Harmful substance in our TAP Water
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i kept drinking from the tap for dunno how many times. even if u go to hotel, u arent drinking boiled water w hat.
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I seriously wonder where TS drink water from ....
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then the ppl in Tekong how? everyday drink tap water... sure jialat already lah
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it do them no good to harm us but it do them very good to make us having lower IQ(stated by TS) so that we can be brainwashed by scums in whites more easilyOriginally posted by DrAlienology:if it is approved for usage in Singapore.. i don't see a reason to why the government wanna harm us.. -
Hmm...i know of someone who also tried to convince other people that our tap water is poisonous...
own up...which water filtration machine are you trying to promote? -
I think the whole article is very misleading. First it already claimed it is not to be taken as medical advise and it is nothing but ideas. Second america, canada,australia and many other countries are still using flouride water. And it has never been proven to be harmful to human before. The research cited is on rats exposed to incredible amount of flouride.
http://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc227.htm
In general, however, there has been no consistent pattern; in some of these epidemiological studies, the increased morbidity or mortality due to cancer can be attributed to the workersÂ’ exposure to substances other than fluoride.
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The relationship between the consumption of fluoridated drinking-water and morbidity or mortality due to cancer has been examined in a large number of epidemiological studies, performed in many countries. There is no consistent evidence of an association between the consumption of controlled fluoridated drinking-water and increased morbidity or mortality due to cancer.
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Skeletal fluorosis may develop in workers occupationally exposed to elevated levels of airborne fluoride; however, only limited new information was identified.
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Other studies, however, including analytical epidemiological investigations, have not supported this finding. In some cases, a protective effect of fluoride on fracture has been reported.
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Epidemiological studies show no evidence of an association between the consumption of fluoridated drinking-water by mothers and increased risk of spontaneous abortion or congenital malformation. Other epidemiological investigations of occupationally exposed workers have provided no reasonable evidence of genotoxic effects or systemic effects upon the respiratory, haematopoietic, hepatic or renal systems that may be directly attributable to fluoride exposure per se.
BTW, fish, tea leaves and breast milk and almost all food have flouride as well.
The reason why flouride is taken out of water is because there are some idiots who felt wronged to be given "medication" without consultation. And these european country actually resort to take flouridated salt instead to compensate the lack of flouride in their water. If this is not dumb I do not know what is dumb.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation
If there is no chlorine in the water, you probably die of dysentry first. And the reason why people are dying of cancer more because the other sickness can be cured with the current medical knowledge. -
i heard those cordial water sold in foodcourt drink stall is made from tap water?
sometimes i go restaurant hor, the iced water taste like tap water -
That's because it usually is.Originally posted by crabx:sometimes i go restaurant hor, the iced water taste like tap water
For example, in hotel inter-continental (wedding banquet kitchen) - when I was working there as a waiter, standard procedure for cold water is to go to the sink and open the tap, put ice, serve. -
Firstly, you are drinking CHLORIDE IONS mostly, not chlorine.
Secondly fluoride below 2ppm is harmless, above 2ppm causes mottled teeth and above 10ppm then you will see things like brittle bones etc appearing.
Fluorine is not stored in the body and helps decrease the solubility of bone and teeth and increases deposition of calcium and phosphate onto teeth and bone, protecting them from acid destruction. Excess fluoride is easily passed out and thus only in super high doses can we see the negative effects of fluoride.
Nonsensical homeopathic MLM sales techniques do disgust me alot. -
Ok... now that the TS has been thoroughly own3d....
... I suggest we all do a +1 and kill this thread.
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summerize, "Harmful substance in our TAP Water"Originally posted by TXian:Please summerize the linked webby to under 10 words. SO MANY words and ask us to read?????
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I am looking at the medical paper in the link again and I feel like laughing and share my thoughts here
The report say tat it give water with 75 ppm flouride to the rats. Now tat is 75 times more than the recommended dosage of 1 ppm to drinking water. If we use tis information on another molecule, lets say H2O or water, i can expect very bad result as well.
A human recommended water intake is 7 litres. 75 times 7 litres is 525 litres per day which is 21 litres an hour. If u force a person to such high level of water, u probably record the following observations
"bloated body, excessive urine and sweating, high blood pressure, extreme abdominal pain, excessive thinning of blood, collapse of digestive system, overworked kidney and liver, puncturing of stomach wall, reduced lifespan after prolonged period"
So should we conclude water at any amount is harmful to body or water at excessive amount is harmful to body ? -
It's long term effects, say 30 or 40 years of it. Also there is also fluoride and chlorine when u shower as well, so the amount is much more than you can drink in one day when you shower.Originally posted by stupidissmart:I am looking at the medical paper in the link again and I feel like laughing and share my thoughts here
The report say tat it give water with 75 ppm flouride to the rats. Now tat is 75 times more than the recommended dosage of 1 ppm to drinking water. If we use tis information on another molecule, lets say H2O or water, i can expect very bad result as well.
