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      <title>Black magic powerless against atheist replied by Lee.christine39 @ Mon, 16 Jun 2008 04:26:46 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by Phaze:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very entertaining story.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://rationalistinternational.net/article/2008/20080310/en_1.html"
title=
"http://rationalistinternational.net/article/2008/20080310/en_1.html"
rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://rationalistinternational.net/article/2008/20080310/en_1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On 3 March 2008, in a popular TV show, Sanal Edamaruku, the
president of Rationalist International, challenged India&#8217;s most
&#8220;powerful&#8221; tantrik (black magician) to demonstrate his powers on
him. That was the beginning of an unprecedented experiment. After
all his chanting of mantra (magic words) and ceremonies of tantra
failed, the tantrik decided to kill Sanal Edamaruku with the
&#8220;ultimate destruction ceremony&#8221; on live TV. Sanal Edamaruku agreed
and sat in the altar of the black magic ritual. India TV observed
skyrocketing viewership rates.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Everything started, when Uma Bharati (former chief minister of
the state of Madhya Pradesh) accused her political opponents in a
public statement of using tantrik powers to inflict damage upon
her. In fact, within a few days, the unlucky lady had lost her
favorite uncle, hit the door of her car against her head and found
her legs covered with wounds and blisters.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;India TV, one of India&#8217;s major Hindi channels with national
outreach, invited Sanal Edamaruku for a discussion on &#8220;Tantrik
power versus Science&#8221;. Pandit Surinder Sharma, who claims to be the
tantrik of top politicians and is well known from his TV shows,
represented the other side. During the discussion, the tantrik
showed a small human shape of wheat flour dough, laid a thread
around it like a noose and tightened it. He claimed that he was
able to kill any person he wanted within three minutes by using
black magic. Sanal challenged him to try and kill him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The tantrik tried. He chanted his mantras (magic words): &#8220;Om
lingalingalinalinga, kilikili&#8230;.&#8221; But his efforts did not show any
impact on Sanal &#8211; not after three minutes, and not after five. The
time was extended and extended again. The original discussion
program should have ended here, but the &#8220;breaking news&#8221; of the
ongoing great tantra challenge was overrunning all program
schedules.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now the tantrik changed his technique. He started sprinkling
water on Sanal and brandishing a knife in front of him. Sometimes
he moved the blade all over his body. Sanal did not flinch. Then he
touched Sanal&#8217;s head with his hand, rubbing and rumpling up his
hair, pressing his forehead, laying his hand over his eyes,
pressing his fingers against his temples. When he pressed harder
and harder, Sanal reminded him that he was supposed to use black
magic only, not forceful attacks to bring him down. The tantrik
took a new run: water, knife, fingers, mantras. But Sanal kept
looking very healthy and even amused.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After nearly two hours, the anchor declared the tantrik&#8217;s
failure. The tantrik, unwilling to admit defeat, tried the excuse
that a very strong god whom Sanal might be worshipping obviously
protected him. &#8220;No, I am an atheist,&#8221; said Sanal Edamaruku.
Finally, the disgraced tantrik tried to save his face by claiming
that there was a never-failing special black magic for ultimate
destruction, which could, however, only been done at night. Bad
luck again, he did not get away with this, but was challenged to
prove his claim this very night in another &#8220;breaking news&#8221; live
program.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Millions of people must have uttered a sigh of relief in front
their TVs. Sanal was very much alive. Tantra power had miserably
failed. Tantriks are creating such a scaring atmosphere that even
people, who know that black magic has no base, can just break down
out of &lt;span style="color: #ff0000;"&gt;fear&lt;/span&gt;, commented a
scientist during the program. It needs enormous courage and
confidence to challenge them by actually putting one&#8217;s life at
risk, he said. By doing so, Sanal Edamaruku has broken the spell,
and has taken away much of the fear of those who witnessed his
triumph.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this night, one of the most dangerous and wide spread
superstitions in India suffered a severe blow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Black magick has no base,out of &lt;span style=
"color: #ff0000;"&gt;fear&lt;/span&gt; that created by mind power &lt;img src=
"/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt=
"icon_mrgreen.gif" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 04:26:46 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Black magic powerless against atheist replied by Ser~pent @ Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:16:07 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Additional add on ;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Magic or any paranormal energy powerless against skeptic mind
&lt;img src="/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/angel.png" alt=
"angel.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Embrace our "beautiful mind" lest&amp;nbsp;mind&amp;nbsp;creation aka
recreation!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Save ur mind then be sorry &lt;img src=
"/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:16:07 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Black magic powerless against atheist replied by &#23567;&#30333;&#33080; @ Sun, 18 May 2008 18:38:06 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;i think the spirit shy to be on tv&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 18:38:06 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Black magic powerless against atheist replied by Ser~pent @ Sun, 18 May 2008 18:00:23 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Black magic or White magic powerless against Doubter aka skeptic
buddhist &lt;img src="/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/biggrin.png"
alt="biggrin.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 18:00:23 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Black magic powerless against atheist replied by wilsonhao @ Sat, 17 May 2008 09:53:54 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Thats very dangerous thing to do. I have read about some people
in the past having a strong determination that nothing can stop or
harm the person. I read from my own religion that once theres one
guy who told people to stop worshipping a God and plot their own
farm diligently, but that God was angry. He summoned storms,
natural disasters and so on but in the end, the guy won because the
God eventually realized that human should really get with business
with their own lives. That is the more meaningful thing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 09:53:54 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Black magic powerless against atheist replied by january @ Fri, 09 May 2008 01:35:50 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Yah... that is why sometimes i say.. to all the bull---- about
ghost. Humans are probably more afraid of other humans most of the
time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;which is more evil, so called ghosts or humans who may hurt you?
