underage sex, footballers may be spare jailed time
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http://www.asiaone.com/st/st_20051111_352062.html
The four footballers must be real happy. Why are they so special? They are going to represent singapore.
EVen though many have been jailed for underage sex, it seems lucky that these four footballers may be spared the jailed time.
Every case for years have all kinds of valid pleads for leniency for underage sex. From ignorance to being trick and so on. Many offenders all have good background and so on. So even unlucky appeal get double.
To me now, it seems like prosecutors getting soft on underage sex. If read carefully, they seem to suggest the four really innocent and the under age girl is the guilty one. All underage sex cases are like this, but the judges jailed the offenders big time.
If they get lieniency, it will set a new preceeding that underage sex can be reduce to a small matter, not to mention having a law to penalise under 18 sex for money.
Represent singapore does have its advantages. -
they should b punished. zhi fa fan fa... so wat they represent sgp, only brings a bad name for singapore only
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where got say no jail?? the news say the judge will wait until after their three week probation and then look at the probation officer's report then pass the sentence
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Throw the girl into a home too.
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quote from news/
Yesterday, after hearing pleas from their lawyers, Mr Vijay Kumar and Mr Surian Sidambaram, District Judge Wong Choon Ning called for a probation report for each of them, raising the possibility that they might avoid prison.
Explaining her decision, the judge said she noted the youths' tender age and spotless criminal record.
'All four are youthful offenders and they have absolutely clean records... and this is their first brush with the law,' she said.
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In fact most of those jailed previously for underage sex have cleaner or no record than them.
They are no diifferet from those jailed and i find it very strange that seems like the story get them off the hook not to tarnish their record so as to represent singapore. -
actually i think they should really go and review the law abotu underage sex esp when the girl really is devil or never reveal/lie about her age.........Originally posted by AF2005:http://www.asiaone.com/st/st_20051111_352062.html
The four footballers must be real happy. Why are they so special? They are going to represent singapore.
EVen though many have been jailed for underage sex, it seems lucky that these four footballers may be spared the jailed time.
Every case for years have all kinds of valid pleads for leniency for underage sex. From ignorance to being trick and so on. Many offenders all have good background and so on. So even unlucky appeal get double.
To me now, it seems like prosecutors getting soft on underage sex. If read carefully, they seem to suggest the four really innocent and the under age girl is the guilty one. All underage sex cases are like this, but the judges jailed the offenders big time.
If they get lieniency, it will set a new preceeding that underage sex can be reduce to a small matter, not to mention having a law to penalise under 18 sex for money.
Represent singapore does have its advantages.
but then i doubt its the case here they just trying to come ot with some bovine manure of an excuse stupid legal system and dunno who was saying aout corruption free etc............. -
The girls should be sent to juvenile detention too.
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i hope so too, if not they will think they can get away with many sex tricks and law only punish the persons who screw her. Not enough money report police.Originally posted by LazerLordz:The girls should be sent to juvenile detention too. -
Shocked to hear that they may not be jailed cos as far as I remember, those who are convicted of having sex wif a minor, and in this case a 12-yr old gir, will be jailed rite? This is statutory rape.
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even worse statuatory "4 man gang" rape. No need lawyers to argue or even consideration from probation officers , as long it goes inside the underage girl, its statuatory rape. I think this case will go towards more leniency because of the footballer status. Crimes of such crimes usually involves youths growing up and are usually the same ages as the 4. For the judges to twist it soft means our judicial can have favourism on who's who. All the judges over the years so far treat such cases so seriously, not even towards leniency as read from news over the years.Originally posted by KKK84:Shocked to hear that they may not be jailed cos as far as I remember, those who are convicted of having sex wif a minor, and in this case a 12-yr old gir, will be jailed rite? This is statutory rape.
i hope the judges know what they are doing. if not uncle Yong will double their sentences if he sees sentences less than those that he give jailed time previously for same offence. -
one of them frm my sec sch. normal tech student. come to sch bring nothing one. den go ITE College.
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absolutely nonsensical....
represent s'pore means they r big farks?
does it mean dat anyone dat represent s'pore can anyhw?
they shld b treated juz like any others... -
kids nowadays so happening
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"footballers". news print footballers. not just any youths. anyway they are old enough to know the crime they committed. ITE and somemore have one in poly. What can be noted is the judge says she noted the youths' tender age and spotless criminal record.
'All four are youthful offenders and they have absolutely clean records... and this is their first brush with the law,' she said.
so are many who have fallen into underage sex charges. Strange judge. -
Agree...Originally posted by AF2005:"footballers". news print footballers. not just any youths. anyway they are old enough to know the crime they committed. ITE and somemore have one in poly. What can be noted is the judge says she noted the youths' tender age and spotless criminal record.
