HardTail or Full Suspension MTB?
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For all u Cross Country riders out there!
Which type of bike do u prefer?
Hardtail ( eg: Giant XTC Team )
or
Full Suspension ( Giant NRS Air ) ?
I heard the trails in Singapore are not severe enough to require rear suspension! I even know of a guy who rides BT with a RIGID MTB!
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Im using a hardtail, very old bike giant atx 890, depends on individual prefrence, i feel there is more control on a hardtail.
Besides i don't like most full suspension frames. But my fren just got his santa cruz blur 4x, thats a nice frame for a full suspension. -
what's a hardtail?
i'm using a GT Tempest. nearly all parts have been upgraded - handlebar, brakes, suspension, seat, rims, tires, crank arms. front suspension only. catch me twice a week along changi coast rd. -
Personnally , i prefer a hardtail . If your buying your first bike , a hardtail would be a better choice as , 1. easier to control , 2. Cheaper , 3. Less maintainance. The trails at Bukit Timah don't require a full sus imho , the slight advantage u get from better control downslopes will probably not be worth the extra weight up the slopes . The downslopes are not that hardcore with hardly any 1-2 feet drops , no need full sus at all. At most u get better traction from the rear wheel. An average hardtail bike will be much cheaper than the full sus version and u can use the extra cash to get a better helmet which is always worth the investment.
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It depends more on personal preference. Hardtail = more versatile imho. Im not really into XC..into street riding..so i use hardtail.
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when do u go Changi Coast Rd and around wad time? I cycle there only during holidays or when not tied up with school work. I'm thinking of cycling at Mandai (tarmac ) after my Term Tests!Originally posted by sinicker:what's a hardtail?
i'm using a GT Tempest. nearly all parts have been upgraded - handlebar, brakes, suspension, seat, rims, tires, crank arms. front suspension only. catch me twice a week along changi coast rd.
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Hardtail = no rear linkage. Just a stiff rear.Originally posted by sinicker:what's a hardtail?
i'm using a GT Tempest. nearly all parts have been upgraded - handlebar, brakes, suspension, seat, rims, tires, crank arms. front suspension only. catch me twice a week along changi coast rd. -
i cycle frm my hse ard 2.15 - 2.30pm. so i shud reach changi coast rd at abt 3.15pm? i just finished my As. i go there any day i like. when the weather's cloudy. if it's sunny, forget it.Originally posted by markzz:when do u go Changi Coast Rd and around wad time? I cycle there only during holidays or when not tied up with school work. I'm thinking of cycling at Mandai (tarmac ) after my Term Tests!
my route is.. Tampines
Loyang Ave Changi Beach Changi Coast Rd ECP Benjamin Sheares Nicoll Hway ECP Bayshore Rd/Upp East Coast Rd Tampines.
RED GT Tempest MTB. -
oh that. looks hideous to me.Originally posted by seow:Hardtail = no rear linkage. Just a stiff rear. -
A hardtail is just a bike without rear suspension leh.Originally posted by sinicker:oh that. looks hideous to me. -
yup. anyway my MTB no rear suspension. not hardtail too.Originally posted by seow:A hardtail is just a bike without rear suspension leh. -
Aiya, Its a hardtail lah.Originally posted by sinicker:yup. anyway my MTB no rear suspension. not hardtail too.
Or if you have a rigid fork fitted, then its rigid. -
heh... here are the possible HardTail frames I'm considering:
1) Giant XTC Team ---- $450 , very light, not too expensive, tough, made of high grade Aluminium
2) Voodoo Sobo --- $900 , lighter den XTC, good at absorbing shocks but still rather stiff for better energy transfer when pedaling, made of Scandium which is a light weight Aluminium Alloy
3) Kona Titanium ---$950, specs not known yet.. but its of lower grade Titanium. Must ask Bike shop Boss to let me inspect it b4 can make conclusion.
4) A Titanium frame at GHC --- $1500, Taiwanese brand, very very light (lighter den Sobo ) but reliability? after all, its a Taiwanese brand, as compared to Itallian or USA brands, I trust the Ang Mors more!