Well, think for your self.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The only ghost that you see, hear resides in your mind. Its does
not reside in reality. But we know that if you believe in something
enuff in your brain, you will create the experience of seeing it
for real. THat is the tendency of the brain.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:35:50 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Black magic powerless against atheist replied by bpman @ Thu, 08 May 2008 09:19:52 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I think likewise..ghost is just a word..if ghosts could kill
murderers n killers would be dealt with by the ghosts of those who
killed them. Some human beings&amp;nbsp;can be described as the most
vicious of ghosts&lt;span style="color: #ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;..***every
crime is committed by human beings..not
ghosts***&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 09:19:52 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Black magic powerless against atheist replied by january @ Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:14:13 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;What he is doing is same as me.. challenging ghost to kill me in
one of my thread... haha.. my is internet version.. few weeks
liao... but still my life is still very boring....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:14:13 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Black magic powerless against atheist replied by Zarks @ Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:57:57 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;walao..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:57:57 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>Black magic powerless against atheist replied by Phaze @ Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:47:16 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Very entertaining story.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://rationalistinternational.net/article/2008/20080310/en_1.html"
title=
"http://rationalistinternational.net/article/2008/20080310/en_1.html"
rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://rationalistinternational.net/article/2008/20080310/en_1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=""&gt;On 3 March 2008, in a popular TV show, Sanal Edamaruku,
the president of Rationalist International, challenged India&#8217;s most
&#8220;powerful&#8221; tantrik (black magician) to demonstrate his powers on
him. That was the beginning of an unprecedented experiment. After
all his chanting of mantra (magic words) and ceremonies of tantra
failed, the tantrik decided to kill Sanal Edamaruku with the
&#8220;ultimate destruction ceremony&#8221; on live TV. Sanal Edamaruku agreed
and sat in the altar of the black magic ritual. India TV observed
skyrocketing viewership rates.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=""&gt;Everything started, when Uma Bharati (former chief
minister of the state of Madhya Pradesh) accused her political
opponents in a public statement of using tantrik powers to inflict
damage upon her. In fact, within a few days, the unlucky lady had
lost her favorite uncle, hit the door of her car against her head
and found her legs covered with wounds and blisters.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=""&gt;India TV, one of India&#8217;s major Hindi channels with
national outreach, invited Sanal Edamaruku for a discussion on
&#8220;Tantrik power versus Science&#8221;. Pandit Surinder Sharma, who claims
to be the tantrik of top politicians and is well known from his TV
shows, represented the other side. During the discussion, the
tantrik showed a small human shape of wheat flour dough, laid a
thread around it like a noose and tightened it. He claimed that he
was able to kill any person he wanted within three minutes by using
black magic. Sanal challenged him to try and kill him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=""&gt;The tantrik tried. He chanted his mantras (magic
words): &#8220;Om lingalingalinalinga, kilikili&#8230;.&#8221; But his efforts did
not show any impact on Sanal &#8211; not after three minutes, and not
after five. The time was extended and extended again. The original
discussion program should have ended here, but the &#8220;breaking news&#8221;
of the ongoing great tantra challenge was overrunning all program
schedules.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=""&gt;Now the tantrik changed his technique. He started
sprinkling water on Sanal and brandishing a knife in front of him.
Sometimes he moved the blade all over his body. Sanal did not
flinch. Then he touched Sanal&#8217;s head with his hand, rubbing and
rumpling up his hair, pressing his forehead, laying his hand over
his eyes, pressing his fingers against his temples. When he pressed
harder and harder, Sanal reminded him that he was supposed to use
black magic only, not forceful attacks to bring him down. The
tantrik took a new run: water, knife, fingers, mantras. But Sanal
kept looking very healthy and even amused.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=""&gt;After nearly two hours, the anchor declared the
tantrik&#8217;s failure. The tantrik, unwilling to admit defeat, tried
the excuse that a very strong god whom Sanal might be worshipping
obviously protected him. &#8220;No, I am an atheist,&#8221; said Sanal
Edamaruku. Finally, the disgraced tantrik tried to save his face by
claiming that there was a never-failing special black magic for
ultimate destruction, which could, however, only been done at
night. Bad luck again, he did not get away with this, but was
challenged to prove his claim this very night in another &#8220;breaking
news&#8221; live program.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Millions of people must have uttered a sigh of relief in front
their TVs. Sanal was very much alive. Tantra power had miserably
failed. Tantriks are creating such a scaring atmosphere that even
people, who know that black magic has no base, can just break down
out of fear, commented a scientist during the program. It needs
enormous courage and confidence to challenge them by actually
putting one&#8217;s life at risk, he said. By doing so, Sanal Edamaruku
has broken the spell, and has taken away much of the fear of those
who witnessed his triumph.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this night, one of the most dangerous and wide spread
superstitions in India suffered a severe blow.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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