A human recommended water intake is 7 litres. 75 times 7 litres is 525 litres per day which is 21 litres an hour. If u force a person to such high level of water, u probably record the following observations
"bloated body, excessive urine and sweating, high blood pressure, extreme abdominal pain, excessive thinning of blood, collapse of digestive system, overworked kidney and liver, puncturing of stomach wall, reduced lifespan after prolonged period"
So should we conclude water at any amount is harmful to body or water at excessive amount is harmful to body ?
At this point, the long effects cannot be concluded because there is no conclusive evidence on the LONG TERM Effect.
Each to his own. -
I was one of the millions NSF before me...During the Chao recruit days....Originally posted by tomsss:then the ppl in Tekong how? everyday drink tap water... sure jialat already lah
So how??help!!! -
you drink when you shower?Originally posted by limpshaggy:It's long term effects, say 30 or 40 years of it. Also there is also fluoride and chlorine when u shower as well, so the amount is much more than you can drink in one day when you shower.
At this point, the long effects cannot be concluded because there is no conclusive evidence on the LONG TERM Effect.
Each to his own. -
Singaporeans drink recycled piss water and the TS is worried about a little fluoride.
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No, means when you shower, the water enter your body as well because your pores are open so it's more than what you drink even. DO some research on google if you want to know more.Originally posted by laurence82:you drink when you shower? -
Originally posted by skid:Singaporeans drink recycled piss water and the TS is worried about a little fluoride.
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Don't worry, you can always ask the government to help you. You know they really care about your welfare.Originally posted by hobochua:I was one of the millions NSF before me...During the Chao recruit days....
So how??help!!! especially the saf.
Seriously, three months is nothing compared to 3 years or 30 years. Most people are able to take short term damage like say smoke for 3 months but if they quit they will be able to survive the damage done.
Just like if u take big mac everyday for 3 months, you will probably feel sick, but doubt u can go 3 years without major damage to your body. Watch "supersize me" the american movie as research on this subject. -
I have a more powerful one to tell, i used to work at this club at somewhere near dhoby ghaut, the name start with d one. Anyway, the will recycle used mineral water bottles. The mineral water are normally used by guests to mix with wine or quench thirst.Originally posted by Vigelic:That's because it usually is.
For example, in hotel inter-continental (wedding banquet kitchen) - when I was working there as a waiter, standard procedure for cold water is to go to the sink and open the tap, put ice, serve.
Means you drink finish the bottle of water then u go home already, the SOP is to collect all the used bottles from the rooms, refill the tap water DIRECTLY without washing into the bottle again just hours before the club open for business. Once filled up again, simply put it all back to the rooms with the cap on.
No seal is ok, because most customers will never check or they will not be bothered to ask as they may feel troublesome or they may think maybe just that bottled not sealed tightly.
Only the bottle of water in the room is recycle one, normally if you request second bottle, it will be the original unopened one. In doing so, when the customer see the bottle in unsealed, you can simply say oh, it was a mistake, or the seal is just not tight for this bottle, we replace for you.
There is alot of sneaky things in food and drinks business. It's almost like magic show, alot of things done behind the curtains. -
It's long term effects, say 30 or 40 years of it. Also there is also fluoride and chlorine when u shower as well, so the amount is much more than you can drink in one day when you shower.
Now who claim tat u get health problems due to showering in flouride
Drinking and showering r completely different because the shower gel I have have probably a few hundred different and potentially dangerous chemical tat can poison me if I drink it. U mean they r all absorbed into my body ? Why am I still living now ?At this point, the long effects cannot be concluded because there is no conclusive evidence on the LONG TERM Effect.
Tat is another word of no evidence. And Americans have been using flouride for water for many decades and I don't see them becoming X men or stupid...
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whoa you mean if I boil water, fluoride will pop out of nowhere?Originally posted by limpshaggy:Actually, i think even if u boil the water from tap water, the fluoride will still be there, because it not bacteria can be removed by boiling. so that what most people have been drinking. Not tap water, but even boiled tape water. I may be wrong though.
updated: boiled water will not remove fluoride from it but concentrate it.
# Boiling Water
This will concentrate the fluoride rather than reduce it.
# Freezing Water
Freezing water does not affect the concentration of fluoride. -
Another rumour monger...
The key is the amount. The amount of chlorine and fluorides in our tap water has never been shown to be detrimental to health but has been proven to keep microbes low and prevent tooth decay respectively.
As for filtration, what sort of mechanical filter can remove fluorides? Show your data -
They can always try pull a redox chemical reaction to remove the fluoride.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Another rumour monger...
The key is the amount. The amount of chlorine and fluorides in our tap water has never been shown to be detrimental to health but has been proven to keep microbes low and prevent tooth decay respectively.
As for filtration, what sort of mechanical filter can remove fluorides? Show your data -
no wonder got chlorine taste. cheh! next time i should order evianOriginally posted by Vigelic:That's because it usually is.
For example, in hotel inter-continental (wedding banquet kitchen) - when I was working there as a waiter, standard procedure for cold water is to go to the sink and open the tap, put ice, serve.