Milk is the useless junk food for adult

• caleb_chiang

  22 Sep 08, 18:37

  so, ts want to win nobel prize?

• honeymouse

  22 Sep 08, 18:41

  Originally posted by Display Name:

  To make the cow produce milk, they need to make it pregnant, but their objectives is not to produce calf, so the calf given birth will have to be killed after it was born in order to maximize their profit.

  Where do you think beef and veal are coming from?

• deathmaster

  22 Sep 08, 18:43

  Originally posted by Display Name:

  Cow's milk is homogenized and pasteurized -- you've read the labels. What does that process entail? Well, apparently not enough. The current standards for pasteurization do NOT kill all of the harmful bacteria in milk. Not to mention the blood and feces found in milk -- drink up! Please follow this link for more information: http://www.notmilk.com/k.html

  
  you just lost your credibility. blood in milk, maybe. feces in milk? WTH! you think cows like chicken huh, lay milk har?

• d3sT1nY

  22 Sep 08, 18:44

  Impressive.. 

  I thought there was this article in the news not long ago saying teenagers nowadays do not know how to discern what's right and wrong from the net..

  Or maybe I'm wrong..

• brokenluv

  22 Sep 08, 18:59

  soon, all kinds of food will be scientifically proven to cause diseases and illnesses. So we eat ourselves safest lah?

• deathmaster

  22 Sep 08, 19:07

  Originally posted by brokenluv:

  soon, all kinds of food will be scientifically proven to cause diseases and illnesses. So we eat ourselves safest lah?

  
  so are we seeing ox whip soup being replaced with man whip soup?

• kston

  22 Sep 08, 19:08

  Originally posted by Display Name:

  I don't understand why people nowadays still drink milk.
  Not talk about the tainted milk in china, even untainted milk also not worth drinking.
  It is scientifically proven that only children below 3 years old has the enzyme to digest nutritions in milk, once a person reach 4 years and above, not only he has difficulty digesting the milk he drink, the milk will help in developing various disease including cancer and osteoporosis.
  There was a research shows that country that people used to drink milk has higher rate of osteoporosis than country that people don't drink milk. In those poor and undeveloped country or in my grandparents time, people's health is rather good, they never even hear about disease related to low density of bone structure like osteoporosis.
  But now, everywhere I go I can see young people carry a tongkat to support him to walk.
  I can list down another 10 disadvantages of drinking milk, but just excessive protein and osteoporosis are 2 reasons good enough for adult to stop drinking milk.
  
  I think if there is one who managed to overcome money attack from dairy company and convince the world to stop drinking milk, he deserve nobel prize. Why? because he solve the problem before it happen, he saves so many people suffer from these disease, he save the environment and improve people's health.
  I raise 2 hands to support this.

  my muscles will be gone without milk!!!  haha...

   

   

• BadzMaro

  22 Sep 08, 19:10

  whats next.. no eggs for adults ?

• kston

  22 Sep 08, 19:11

  but its quite nonsensicle... to be honest

• 93'guy

  22 Sep 08, 19:32

  talk cock lah . ts trying to attract attention nia . maybe he never drink before milk thats why say milk is bad .

  chi bu dao pu tao shou bu tao suan .

• crimsontactics

  22 Sep 08, 20:36

  Actually there is some truth in what TS had said.

  When i was younger, i was a fan of milk. I would drink at least 2 glasses a day. However, this caused me to suffer from a flu-like syndrome every morning when i wake up, regardless of the weather.

  So, i went to this doctor and he told me to stop drinking milk for a period of time. After i did, my illness stopped. I no longer experience a sniffy nose every morning. From then on, I had limited my dairy comsumption and no longer consume milk directly. I do occasionally pamper myself with products which contains milk like teh and kopi.

  Actually the best evidence to the whether milk is good is by personal experience. If you find that consuming milk actually allow you to live healthily, by all means go ahead. But if you find milk to be affecting your health in a negative way, like me, then why don't you just stop consuming milk for a period of time and see whether that medical condition becomes better.

  It doesn't kill to stop drinking milk for a week :D

• Jezmeister

  22 Sep 08, 20:53

  Lets tackle these one by one rather than just saying 'you're wrong'...

