We are currently working on a project concerning the local music scene. And we have just 2 questions that we need help in.

1) What is your opinion in the saying that local artistes are too impatient in making a breakthrough thus eventually hindering their progress.

2) ( We have no intention of any sort to offend anyone & so, we ask anyone who answers this question to be open about it)

Do you think there is a race issue when Singaporeans do not support local bands/singers which are mainly made up of Malays/Philippinos.

Thank you!

local artists cannot make it

1. no. you first need to dissect the industry. in the chinese scene, singapore is relatively successful. tanya's recent award, ah du in china, etc. all points to a good pool of singapore talents recognized overseas and locally.  in the malays scene, i think singapore artiste is also relatively ok altho' i dun follow the scene well. it is the english artistes/bands that's struggling. as to whether they are impatient, i think not. some preservered but it is an uphill task if you have a general music population in singapore that is shallow-minded and think anything non-singapore is better, you have your work cut out for you. this could be compounded that our musicianship is also a bit lagging. you go listen to some of them play live and they suck.

2. i don't think so. when you play good music, the crowd will come.

btw, i support singapore music. i buy their cds when i can, go to gigs like baybeat to cheer some on, etc.

Originally posted by redDUST:

1. no. you first need to dissect the industry. in the chinese scene, singapore is relatively successful. tanya's recent award, ah du in china, etc. all points to a good pool of singapore talents recognized overseas and locally.  in the malays scene, i think singapore artiste is also relatively ok altho' i dun follow the scene well. it is the english artistes/bands that's struggling. as to whether they are impatient, i think not. some preservered but it is an uphill task if you have a general music population in singapore that is shallow-minded and think anything non-singapore is better, you have your work cut out for you. this could be compounded that our musicianship is also a bit lagging. you go listen to some of them play live and they suck.

2. i don't think so. when you play good music, the crowd will come.

U just did his homework for him .

Pick up a copy of 'Live' magazine, visit the pubs where there are live music acts, judge their quality for yourselves and talk to the musicians and editors. Many of them know that the market here is small but they still need to build up a following first,

Go to HMV and Gramaphone, and judge the albums by Electrico, Shirlyn Tan, Plain Sunset and Jack & Rai for yourselves. As with the live acts, you'll find that race has little to do with quality.

But first, you need to decide specifically what you're going to focus on. 'Local music scene' is just too vague - here you have amateurs and recreational musicians, and among the professional musicians there are Chinese acts, English local acts and expat musicians, and they have had various levels of success.

1) They are so impatient to join a music company when their foundations and stuff like co-ordination and vocals are so bad. No wonder they can't make it.

2) I don't think so. To me, as long as you have the potential to become successful, who cares about your race and nationality? (:

1. I can't be too sure about question one because I don't pay much attention to the local music scene.

2. Nope. I think lots of Singaporeans don't support local music, period. Regardless of race. I mean, my personal opinion is that music from overseas is so much better. Like for example, from America. So the thing is, if we can support music overseas, why should we support local music? Therefore, lots of us don't. Well, I don't anyway. And it has nothing to do with race at all. I simply like music from American artists more. (:

Originally posted by tinker bell:

We are currently working on a project concerning the local music scene. And we have just 2 questions that we need help in.

1) What is your opinion in the saying that local artistes are too impatient in making a breakthrough thus eventually hindering their progress.

 

2) ( We have no intention of any sort to offend anyone & so, we ask anyone who answers this question to be open about it)

Do you think there is a race issue when Singaporeans do not support local bands/singers which are mainly made up of Malays/Philippinos.

 

 

Thank you!

1. The local music scene can be classified into two distinct categories..i.e Doing so as their career and as their hobby/pastime. Singers like Taufik,Stefanie,Tanya,JJ and others normally manage to break into the market because they are managed by recording companies full time with each having their own minder, make up unit and manager. According to the budget of the recording company, these artists may have to produce 1 or 2 albums every year. Hence, it is wrong when you say that local artistes are impatient because they are not given enough opportunities to do so.

