54:45 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;(continued)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tolerance means to accept that people have different ideas,
beliefs, values, and customs. It does not mean agreeing with those
who differ from us, but simply allowing them the right to disagree.
This tolerance must be at all levels: individual, groups, and
states. Tolerance upholds human rights, pluralism (including
cultural pluralism), and the rule of law. If everyone must think
and act like us, there would be no human rights. The Qur&#8217;an says
what means:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To every People have We appointed rites and ceremonies which they
must follow, let them not then dispute with you on the matter, but
do invite (them) to your Lord: for you are assuredly on the Right
Way. If they do wrangle with you, say, &#8220;God knows best what it is
you are doing. God will judge between you on the Day of Judgment
concerning the matters in which you differ&#8221;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Surah Al-Hajj (The Pigrimage), 22:67-69&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tolerance of others means we must not defile or destroy non-Muslim
places of worship, nor may we forbid or disturb non-Muslim rituals.
And, of course, it means that we expect the same treatment from
non-Muslims. Furthermore, we should allow non-Muslims to enter our
mosques (except Al-Haram in Makkah) for legitimate reasons-to do
repair work, to learn about Islam, to drink water-as long as they
dress modestly and do not bring in anything to defile them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Muslims are commanded to improve the societies they live in, to
enjoin the good and forbid the wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We should dialogue with non-Muslims, particularly People of the
Book, in order to understand each other better, with focus on what
we share. In no way should such dialogue lead us to concede
anything of our religion or deny any aspects of Islam. But by
forming closed enclaves and refusing to interact and dialogue with
non-Muslims, we remain strange to others and are more likely to
become victims of prejudice. We should also work with non-Muslims
to oppose injustice, promiscuity, homosexuality, abortion, and
other ills of modern society. (See Domains of Muslim-Christian
Cooperation.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We Muslims are commanded to improve the societies we live in, to
enjoin the good and forbid the wrong. It&#8217;s not enough to do that
just among ourselves. We have to be an active part of our
societies, not only to gain our own rights, but to see that right
and justice prevail. We should not hide our Islam but carry it
proudly like a torch everywhere we go and let others know that we
are guided by its principles. Our participation in society does not
have to take the form of political involvement-for those who are
still &#8220;squeamish&#8221; on the subject. It might be an active role in the
Parent-Teachers Association or volunteer work in any number of
areas. The important thing is to work with the non-Muslims around
us to improve society (and to try to gradually shape it to our
standards).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When end-of-the-year holidays come around, many Muslims ask whether
they can celebrate with or give gifts to their non-Muslim
colleagues, friends, or family. Some ask whether they can even say
&#8220;Merry Christmas!&#8221; or &#8220;Happy Hanukah!&#8221; to others. Well, of course
we can wish them a happy holiday.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As long as alcohol and other forbidden items are not served, as
long as there are no expressly un-Islamic activities, as long as
the celebration is secular and not religious, there is nothing
wrong in joining in. These holidays are important for uniting
families, and as long as nothing un-Islamic takes place, we can
join our families or friends for these festivities. (However, we
must not celebrate these holidays on our own.) And if the family
gathering does include haram (unlawful) food or activities, we can
still visit our parents at another time-for example on Christmas
Eve or Christmas morning-and give them gifts. After all, they are
still our parents and still deserve love and respect, provided that
they don&#8217;t fight us for our Islam.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If we change our attitude towards &#8220;the others&#8221; and learn to think
of them not only as non-Muslims but as fellow citizens and humans,
we can take the first step to better understanding from both
sides.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;(written by the IslamOnline.net team)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Need It Be 'Us and Them'? replied by fudgester @ Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:52:32 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;(continued)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for dealing with non-Muslims, we should never forget that we are
to be kind and just with all those who do not fight us.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Asma&#8217; bint Abi Bakr was visited in Madinah by her pagan mother and
grandfather at a time when the Quraysh of Makkah had a peace treaty
with the Muslims. She asked the Prophet (peace and blessings be
upon him) whether she should treat her mother kindly and was told,
&#8220;Yes&#8221; (Al-Bukhari). After this was revealed the verse
meaning:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Allah does not forbid you that you show kindness and deal justly
with those who did not fight you in your religion and did not drive
you out from your homes&#8230;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;- Surah Al-Mumtahinah (She Who Is Tried)