  Obesity - of course milk can lead to obesity - it's full of lipids. You eat too much streaky bacon you'll get fat too. This is also your link to diabetes, as obesity is a leading cause of type 2 diabetes. However the intake of lipids and other triglycerides are important when kept in moderation as they have been shown to prevent heart attacks and strokes among other things.

  'Adult humans cannot digest milk' - this statement is categorically WRONG. What it should say is 'Most adult humans cannot digest lactose' - and indeed in many adult humans it can result in diarrhea or constipation due to mild-severe allergic reactions - and continued IBS with no treatment or control has been linked to the development of cancers such as colorectal cancer. HOWEVER, this is by far not the case for all people and in fact many who are allergic can still tolerate varying amounts of lactose without an allergic reaction - so basically as far as this goes we're saying if it gives you diarrhea or constipation don't drink as much... seems pretty logical doesn't it? (Points less obviously covered here: Crohns disease, Colon cancer, autoimmune disease, diarrhea & constipation)

   Asthma is caused by excess mucus production in the lungs and the ingestion of dairy products is linked to increased mucus production... HOWEVER... this is not the case in all asthma sufferers and you'll find that the vast majority of asthma sufferers won't find this shocking news at all and already regulate their dairy intake (and will have done from a very early age). It is also unproven to say that milk CAUSES asthma - there are theorys that development of asthma could be related to a milk allergy but the majority consensus is that it is related to genetic mutation of goblet cells in the lungs. I have found not a shred of credible research to support the suggestion that milk causes asthma. (Also covers 'sinuses')

  Early sexual maturation/Early breast growth - I'm at a loss to explain this, again I've found no evidence whatsoever to support this. In fact, apart from your quotes I've found no suggestion of it either. Both of these when caused environmentally are due to exposure to oestrogen... as far as I'm aware (throw in here, breast cancer)

  Leukemia... hmm... ok... firstly may I make a point here? Leukemia is an umbrella name, it actually refers to a number of similar cancers but with varying causes - which are you linking milk to? Anyway, prove me wrong, but it is my understanding that this myth started because a number of types of Leukemia are caused by viruses and these viruses can be passed by milk. HOWEVER the Bovine Leukemia Virus' only effect on humans is succeptibility that dreaded...rhinovirus.

  ADHD - up to 80percent of cases of ADHD are thought to be genetic. Of the rest there's a lot of theorys but I'm yet to hear a milk related one (Well done on being a first) - diet control is common in management of ADHD however it's usually the removal of E numbers...

  Osteoperosis -  I can sort of see where this is coming from - excess calcium in the blood can cause bone reabsorption and ultimately bone loss when levents of PTH are too high due to vitamin D deficiency, however it goes both ways. You do need a certain amount of calcium as calcium deficiency can also cause osteoperosis. I'm lacking in evidence to support your theory again but even in this case it requires a vitamin D deficiency which most of us don't have. And you could argue it's not really milk that's doing it anyway.

  Arthritis - this is a very interesting one... actually the most damning to your claim. If you hadn't included this one it could be excusable. See, your anti milk people claim that there's a 'collosal amount of evidence linking milk to arthritis' however I happen to believe the people who have more of a vested interest in arthritis. The people to whom the outcome for milk doesn't matter - the people who need real, honest results to help prevent and cure something that can ruin lives. And those people say that milk can help prevent arthritis as it contains CLA - a fatty acid we can't produce and one that has been shown to block enzymes that trigger inflammation and can eventually lead to joint damage and... arthritis. Boom.

  Anaemia  - milk doesn't cause this... infant amaemia can be caused by keeping a child on a milk diet for too long - it's caused because there's no iron in the diet, not because the kid's drinking milk.

   

  So for me... it might not be the wonder drink some people try to make it out to be but as far as I'm concerned if I'm gonna cross the busy road every day to get to college, I might as well enjoy a splash of milk on my cereal... I'm not expecting health benefits - I just find it goes well with the cereal...