'All four are youthful offenders and they have absolutely clean records... and this is their first brush with the law,' she said.
so are many who have fallen into underage sex charges. Strange judge.
These are only mitigating grounds good enough to plead for lighter sentences... Exempt from jail? Can the judge/DPP explain themselves?
Oh yah, it's not just statutory rape here... Harlow, it's 'roasting'!!! And I'm pretty sure the chance of ALL FOUR of them to plead ignorance to the law is ZERO...
Offside... BEEEEPPPP!!!! -
to be fair to us, men, they should be spared for two reasons.
they are only teens; the girl seduced them. -
both shld b dealt wif equally like any other offenders...Originally posted by dragg:to be fair to us, men, they should be spared for two reasons.
they are only teens; the girl seduced them.
representin s'pore or nt shldn't even b a factor in considerin their punishment... -
can uncle yong jail the judges too? for taking liberties with the law or somethignOriginally posted by AF2005:even worse statuatory "4 man gang" rape. No need lawyers to argue or even consideration from probation officers , as long it goes inside the underage girl, its statuatory rape. I think this case will go towards more leniency because of the footballer status. Crimes of such crimes usually involves youths growing up and are usually the same ages as the 4. For the judges to twist it soft means our judicial can have favourism on who's who. All the judges over the years so far treat such cases so seriously, not even towards leniency as read from news over the years.
i hope the judges know what they are doing. if not uncle Yong will double their sentences if he sees sentences less than those that he give jailed time previously for same offence. -
no one is saying that the sentence should be harsh or that men should be punished, at least not in this case, seems every one is complainging about why they get preferential treatmentOriginally posted by dragg:to be fair to us, men, they should be spared for two reasons.
they are only teens; the girl seduced them. -
in past cases were teens jailed?
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quoted from link http://www.getforme.com/teenyboppers.htm
from midway to bottom page on site. you have to go to site for details.
national serviceman was on 6 May 2004 jailed for six months for having sex with a 11-year-old girl in 2002. xxxx, 19, met the girl in September 2002. The girl, now in secondary one, is believed to be the youngest involved in such a case here. She became pregnant and was admitted to a hospital where the foetus was aborted in May 2003. (Straits Times 8 May 2004) (3)
A teenager was jailed for four months and fined S$20,000 for having sex with a 15-year-old girl, a secondary 3 student. xxxx, 17, of Geylang Serai Vocational Training Centre, had been sentenced by the Juvenile Court and placed on probation for a similar offence with another girl. (Straits Times 21 Sep 2003 19)
A teen chosen to train for the under-18 national soccer team had sex on several occasions with his girlfriend, who subsequently delivered a baby. The baby was put up for adoption. XXXX, 17, a student, yesterday admitted having sex three times with the 15-year-old girl at his Pasir Ris home in June, July and December 1999. District Judge F.G. XXXX postponed sentence to 12 Jul 2001, pending a probation report. (Straits Times 14 Jun 2001)
(I find it very strange , another footballer on probation)
Full-time NSman XXXXX, 23, who is married, was sentenced to six years and nine months in jail after he pleaded guilty to two charges - of committing statutory rape and hurting a public servant. XXX had sex with a 13-year-old girl he had met on a telephone chatline in July 2002. The girl, who was afraid she might become pregnant, made a police report the next day to say she had been raped. (Straits Times 15 Oct 2002) (H5
i XXXX the names.
The four footballers comitted statuatory gang rape. -
another classic example of how "fair" singapore are......
someone with a "not" so good reason carry drug kena hang lor... then 4 other with "very" good reason to gangbang a underage gal not even kena jail lor...
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had sex with 15 yrs old with the girl consent and got fined and jailed...
GANG RAPED a 11 yrs old and got freed?!
WTF SINGAPORE!? UGLY side...
so next time, those who wanna have underage sex, go join national team of any sports? or soccer only? -
What the freaking hell....
I am completely appalled at the notion that the boys may get away with their crime. 'Spotless records' or not, 'young' or not, footballers or not, the fact still remains that they took advantage of a 12 year-old girl to satisfy their carnal desires. Sure, the boys are young, but come on.... don't tell me that 17- and 18- year olds cannot tell the difference between right and wrong.
In a previous case, a bunch of guys who did it with a 14 year-old got jailed even though it was completely the girl's idea from start to finish. Now, I'm not making excuses for those guys, and they are pure criminals who chose to do the wrong thing instead of walking away. I don't know whether or not they have criminal records, but I say they completely deserve their sentences.
So why should these footballers be treated any differently? What kind of message are we sending to our youth? That you can get away with it as long as you are 'young', have 'spotless records' and good footballing skills?
I say put all those boys in prison and throw away the key. Heck, toss in a few strokes of the cane for good measure.