2. I think you have to delve in the local scene because the local music is so diversified! All chinese English rock bands include Ronin, Electrico, West Grand Boulevard, Penn State, Karl Maka, MarchTwelve, Deviant and Slumsville. All Malays English bands include Airsick Pilots, Acid9 (ahem ahem), Plain Sunset, One Men Army, Forced Vomit, Fish tank and firefight.. Then got the ang moh ones like the Saw Loser..then got the mixed races band like The Observatory, Flybar, Allura, Blind Meets Mute and Breed Her Agony..Then the indian ones like Raksasa, Shurva, Sarganis, KellBathur and Omm...there are so many gigs going on..such as Baybeats and the Rockstar Collective Fundraiser concert to raise awareness of such bands...

P.S. I'm an organiser of such gigs..anything can pm me..

thanks for e responses so far!

just to clarify, the local music scene we are focusing on the English local acts. Mostly on those budding talents and musicians who are currently in a band. (think Electrico/ Sleeq).

And yeah, in what way are they impatient, and in your opinion, why? Do they only care about the instant fame and glory?

for qns 2, for different races, are there any difference in the way they sing that cause difference in support? or is it simply the community?

Originally posted by tinker bell:

thanks for e responses so far!

just to clarify, the local music scene we are focusing on the English local acts. Mostly on those budding talents and musicians who are currently in a band. (think Electrico/ Sleeq).

And yeah, in what way are they impatient, and in your opinion, why? Do they only care about the instant fame and glory?

for qns 2, then why and how is it possible dat the 2 Singapore Idols are both Malays? Are there any difference in the way they sing?

the two idols are voted by the public leh zzz

Originally posted by Master -_-:

1. The local music scene can be classified into two distinct categories..i.e Doing so as their career and as their hobby/pastime. Singers like Taufik,Stefanie,Tanya,JJ and others normally manage to break into the market because they are managed by recording companies full time with each having their own minder, make up unit and manager. According to the budget of the recording company, these artists may have to produce 1 or 2 albums every year. Hence, it is wrong when you say that local artistes are impatient because they are not given enough opportunities to do so.

2. I think you have to delve in the local scene because the local music is so diversified! All chinese English rock bands include Ronin, Electrico, West Grand Boulevard, Penn State, Karl Maka, MarchTwelve, Deviant and Slumsville. All Malays English bands include Airsick Pilots, Acid9 (ahem ahem), Plain Sunset, One Men Army, Forced Vomit, Fish tank and firefight.. Then got the ang moh ones like the Saw Loser..then got the mixed races band like The Observatory, Flybar, Allura, Blind Meets Mute and Breed Her Agony..Then the indian ones like Raksasa, Shurva, Sarganis, KellBathur and Omm...there are so many gigs going on..such as Baybeats and the Rockstar Collective Fundraiser concert to raise awareness of such bands...

P.S. I'm an organiser of such gigs..anything can pm me..

Blind Meets Mute, Breed Her Agony all gonna perform at Dover ITE!

lets take a look at the music scene in singapore today. who leads it? who directs it? the sad truth is that its "owned" by a handful of people. and if you are "connected" enough, you can "make it". the trouble is that the local bands today persue music to acheive the illusion of "fame and fortune" or in other words, the rockstar dream.

take a step back and try to understand what music is all about. its about life, passion, expression, commitment and so much more. the idea of "over night success" and "right here right now" is something that only happens in the movies.

i believe its safe to say that local artists are not impatient. they just need to get their priorities straight. they need to sit down as a group and think "what are our goals, our dreams. how are we going to get there, what must we do to make it work, what are the steps we must take and by what means should we use." these are very important questions that local artists are not asking.

another thing that i have seen in recent years is the types of "fans" some bands have. what is a "fan"? a true "fan" is someone that you win over through your music, not the amount of friends or how popular you might be. i see bands with popular kids as their members getting bigger recognition even if their music tends to be a bit boring or average. this shouldnt be the case. all that is happening here is their "fans" are nothing more than their friends. the music scene will not grow this way. i personally feel that the fans in singapore should venture out and discover new bands. there are many talented bands waiting to be discovered if the fans would not only support their friend's bands, but also support other good bands.