wei, miken80...u hor, want to
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abolish ns?
one bomb here one bomb there, sg finito, rite? agree, that iz why we must not allow bombs to drop on us. noe y we got strongest airforce in the region? to stop enemy's bomb delivery systems lah. u see, if they got chance drop bombs, in psa, in shenton way, we finito oredi.
u said invading army very easi to take us cos we small small rite? agreed
that is why we must invade them b4 they invade us. how many times hve u executed attack exercices in ns..u noe..the types u chaaarge and capture objectives wans. so many times until cannot count rite? now, how many times u did defence, those dig trenches and defend types. onli few times rite. so why are we training for attacks so often?
some more. sg is built up wif tall buildings rite? then how come our training is in forested tekong, mandai jungle, brunei jungle, taiwan's mountain, australia's outback, thailand's wasteland and not in built up mockup area? even the few times we do train in fibua, those are only 3-4 storey buildings. where got come close to hdb or shenton way. u mean we do not want to defend these ? exactly. cos we are not fighting in our own territory, dig?
someone replied u that enemy will not bomb psa, shentonway cos these are assets they want to preserve after capturing as we hve no natural resourses. wrong too.
war is a senseless illogical thing. when china invaded vietnam about 20 years ago, for what reason. deng xiao ping said was to teach them a lesson. sure enuff china withdrew after inflicting damage without wanting their assets. Indonesia sent commandoes to bomb singapore in the 60's for no other reason than we wanted to merge wif malaysia. bosnian war, where got grabbing of assets? its just plain racial thing against the albanians. cud this happen here? Habibe said we are a small red dot in the malay sea. u not scared meh?
when boys of ns age whom are most vulnerable to rebellous nature like joining secret societies, drug experimentation and all sorts of unwise lures, we put them in an organisation that teaches team work, leadership qualities, IT skills for admin nsmen, driving skills for drivers, medical skills for medics, engineering skills for combat engineers and most important, social skills for interacting wif all sorts of singaporeans. perhaps, this is why our nation has progress so rapidly.
without ns, we will be living in constant fear, ya, miken said employ mercenary. if investors dun come cos no security, u think we can afford mercenaries as if they are effective?
look at kuwait. rich little country like us, employ mercenaries, and when iraq invaded them, where the mercenries go? all disappeared. why must they fight? they got no mother or children to defend nor assets. take salary only wat, why must die for u? look, u, a singaporean also dun want do ns. u expect others to defend u? c'mon,, who u kidding.
Majullah Singapura
ahem, now i go back to http://www.my77thstreet.com to disturb pink fairy liow..lol
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I like the words u use to xpress how u view singapore.U really know alot of History and so u are able to see the overview of Asia from the past till now.
But others donn get the idea of What i want to pass the actual msg across.Not the true meaning of Ns but What we take to take on other crtisims.
What if i mean what if one day a missile out from no-way like the usa acccidently bomb the china abbassy drop on to singapore and the country jus say sorry and pay us money as compensation.
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miken80. no offence intended in both postings
missile accidently drop on us? not possible.
we are not in a warzone like bosnia, during the bombing of the chinese embassy. So if missile drop on us, it is clearly a declaration of war and cannot be an accident.
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Ruth, dun geddit. Who is stud and nets? :p
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They are laughing at your spelling!
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waaaaaahhhh!! geeweez boy, neber knew u so learned wan. real or bluff...hehehe...giggle giggle
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Anyone shares a different view?
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WEI!!!! singaporeans so apathetic wan meh? no dessenting views or at least giv some comments lah!!
wah lau. like dat we where got future leaders?
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There's more comments in No NS for men thread. How not to comment when I read that kind of thread? Blood boiling, patriotic feelings rising......Originally posted by Geeweez:WEI!!!! singaporeans so apathetic wan meh? no dessenting views or at least giv some comments lah!!
wah lau. like dat we where got future leaders?
wake up. EVERYBODY!!!!
