Should the Hwa Chong student be suspended?
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becos he deserve the punishment?? r u so ignorant or just stupid?Originally posted by Rock^Star:Your first sentence just proves my point, desiring a punishment more than a chance to repent. I believe you are seldom forgiving in your own life, always hoping for punishment. Forgive me for being blunt once again.
There's such a thing as karma. Beware of it coming back to you.
don't worry, u r being ignorant not blunt
i am so afraid!!
what goes around comes around. maybe the next time someone bash u up, i can tell u to forgive him cos he is deserve a chance -
Do wrong, must be punished....
I wonder if that boy punches the MP or police, what will happened? Sorry uncle...accident...who asked you to molest my gf's arm....
Knn...dun grab arm, then grab where? boobs ah? or hair?
cok excuses... -
Wah like that we can start demolishing the prisons. Since we are so forgiving.
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Originally posted by dcx:Do wrong, must be punished....
I wonder if that boy punches the MP or police, what will happened? Sorry uncle...accident...who asked you to molest my gf's arm....
Knn...dun grab arm, then grab where? boobs ah? or hair?
cok excuses...
maybe the police will just take out his baton n beat that boy into submission -
New paper stories are always sensationalized.
With the dramatic manner in which the bus 'captain' (there are only drivers and inspectors to my knowledge) tried to detain the student, i can only imagine why the student reacted aggressively.
Should the 'captain' be given the sympathetic vote at all for his overzealous actions? Or should he be 'counselled' (a typical singaporean term for 'discipline') for his actions? -
You just proved my point once again - you've got a narrow mind.Originally posted by Kenashi:becos he deserve the punishment?? r u so ignorant or just stupid?
don't worry, u r being ignorant not blunt
i am so afraid!!
what goes around comes around. maybe the next time someone bash u up, i can tell u to forgive him cos he is deserve a chance
Any forgiveness here is not up to you, it's up to the bus driver. -
wah...then like that the police cannot be blamed also liao...they shld be given a chance also liao...Originally posted by Kenashi:
maybe the police will just take out his baton n beat that boy into submission -
next time our crime rate will shoot up
people getting cleverer
do wrong, dont admit nehmine, but pin blame or twist story on somebody else -
Shd start differentiating punishment and forgiveness. Will a mere sorry suffice in this case? Is it enough that the boy realises his mistake and repents? Yes we should forgive the boy for his naive brash ways, but at the same time he should know that there is a price to pay for such an uncouth behaviour.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:You just proved my point once again - you've got a narrow mind.
Any forgiveness here is not up to you, it's up to the bus driver.
yalor, i prove that u r wrong mah, so that's yr point huh
then what u telling me that for?? tell the bus driver lah
i remember a story whereby a serial killer ask for forgiveness from a priest n the priest accept his forgiveness in the name of god, after that, the serial killer escaped n killed the whole family of the priest, he went to the church n confessed to the same priest again n told him that he just slaughter his entire family so he came to ask for his forgiveness, guessed what the priest did.
he run a blade through that serial killer, so much for forgiveness when it doesn't concern u
this is just to prove yr point -
why shd the bus driver be counselled?Originally posted by BillyBong:New paper stories are always sensationalized.
With the dramatic manner in which the bus 'captain' (there are only drivers and inspectors to my knowledge) tried to detain the student, i can only imagine why the student reacted aggressively.
Should the 'captain' be given the sympathetic vote at all for his overzealous actions? Or should he be 'counselled' (a typical singaporean term for 'discipline') for his actions?
in all aspects, i feel he did nothing wrong..
its a part of his job. helping citizens track down lost cards.
he couldnt possibly let them off thinking that perhaps it was a stolen card..
it certainly wasnt overzealous. especially when u thought u caught a thief.
to be beaten up for grabbing the arm of the girl is over-reacting on the boy's part. -
I stabbed you...you die....pai seh lah...i did it by accident...i didn't mean to do so....sorry uncle...who ask you to grab my gf's arm, i wanted to pull your arm away, but i accidently pull out a knife n stab you by accident...
Ok..you're forgiven..i'll let you go for counseling and maybe do 200hrs of community services....as long as you tell me now that you've learnt your lesson.....
It goes the same with rapists and molesters wor.....can be forgiven one....no problem one....sure can forgive one...dun worry...no punishments..... -
Of course he must pay the price but not to the point of expulsion. We are talking about his entire future here. And everything happened in the heat of the moment.Originally posted by sermodabian:Shd start differentiating punishment and forgiveness. Will a mere sorry suffice in this case? Is it enough that the boy realises his mistake and repents? Yes we should forgive the boy for his naive brash ways, but at the same time he should know that there is a price to pay for such an uncouth behaviour.
How many times in life have you or me done something wrong in the heat of the moment? One always deserves a second chance. -
Yes it feels comforting to know that bus captains do take a lookout for reported lost cards, and not close a blind eye to it.