• menokki

  22 Sep 08, 21:58

  Originally posted by Display Name:

  I don't understand why people nowadays still drink milk.
  Not talk about the tainted milk in china, even untainted milk also not worth drinking.
  It is scientifically proven that only children below 3 years old has the enzyme to digest nutritions in milk, once a person reach 4 years and above, not only he has difficulty digesting the milk he drink, the milk will help in developing various disease including cancer and osteoporosis.
  There was a research shows that country that people used to drink milk has higher rate of osteoporosis than country that people don't drink milk. In those poor and undeveloped country or in my grandparents time, people's health is rather good, they never even hear about disease related to low density of bone structure like osteoporosis.
  But now, everywhere I go I can see young people carry a tongkat to support him to walk.
  I can list down another 10 disadvantages of drinking milk, but just excessive protein and osteoporosis are 2 reasons good enough for adult to stop drinking milk.
  
  I think if there is one who managed to overcome money attack from dairy company and convince the world to stop drinking milk, he deserve nobel prize. Why? because he solve the problem before it happen, he saves so many people suffer from these disease, he save the environment and improve people's health.
  I raise 2 hands to support this.

   

   

  What your are talking about is lactose tolerance or lactose intolerance (2 sides of the same coin). Lactose tolerance is genetic and therefore racial. Lactose tolerance is the ability of individuals to metabolize lactose in adulthood. It runs from a high percentage among whites (with the peak occuring in Sweden-95% lactose tolerant people) and lowest among East Asians (5% among Chinese, Japanese etc).

  Check out a wiki site for the complete table of peoples against lactose tolerance.

  As for osteophorosis, calcium ( which is found in copius amounts in milk) actually prevents it. There's anothet condition where too much calcium (doesnt necessarily translate to too much milk) causes brittle bones.

   

  I used to drink freah cow's milk (pasteurized of course) until I was about 10. That's when the government took away the dairy land from the few dairy farmers in Singapore. I still remember the milk walla coming to my house in his German type motocycle with the carraige at his side, full of freashly milked milk. Great times!

   

   

• Display Name

  23 Sep 08, 11:17

   