On the view of "suddenly got one bomb drop from the sky", it's not possible within the multi-layer coverage of our Air Defence Systems which covered areas way beyond the territorial limits of Singapore. Our E2C-hawkeye aircraft in the sky can "see" hundreds of km away when they are 10000 m in the sky. So fighters will be send out to intercept whatever unfriendly incoming threats. Also our medium range Surface-to-Air Missiles eg. I-hawk missles can take out targets 40km away. After that will be the Rapier missiles which can hunt down targets 8km away then will be the Mistral missiles which can take out targets 5km away. If there's lots of target, the P-Star radar can simultaneously track and hunt down 20 targets. So please be confident of the Air Force The government of Singapore won't leave anything to chances 
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WaaaHHH!! Ding. Its wonderful to noe there are pple who still care and be bothered to 2 be enlightened like u.Originally posted by Ding:There's more comments in No NS for men thread. How not to comment when I read that kind of thread? Blood boiling, patriotic feelings rising......
On the view of "suddenly got one bomb drop from the sky", it's not possible within the multi-layer coverage of our Air Defence
Systems which covered areas way beyond the territorial limits of Singapore. Our E2C-hawkeye aircraft in the sky can "see" hundreds of km away when they are 10000 m in the sky. So fighters will be send out to intercept whatever unfriendly incoming threats. Also our medium range Surface-to-Air Missiles eg. I-hawk missles can take out targets 40km away. After that will be the Rapier missiles which can hunt down targets 8km away then will be the Mistral missiles which can take out targets 5km away. If there's lots of target, the P-Star radar can simultaneously track and hunt down 20 targets. So please be confident of the Air Force The government of Singapore won't leave anything to chances
Wish there are more of u Any dissenting comments anybody? Let's debate.
Then we can debrief. No lah, de-brief is not taking out your briefs lah. Chey!!
For light hearted and magical forum, visit http://www.my77thstreet.com
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You're welcomed Glad that there are people like you around too!
Thought that Singaporeans not so concern about their country but its only bcos they didn't let it be known. When the time comes many will stand up and be counted. It's not the size of the country that matters but rather the number of Singaporeans that feel that they matters. I m born and bred here and I will never desert it in times of need.
Like my mum who reacted strongly whenever neighbouring countries like Indonesia & Malaysia makes insensitive comments/threats on our country, I too feel a deep sense of pride and patriotism to stand up for my country and speak up for it when I see unjust remarks. Whenever I go to other countries(tour,backpacking,climbing expeditions) and was asked where I came from, I will tell people that I m from Singapore with pride and my head held high. Seems that a number of foreigners that I met had a narrow perception of Singapore(being a "fine" city and people get cane for everything!) so being the person I m, will confidently tell them otherwise and to go Singapore to take a look for themselves
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do agree wif u that we must stand proud of our country despite its warts and pimples. anyway, where got countries without blemishes wan.
but sometimes i am embarrased by the attitude displayed by sg pple whilst overseas either out of sheer ignorance or just plainly socially unskillful or simply down to earth rude.
there was this posting by a malaysian in http://www.my77thstreet.com about this subject which i must, wif embarrassment, admit that it is true.
heard it for myself overseas comments such as " tis restaurant so dirty, in sg hor, govt will shut it down oledy."
" sooooo smelly this drain, not like sg so clean"
" ooooooo, service so slow hor, in sg arr, all kena complaint to boss liow."
" traffic jams everywhere, y they dun like sg impose erp?"
and the comparisons go on and on and on....
so, don't u think this will make pple angry of us? i bet some of us here are guilty of tis misdemeanour, don't we?
one thing leads to another, pple think we arrogant. then tink we got money tat's y arrogant. then when they kena crisis, since we brag so much, but did not help much, will lead to resentment, jealousy, then anger, which was shown by mahathir, habbibe and now gus dur. this will be dangerous for no matter how strong we are , we are still a small country.
