City harvest invitation!!
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So did CHC do something wrong?
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bloody hell
wasted 15 pages
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You don't know?!?!?!?!Originally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:So did CHC do something wrong?
This Thread is in vain. All we typed and posted. You didnt see!!!!!! Wah lau.
The power of the church.
Let me misquote this verse dedicated to Jamie only:
Blessed are the blind!
Blessed are the faithful to Chc and blessed are the ignorance to truths... For they shall inherit the kingdom of God!!!! -
we've been going on for so many pages and you still don't get the messageOriginally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:So did CHC do something wrong? i guess no matter what we say some ignoramuses just wont get it.. -
Some of the Medium and "Gong tau" antics portrayed in CHC are more Indian cantrips than Christianity.
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read before you post..Originally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:So did CHC do something wrong? -
the problem is.. when we say something about chc.. we have proof.. but what does chc have to say about other churches?? nothing?Originally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:That is true for some churches to have false prophets.
I apologies for the mistake that I made for makeing the sentence hard to read.
What I waqnna say is, some of the things CHC does, may look weird or stange to me. Whatever it is, don't condemn CHC. You also never see CHC people condemn other churches right? It is best not to say anything. -
I deny that your so-called 'church' has any authentic mission from God; and I deny your claim that your 'pastor' has any sort of authority legitimately to speak on God's behalf.Originally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:So what is that you ask?
If don't close, then you want everybody to attack each other ah?
I have had prepared what kiond of reply your gonna reply me, so it does'not matter so much.
You think, if CHC is a church called by God to work in this way and asked p.s Kong to fulfill the purpose. And know you are attacking CHC, it means you are telling GOD that is should ask p.s Kong to think, behave in this way.
Your dancing in the aisles (and the other antics you engage in during the services of your so-called 'church') are reprehensible to me; and I am sure that they serve to defame Christ in the eyes of the unbelieving.
You have mistake your carnal exuberance for true worship, and you are utterly deceived in thinking that any criticism of your so-called 'church' or 'pastor' would be tantamount to a criticism of God Himself.
You have the shameless audacity to tell us that you 'dance' during your services, do you?
Truly shameless..I am at a loss for words.
I will do my utmost to warn everyone I know, about your ridiculous 'church'.
Ben
Ps. Fugue, be on your guard in relation to 'Christians' like them. -
Wahhhh.. steady pom pee pee... solid.... I agree utmostly....Originally posted by MrBach:I deny that your so-called 'church' has any authentic mission from God; and I deny your claim that your 'pastor' has any sort of authority legitimately to speak on God's behalf.
Your dancing in the aisles (and the other antics you engage in during the services of your so-called 'church') are reprehensible to me; and I am sure that they serve to defame Christ in the eyes of the unbelieving.
You have mistake your carnal exuberance for true worship, and you are utterly deceived in thinking that any criticism of your so-called 'church' or 'pastor' would be tantamount to a criticism of God Himself.
You have the shameless audacity to tell us that you 'dance' during your services, do you?
Truly shameless..I am at a loss for words.
I will do my utmost to warn everyone I know, about your ridiculous 'church'.
Ben
Ps. Fugue, be on your guard in relation to 'Christians' like them. -
Why does it 'look weird or strange' to you?Originally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:That is true for some churches to have false prophets.
I apologies for the mistake that I made for makeing the sentence hard to read.
What I waqnna say is, some of the things CHC does, may look weird or stange to me. Whatever it is, don't condemn CHC. You also never see CHC people condemn other churches right? It is best not to say anything.
Why should it be 'best not to say anything' if what seems 'weird or strange to me' is defamatory of the cause of Christ?
I could care less that you don't 'condemn other churches'; what matters is that you do what you do and then claim that Christ sanctions it or authorises it or otherwise approves of it; and yet when a certain prominent representative of your 'church' sees fit to appear in public (albeit not in Singapore, perhaps) whilst clad in immodest attire, your church does not appear to take her to task for her conduct in this regard or issue a public condemnation of her conduct in this regard.