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  Contents to Sections Below Sites by Individuals Educational Institutions/News Media Reports Organizations Dairy Industry Commercial Sites Testing Products/Vendors Books Food Science Mailing Lists/Forums.Archives Sites by Individuals Go Dairy Free is a site on dairy free living put up by Anthony Fleming.   Nigel Dobson-Keeffe put up the first site on the Internet specifically for Milk Allergy. Milk Allergy and Lactose Intolerance is the entry page for the Milk Allergy support group based in Adelaide, Australia.   An introductory article on Lactose Intolerance by Ellen Eagan.   Eating without Casein. A Practical Primer for People with Milk Allergy put together by Beth Kevles. Has tips on how to cook and eat milk-free.   Steve Carper's Lactose Intolerance Clearinghouse is a large site. He is the author of books on lactose intolerance. He also has a blog.   Robert Cohen's site is notmilk.com. Probably the most vocal opponent of dairy consumption.   JoAnn Betten of the PaleoFood mailing list has collected many recipes. All have no dairy or other Neolithic foods.   Linda Blanchard has the story of how her daughter's ADHD has been alleviated by putting her on a milk-free diet. See ADHD and Living Milk-Free.   Kirsten Shurb has put up a 100% lactose free web page. Got Milked? is a page put up by Lucy. [now in archive.org]   There are some FAQs organized by the No-Milk mailing list.   Horchata from Chufa discusses the real thing - the original and ancient recipe made from the chufa nut (tiger nut).   A collection from the Net of milk substitute recipes. Now split into three files: Rice Milk/Horchata and Soy Milks and Nut Milks.   Alan Lewis's No cow's milk for me thanks! is UK's first and original site for people with a dairy allergy and intolerance. 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From the Museum of Science in San Francisco.   Does Milk Cause Prostrate Cancer? is a provocative study from Harvard Medical School shows that men who eat diary products regularly have a 30 percent greater chance of suffering prostate cancer than those who eat less than half a serving per day.   Cow's Milk Protein Antibodies, Risk of Diabetes is a recent paper from Finland showing that drinking cow's milk is associated with getting juvenile diabetes.   Cow's Milk May Raise Diabetes Risk In Some Children by Chris Marsden and David North is a news release on a study published in Diabetes.   Someone at the U. of Virginia has a page on Frequency and Distribution of Lactose Intolerance.   The Collected Net Articles of Dr. Kalle Reichelt commenting on the connection between gluten, casein, etc. and mental disease, autism, allergies, celiac sprue, etc.   This page has a detailed discussion of Lactose Intolerance, Congenital. It is from a database of articles on Mendelian Inheritance in Man from the National Center for Biotechnology Information (Johns Hopkins U.).   A page on Calcium Supplements. [now in archive.org]   Here are a bunch of Medline abstracts on Cow's Milk Intolerance. These are old.   [Ctrl-Home for Top, or Click Here]   Media Reports Breast Cancer and Dairy is a chat with author, scientist Jane Plant. She tells about her battle with breast cancer and how a dairy-free diet saved her life. [now in archive.org]   White Mischief is coming out of Australia. Discusses A1 milk and the disorders is could trigger, and A2 milk, which is supposed to prevent disease. [now in archive.org]   In Milk protein blamed for heart disease scientists believe a substance found in milk could be responsible for thousands of cases of heart disease world-wide.   In Researchers Determine That MS And Diabetes Are Closely Linked Diseases they point out the role cow milk protein plays as a risk factor in the development of both diseases for people who are genetically susceptible.   [Ctrl-Home for Top, or Click Here]   Organizations Intolerance of Cow's Milk and Chronic Constipation in Children concludes that in young children, chronic constipation can be a manifestation of intolerance of cow's milk. (Free registration required.)   Dairy Free UK is for day to day dairy-free living. People can share their experiences and give any advise they may have.   What's Wrong with Dairy Products? is an overview of the medical problems with dairy. Has four original articles. 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Has some discussion on Kosher labeling.   Healthtouch has two pages Lactose Intolerance? and Lactose Intolerance: How Is Nutrition Balanced?   The American Gastroenterological Association has a page on Lactose Intolerance.   [Ctrl-Home for Top, or Click Here]   Dairy Industry Moo Milk -- A dynamic adventure into the dairy industry tells the other side of the story.   Sodium Caseinate is sold by Prestige Proteins. They have a long list of processed foods where sodium caseinate lurks.   The National Dairy Council in the UK has a site promoting dairy.   Bozell Public Relations has put up Milk - it's on everybody's lips!. From the ad agency of the moustache campaign.   [Ctrl-Home for Top, or Click Here]   Commercial Sites VegSource.com has a Beyond Dairy & Calcium: The Truth About Diet and Bone Health by Stephen Walsh. Also at their site is Does Milk Do A Body Good? a Q&A with a Charles Attwood, MD. And Calcium Without the Cow, a page written by Dr. Attwood. And Milk "Best Calcium Source" for Girls? by Dr. Stephen Walsh. And Milk and Breast Cancer by Stephen Walsh, November 2001. And Milk Consumption and Prostate Cancer by Neal D. Barnard, M.D. Here's their take on Robert Cohen Beware of Robert Cohen aka the NotMilk Man (which you will find is a personal attack on Robert by Jeff Nelson and his buddy Walsh).   