for those that said that un, or usa or china will help, that will be too late cos as long as a shot or a bomb is landed, investors will flee, financial market will collapse, assets destroyed. when will we recover is yet to be ascertain and i am tokking about a bomb or a shot is fired and not even about an all out war. lets put it this way lah, someone points a gun at u during robbery, u think police will help? of course they do. by the time they get here, u are either relieved of your belongings or lay dead on the flor like salted fish. so, cut out the wishful thinking ok?
we can only rely on ourselves and be vigilant all the times. if our own pple complain about national service and dun want to serve and protect ourselves, do u actually think other pple will do so for us when they hve no families here or properties to protect? fat hopes eh? since we are small, its only natural that we will be bullied by our bigger neighbours. this is the inevitable fact of nature and no one can change it, sadly........however, we can prevent it from getting worse and that is to be ready to defend ourself.
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Hey, I can't go to my77thstreet.com. Tried clicking the url address u showed but can't get in.
On ur point about undesirable behaviour in other countries. I agree totally. One shouldn't critisize the host country they are in. My views are that I do as the roman do when I m in other countries. Be open and receptive to their way of living and try to assimilate urself into the surrounding. Part of the aspect of visiting other places are to experience their way of life mah Visiting other countries widen ur horizon and broaden ur world n views of things. U will be more appreciative of what u have in Singapore but do be sensitive to others and keep ur criticism to urself. Juz appreciate it blissfully, no need to look down or show pity. I m sure you would not like to hear criticism on Singapore too. Let's make our world a better place to live in. Peace 
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eh, how come cannot see my reply to Ding's posting again? beri puzzle, sometimes can sometimes cannt.
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nok nok !! geeweez boi, u here?..giggle giggle
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yo ding ! *wave wave* mi relli enjoyed yaking wif ya
ya lor. mi also can't get into http://www.my77thstreet.com 2 day
down there veri hilarious wan. like u go into one of enid blyton's magical fairy tales. pple there all acting out there nick in fantasy. all in the name of relax lah.
like that pink fairy abve lor. always fluttering around casting friendly spells for pple wif her good friend the white witch.
then got this guy whom as long as bgr is being discussed, he will put in his 2 cents worth and he called himself the sex anal_lyst ( notice the play of word in anal...) lol
got friendly vampires like tianyou and mah siow ling. then got prince charming, no he changed his name to prince cham liow when pple tell him he is not charming and henceforth his postings relli cham cham wans..hahahaha.
although i dun post there often, but got drop in everyday to read the farnie postings for stress relief lah. they relli imagined they are the characters as depicted by their nicks. roflol i'm sure they enjoy the fantasy 2. mebbe, u can join in the fantasy by depicting yerself as a futuristic airforce pilot. but i go there as my plain ownself, geeweez lor, as i do not hve such fertile imagination. but belif u me, i m fertile sexually...lol
their webmaster said sometime last week dat they are going 2 improve the site, so they may hve taken it out to do it. if not, then the server must be down. if so, being pubic...oops...public holidays until tuesday, the site may be down until then
until then, hve yerself a veri meri christmas, ding -
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Nice talking to you too!
See you around and Merry Xmas Geeweez
Juz went to street77.com to take a look. Will drop a few posts if possible
Hi there Ruthie Never see your posts in SIM Bowling Club for awhile. Busy huh? Take care!!!
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Ya, Ding, saw your postings in http://www.my77thstreet.com
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Ya lor Don't know how she compose that post one
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she got magic wat. no need to compose. just wave her magic wand and...... prrrriiicck...nooo, my gosh....ppprrrriiiinnngg...ahhh, then post appear lor.
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one more ting ding. u said u did'nt noe how pink fairy composed that post. which one? i'd like to check it out and see if i can also roflol...
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The one posted by the proud malaysianOriginally posted by Geeweez:one more ting ding. u said u did'nt noe how pink fairy composed that post. which one? i'd like to check it out and see if i can also roflol...
Ur's quite funny too
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Ding arr. Pink Fairy replied to your question on where she pinky liow under the proud malasian thread.
she oso asked yours also pink arr, or are u pink or wadeva lah ...hahahaha