Let me ask you a point-blank question: does your 'church' teach that the aforesaid person's conduct in the aforesaid regard HAS THE APPROVAL OF CHRIST?
YES OR NO?
DON'T EVADE THE QUESTION
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woa..someone just got post-raped.
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Up to your to think loh. I got nothing to say abolut your thinking. If you think you are a true christian, you should'nt be posting here.
Really waste my breathe. If you don't believe, then forget it.
If you are a christian, and furthermore you condemn CHC. You think you really is a christian. You are just a talk big no action people. Did God say you can condemn people. Did God say it is right to condemn people/church?
You just don't like to dance,does'nt mean it is wrong to dance before HIM
You are serving a living God and not a dead God.
The action you do say a lot. -
Originally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:Up to your to think loh. I got nothing to say abolut your thinking. If you think you are a true christian, you should'nt be posting here.
Really waste my breathe. If you don't believe, then forget it.
If you are a christian, and furthermore you condemn CHC. You think you really is a christian. You are just a talk big no action people. Did God say you can condemn people. Did God say it is right to condemn people/church?
You just don't like to dance,does'nt mean it is wrong to dance before HIM
You are serving a living God and not a dead God.
The action you do say a lot.
Oki doki. -
wah ,u saying all non b. goes to hell
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wow.. so true christians cannot post here? so you're not a true christian too? whats wrong with condemning? you mean christians cant condemn? well then.. did god say you CANNOT condemn people/church? what the Fuck is wrong with you. wow, christians deprived of so many things? cant condemn about anything, cant criticise or give their self opinion on anything? then why the Fuck do you want to make life so hard for yourself by being a christian if you cant do all those?Originally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:Up to your to think loh. I got nothing to say abolut your thinking. If you think you are a true christian, you should'nt be posting here.
Really waste my breathe. If you don't believe, then forget it.
If you are a christian, and furthermore you condemn CHC. You think you really is a christian. You are just a talk big no action people. Did God say you can condemn people. Did God say it is right to condemn people/church?
You just don't like to dance,does'nt mean it is wrong to dance before HIM
You are serving a living God and not a dead God.
The action you do say a lot. -
MrBach
You think you are great or what? By telling others, you are backstabbing and furthermore. You can be a great stabber better. YOU DO NOT HAVE PROOF. If have, show me all the documents you got. -
tell god to speak to me, if he does i belive in him that chc is clean
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Dont know why. But the first word that comes to mind when someone mentions CHC, is not christian. It's some other word
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Ya ok. CHC! CHC! CHC! CHC! IS THE BEST! Happy now?Originally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:Up to your to think loh. I got nothing to say abolut your thinking. If you think you are a true christian, you should'nt be posting here.
Really waste my breathe. If you don't believe, then forget it.
If you are a christian, and furthermore you condemn CHC. You think you really is a christian. You are just a talk big no action people. Did God say you can condemn people. Did God say it is right to condemn people/church?
You just don't like to dance,does'nt mean it is wrong to dance before HIM
You are serving a living God and not a dead God.
The action you do say a lot.
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i am utterly disappointed to tell you that you are a retardOriginally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:MrBach
You think you are great or what? By telling others, you are backstabbing and furthermore. You can be a great stabber better. YOU DO NOT HAVE PROOF. If have, show me all the documents you got. -
Wouldn't singapore become hell then?[/b]Originally posted by vito_corleone:can you quote me any verse from the bible that actually justifies or sanctions these ambitious aspirations and extravaggant actions? or are you just trying to turn singapore into a mega-chc colony? -
Maybe you expected too much from a chc devoutOriginally posted by coffeeortea:i am utterly disappointed to tell you that you are a retard -
Originally posted by blunt_knife:
with such ridiculously priced cars, houses, NS and government control..isnt it already somewhat a hell?