60:8&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Our neighbors are still our neighbors; our families are still our
families. Though they may not share our faith, they still deserve
our respect, kindness, and justice. There are many hadiths
regarding treatment of neighbors, but none of them say that this is
only for Muslim neighbors.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, `A&#8217;ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) reported:
&lt;strong&gt;I heard Allah&#8217;s Messenger (may peace be upon him) saying:
&#8220;Jibreel (Angel Gabriel) advised me persistently about (kind
treatment) towards the neighbor (so much) that I thought he would
confer upon him the (right) of inheritance&#8221;
(Muslim).&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tolerance means to accept that people have different ideas,
beliefs, values, and customs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) reported:
&lt;strong&gt;Allah&#8217;s Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him)
observed: &#8220;He who believes in Allah and the Last Day should either
utter good words or better keep silent; and he who believes in
Allah and the Last Day should treat his neighbor with kindness; and
he who believes in Allah and the Last Day should show hospitality
to his guest&#8221; (Muslim).&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Abu Hurayah also reported: &lt;strong&gt;Allah&#8217;s Messenger (may peace be
upon him) said: &#8220;None among you should prevent his neighbor from
fixing a beam in his wall&#8221; (Muslim).&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;(to be continued)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Need It Be 'Us and Them'? replied by fudgester @ Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:48:29 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Excerpted with modifications from:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=
"http://www.islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/tolerance/article02.shtml"
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&lt;br /&gt;
Islam is often said to be a tolerant religion. Then why is it that
so many Muslims develop a harsh &#8220;us-and-them&#8221; attitude? People who
have no problem with helping their neighbors or celebrating
holidays with their family or doing volunteer work in the community
become Muslim and then think that they can have nothing to do with
&#8220;those&#8221; people with whom they freely interacted only days or weeks
before. On top of that, the Muslims often refer to the others as
&#8220;kafirs&#8221; (non-Muslims) and pronounce it as if they would spit, as
if it were a vulgar word. What goes wrong?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As usual, the problem is not in Islam itself but in people&#8217;s
misunderstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Muslims have been living among non-Muslims since the beginning of
the Revelation. Sometimes Muslims were the rulers, sometimes they
were not. As early as eighteen years after the death of the Prophet
(peace and blessings be upon him), Muslims-led by Sa`d ibn Abi
Waqqas-sailed to the east coast of China and obtained permission of
the emperor to settle there and establish a mosque at Ch&#8217;ang-an,
which still stands today (Islam in China by Yusuf Abdur Rahman). It
didn&#8217;t seem to bother them to live among non-Muslims. We can see
from this that the issues facing non-ruling Muslim minorities are
not recent ones, and we should remember that even when Muslims were
the rulers, they were often the minority.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many Muslims today, even those who grew up in a multi-cultural
society, have problems dealing with &#8220;others,&#8221; whether those be
non-Muslims or Muslims who hold different opinions on some issues
or who follow a different school of fiqh (jurisprudence).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But in fact, Islam teaches us to tolerate others and accept that
there are differences among us. The creation of people with
different languages and colors is one of the signs of Allah&#8217;s
power. Superiority comes not from one&#8217;s color or tribe, but from
one&#8217;s conduct.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and
the difference of your languages and colors. Lo! herein indeed are
portents for men of knowledge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;- Surah Ar-Rum (The Romans), 30:22&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
O mankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made
you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! the
noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo!
Allah is Knower, Aware.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;- Surah Al-Hujurat (The Private Apartments),
49:13&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And in his final sermon, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon
him) said, &lt;strong&gt;&#8220;You know that every Muslim is the brother of
another Muslim. You are all equal. Nobody has superiority over
another except by piety and good action.&#8221;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Our families and neighbors deserve our respect, kindness and
justice.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thus we should not think that we are better than others and be
intolerant of their opinions. In the Hadith and early history of
Islam, there are many examples of differences of opinion among the
Muslims, yet it did not prevent them from living together
peacefully and cooperating with one another.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;(to be continued)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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