About.com Allergies Guide Judy Tidwell uncovers some of the disguises milk wears in Casein in Processed Foods & Products.   Nutramed has a site Children's Center -- Cows Milk Allergy in Children. Good overview.   Mercola used to have a page with an index of most of his no milk articles. But it no longer exists. So it is hard to find the articles. Some: Don't Drink Your Milk! argues against modern milk. Worrying About is on how T. Colin Campbell now argues how unhealthy milk drinking is. Also Pasteurized Milk and its Link to Autism, Part I, which has a few links at its bottom.   The AFPA has a health and fitness site with a good selection of articles on The Controversey on Dairy Products. Most from their site, a few from elsewhere.   Recipes Today has When Milk Doesn't Do A Body Good by Donna Stone. It describes the story of a couple of allergic infants and their first contact with milk.   Harmony Health Systems has the site Got Milk? How About Allergies?.   The Cooks Thesaurus web site has a page on Non-dairy Milks and Creams. [now in archive.org]   The Gastroenterology Group of Naples (FL) has pages on Lactose Intolerance and Gas.   Worrying about Milk in Discover Magazine is the story of T. Colin Campbell, a well-known vegetarian, and how he went from a milk drinker to being against milk. Includes quotes from his flawed China study. 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Site has no location, but they appear to be in Canada.   First Foods sells First Glace ice cream, a non-dairy frozen dessert which tastes just like original dairy ice cream. Made from oats.   Galaxy Nutritional Foods has a Vegan Brand with several dairy alternatives. Other products are lactose-free, but not casein-free. These people bought out Soyco Foods and the Soymage product.   Goodbaker has vegan gourmet baking mixes.   Health-eating.com has several Egg, Cheese, & Other Dairy Substitutes that they sell by mail order.   Lactolite is a lactose reduced milk, which is suitable for lactose intolerance sufferers, but still tastes like regular milk. The site contains some information on the product, though it is by no means the emphasis of the site.   Millmilk is a Swedish non dairy milk based on oats - for use both as a drink and in cooking. Comprehensive nutritional details and stockists.   Nature's Healthy Alternative has a line of spreadable cheese alternatives made from soy.   Neocate is an elemental infant formula for use in children with cow milk allergy or multiple food protein intolerance. Expensive.   The Chocolate Emporium has Parve Specialty Chocolates & Other Kosher Confections, most of which are dairy-free.   Riverland Products Company sells a non-dairy dip and cheesecake.   Road's End Organics has three macaroni and "cheese" products. All vegan.   SHS International, North American Office has information on several Neocate formulas, plus a product for adults.   With Soy Toy you can make your own fresh soymilk from dried beans.   Soya Fresh! is a multi-function milk maker. Also a raw hemp milk maker which makes milk from hemp, sunflower seeds, nuts, or a combination.   Tofutti has many substitutes that are 100% free of dairy. New is a cream cheese one.   Tufinit has a line of products made out of carob and other natural ingredients. Sold via the Internet only.   Turtle Mountain is an Oregon manufacturer of non-dairy frozen desserts. Distributed in the US and Canada.   Vance's Foods sells DariFree to the US market, and DariFreeEurope.com is their home page.   Vitamite100 has a line of lactose-free beverages that taste like milk. However, only the non-fat one is free of casein.   White Wave sells Silk Soy Milk and Silk Cultured Soy (e.g. Yogurt).   [Ctrl-Home for Top, or Click Here]   Books Russell Eaton has written The Milk Imperative claims to reveal exactly why dairy milk causes osteoporosis. You can also find it at Amazon.com and check its rank.   Robert Cohen has written a book entitled: Milk the Deadly Poison. This is a well-referenced hardcover book. Read reviews at Amazon.com.   Totally Dairy-Free Cooking by Louis Lanza. Lanza is the executive chef & co-owner of Josie's Restaurant & Juice Bar, NYC's premier dairy-free restaurant.   Lactose Limited is cookbook of recipes free of milk or milk by products. Read more about the book at the author's page.   CalciYum! is cookbook featuring calcium-rich dairy-free vegetarian recipes, authored by David and Rachelle Bronfman.   What’s to Eat? The Milk-Free, Egg-Free, Nut-Free Food Allergy Cookbook has recipes and menu suggestions.   [Ctrl-Home for Top, or Click Here]   Food Science Cows' milk, diabetes connection bolstered by N. Seppa points out that the evidence is building up against feeding milk-based formula to infants.   The U. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Dept. of Animal Sciences has a site on Lactation Biology.   The Dairy Science and Technology Department at the U. of Guelph, Canada, shows an in depth view of the chemistry and physics of dairy.   [Ctrl-Home for Top, or Click Here]   Mailing Lists/Forums/Archives There is a NO-MILK mailing list. 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• purpledragon84

  23 Sep 08, 14:19

  solve the coke problem.

  solve the cigarette problem.

  then move to the milk.

  fool.

• Jezmeister

  23 Sep 08, 21:36

  lol you're a bit of an idiot aren't you? lol (ts not purpledragon)

• purpledragon84

  24 Sep 08, 02:06

  it's scientifically proven that anyone who breathes dies..

  breathing is bad.. stop breathing now..