Wouldn't singapore become hell then?[/b] -
so what if he thinks he's great?Originally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:MrBach
You think you are great or what? By telling others, you are backstabbing and furthermore. You can be a great stabber better. YOU DO NOT HAVE PROOF. If have, show me all the documents you got. at least he's not mentally deficient. -
1) I won't reply to your comment about how 'true Christians shouldn't be posting here' because I think that it is patently ridiculous.Originally posted by dO|pH|n3 a.k.a JaMiE:Up to your to think loh. I got nothing to say abolut your thinking. If you think you are a true christian, you should'nt be posting here.
Really waste my breathe. If you don't believe, then forget it.
If you are a christian, and furthermore you condemn CHC. You think you really is a christian. You are just a talk big no action people. Did God say you can condemn people. Did God say it is right to condemn people/church?
You just don't like to dance,does'nt mean it is wrong to dance before HIM
You are serving a living God and not a dead God.
The action you do say a lot.
Suffice it to say, there is nothing about this forum that in and of itself would suggest to me that it would be wrong if I were to 'post here'; just as there is nothing that would be in principle wrong with my communicating with persons who may not agree me with on every issue.
2) I am not going to judge anyone in a way in which it might be reserved to God alone to judge him (and that would be to judge him as regards the state of his soul, with a view to deciding whether or not he has been numbered amongst the elect); but I am certainly going to judge the moral quality of his deeds.
Christ has asked us to be wary of the false prophets, and to test them by their fruits; and I submit that testing them in this way would require us to examine carefully the claims that they make for themselves to represent Christ, and to examine as well the moral quality of whatever they do or sanction.
So God certainly has told us that we can and should engage in sifting the true from the false; and it follows therefore that if 'CHC' does not authentically represent Christ (that is, we believe that it fails to represent Him because of what we perceive is the morally and theologically objectionable character of its practices and teachings), we would then be bound to expose 'CHC' as an organisation that has inaccurately styled itself as a 'church'.
3) So if I object to your dancing before God, would that imply that I think of God as 'dead', as opposed to 'living'?
There is nothing in principle wrong with dancing when it is considered as a form of artistic expression; but the sort of indecorous dancing that occurs in your sanctuary can hardly be considered to be a specimen of authentic artistic expression.
Moreover, even if it is in itself morally legitimate for a person spontaneously to peform a dance (say, upon being told that the woman he has proposed to, has finally agreed to marry him), I believe nonetheless that there are contexts in which it would be immoral for him to engage in this activity and that one of these contexts would certainly be the very public context of a sanctuary wherein Christians have assembled to worship God.
In such a context, the kind of dancing you engage in will not be just witnessed by God Himself, but also by the people by whom you should be surrounded; more particularly, the sort of music which elicits this dancing (and the character itself of the dancing in question) makes it evident to any reasonable person that this whole business of 'dancing before God' which you and your 'church' sanction, is very much an affair of the senses: specifically, an affair of providing and then glutting your senses with so rapidly changing and bewilderingly vast an array of auditory and visual stimuli, that you find yourself carried over with your carnal exuberance into forms of behaviour that are likely to strike the cursory observer as unbecomingly sensual, but which you yourself would want to present to him as an expression and indeed index of your 'holiness' and your 'love of God'.
4) You want evidence, do you?
The evidence is to be had in the form of your various postings here and in the form as well of publicly accessible information about your church, its teachings and the way it conducts its services.
Finally, YOU HAVE YET TO RESPOND TO MY DIRECT QUESTION (WHICH ITSELF IS BASED ON A PIECE OF IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE).
WAS THE PUBLIC DRESSING OF A PROMINENT REPRESENTATIVE OF 'CHC' (i.e. the dress in which she was photograped, with the relevant photographs appearing in the media) A SIN OR NOT?
WAS SHE DRESSING HERSELF UP FOR GOD?
PLEASE STOP EVADING THE QUESTION; ALL OF US IN THIS FORUM WANT TO SEE YOU ANSWER IT.
Ben