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now maybe they will close 1 eye..Originally posted by sermodabian:Yes it feels comforting to know that bus captains do take a lookout for reported lost cards, and not close a blind eye to it.
dun wan to get beaten up. -
His face look injured meh?
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so if i kill u in a moment of impulse, u will forgive meOriginally posted by Rock^Star:Of course he must pay the price but not to the point of expulsion. We are talking about his entire future here. And everything happened in the heat of the moment.
How many times in life have you or me done something wrong in the heat of the moment? One always deserves a second chance.
wah lor eh, go to jail meant no future meh??
then all ex-convicts can kill themselves liao
after jail time, there is a second chance
haven't u heard of the yellow ribbon project??? -
Inappropriate analogy. Serial killing is an act of extremity. A punch deserves punishment but not that deserved of a murderer. Quoting an example of the same magnitude would have served a better purpose.Originally posted by Kenashi:
yalor, i prove that u r wrong mah, so that's yr point huh
then what u telling me that for?? tell the bus driver lah
i remember a story whereby a serial killer ask for forgiveness from a priest n the priest accept his forgiveness in the name of god, after that, the serial killer escaped n killed the whole family of the priest, he went to the church n confessed to the same priest again n told him that he just slaughter his entire family so he came to ask for his forgiveness, guessed what the priest did.
he run a blade through that serial killer, so much for forgiveness when it doesn't concern u
this is just to prove yr point
Moreover, he's below 18? World of difference from an adult who has been through more in life. His actions have been wayward but he deserves a second chance. -
Oh ya...same goes for CSJ.....
Sorry uncle...i didn't mean to scold you...by accident only that i wasn't in the right state which made such remarks to you....
Ok lah...dun worry,...i forgive you....you learnt your lesson? okok...no problem....i forgive you....you can go back n have a good rest...but remember hor...next time cannot do it again hor.... -
injuries are written on the face huh??Originally posted by Skibi:His face look injured meh?
u got see bad ppl tattooed "evil" on their forehead or not -
doesnt it occur to anyone how on earth that can be classified as molestation?
a girl has a stolen card, and which already arouse suspicions, and the worse is that they try to run away
any natural reaction would be that to try to prevent them from escaping
a molestation in bright daylight in front of so many passengers?
sheesh
i think we perverted the meaning of molestation to minimise the guilt of the student simple because we felt pity for him rather than seeing that its obviously his fault
its a clear cut case -
Why don't you give jail a shot then? Don't you know that the yellow ribbon project is having trouble taking off? There is still a heavy stereotype placed on ex-convicts.Originally posted by Kenashi:so if i kill u in a moment of impulse, u will forgive me
wah lor eh, go to jail meant no future meh??
then all ex-convicts can kill themselves liao
after jail time, there is a second chance
haven't u heard of the yellow ribbon project???
If you kill me, I will hate you. You will be punished, given the death sentence and when justice has been served, I will forgive you. Likewise, when justice has been served on the boy, he should be forgiven.
100 hours of community service, coupled with a $10,000 fine and a severe rebuke by the judge should be enough. The boy cried right? He's not mature enough and mentally tough yet. I believe he's going through a lot of remorse now. Remorse can be mentally torturous and exhausting.
When was the last time you felt remorse and needed forgiveness? -
pai seh leh...i dun feel any pity for him...Originally posted by laurence82:doesnt it occur to anyone how on earth that can be classified as molestation?
a girl has a stolen card, and which already arouse suspicions, and the worse is that they try to run away
any natural reaction would be that to try to prevent them from escaping
a molestation in bright daylight in front of so many passengers?
sheesh
i think we perverted the meaning of molestation to minimise the guilt of the student simple because we felt pity for him rather than seeing that its obviously his fault
its a clear cut case -
don't u know that all criminals start from small petty acts???Originally posted by Rock^Star:Inappropriate analogy. Serial killing is an act of extremity. A punch deserves punishment but not that deserved of a murderer. Quoting an example of the same magnitude would have served a better purpose.
Moreover, he's below 18? World of difference from an adult who has been through more in life. His actions have been wayward but he deserves a second chance.
it escalated along the way until it become too big to contain.
a jailtime is not that bad, it is a lesson in life, it leaves a lasting impression on convicts, they either turn straight or they try their hardest not to get caught again
18 or 80, it is the same thing, u pay for yr actions.
we will give him a second chance, after he is released.
nowaday, the school very lenient one, got one fellow who get jail term for fraud, NUS still reserve his place after he finished serving his sentence -
Originally posted by Kenashi:
Har? Face got punched then you say he didn't write the word "Punched" on his face? Want to talk rubbish also don't talk until this extent?
injuries are written on the face huh??
u got see bad ppl tattooed "evil" on their forehead or not
Ok admit it...the bus driver is YOU.