4) LiteSpeed's cheapest Titanium frame ---- $2500!!!! And those guys at Treknology call it "cheap"! Sheeeeesh! But its performance is really Tok Kong!
If I work after army I might consider it! hehe..
5) Airborne Titanium--- $2000.... Specs unknown!
Whew! which frame would u guys buy huh?
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The giant XTC Team!!!
The frame is damn strong, theres a reason its one of the commonest bikes around in singapore. -
Damn strong?Originally posted by zanza:The giant XTC Team!!!
The frame is damn strong, theres a reason its one of the commonest bikes around in singapore.
Its being kown as the coke-can frame for being easily dented 0_0 -
I should be going there this SATURDAY, but I got a long way, all the way from WEST COAST.Originally posted by sinicker:i cycle frm my hse ard 2.15 - 2.30pm. so i shud reach changi coast rd at abt 3.15pm? i just finished my As. i go there any day i like. when the weather's cloudy. if it's sunny, forget it.
my route is.. Tampines Loyang Ave Changi Beach Changi Coast Rd ECP Benjamin Sheares Nicoll Hway ECP Bayshore Rd/Upp East Coast Rd Tampines.
RED GT Tempest MTB.
Im going to changi village for dinner & back, should see me clocking above 100 km easily. My route, west coast, west coast highway, robinson road, nicoll highway, stadium boulevard, tanjong rhu, east coast park, changi coast road & BACK AGAIN. -
1. Why not go Jalan Kayu for some Prata? If I'm free on Fri, I might go there for lunch. I dun cycle in the night, I'm more of a day cyclist!Originally posted by de_middle:I should be going there this SATURDAY, but I got a long way, all the way from WEST COAST.
Im going to changi village for dinner & back, should see me clocking above 100 km easily. My route, west coast, west coast highway, robinson road, nicoll highway, stadium boulevard, tanjong rhu, east coast park, changi coast road & BACK AGAIN.
2. Regarding the XTC Team frame: U serious about it being easily dented?!!
The bike shop boss told me he had made 5 XTC Team bikes for semi-professional XC Riders (Privateers who travel Asia to compete ) ! As compared to the VooDoo Sobo, do u think the Sobo will survive a harsher beating den the XTC Team?
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do u use a flat handlebar or a riser bar? I now using Titanium Flatbar. Really improves my aerodynamic, agility in corners and greatly reduced the weight in the front half of my bike!Originally posted by sinicker:what's a hardtail?
i'm using a GT Tempest. nearly all parts have been upgraded - handlebar, brakes, suspension, seat, rims, tires, crank arms. front suspension only. catch me twice a week along changi coast rd.
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The XTC is widely known to be the "coke-can" frame that gets easily dented.Originally posted by markzz:1. Why not go Jalan Kayu for some Prata? If I'm free on Fri, I might go there for lunch. I dun cycle in the night, I'm more of a day cyclist!
2. Regarding the XTC Team frame: U serious about it being easily dented?!!
The bike shop boss told me he had made 5 XTC Team bikes for semi-professional XC Riders (Privateers who travel Asia to compete ) ! As compared to the VooDoo Sobo, do u think the Sobo will survive a harsher beating den the XTC Team? -
Anyway....
a big THANK YOU for those of u who had adviced me against the XTC frame..
it really is fragile. I had already ordered my VooDoo Sobo frame liaoz.. will be able to get it in a few months time.. now no $$ yet! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! -
wah. just came back from cycling. damn tired. couldnt go to town coz' frm ECP, it seemed the skyscrapers at raffles place, raining liao.
i'm using a riser handlebar. -
hmmm...I must wait till Friday term Tests over den can cycle sia. Most prob go Urban cycling and pop by the bike shop to peek at my new frame! *sigh* den maybe next week go Bukit Timah for a little spin! Oh.. and I'll buy a helmet sia.. dangerous to ride offroad without 1!
Wonder if got sell $20 helmets?
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pulau ubin sells helmets for only 15 bucks i think. my fren grew up there and the other time i went with him, the uncle sold it to me at special price of 10 bucks. he say normal price is 15.
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i no helmet. no suit (whatever is the real name). home clothes + sandals.