Should the Hwa Chong student be suspended?
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QuoteOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:Where is the evidence that she was harmed?
"The student said that as they were about to alight through the front door along Dunearn Road, the driver 'sprang from his seat and grabbed my friend's right arm'.
My friend cringed as he did that, and I instinctively pushed him away." -
I'll say "excuse me, u are not suppose to leave", and I mean itOriginally posted by tokyofire:If someone steal your stuffs n tried to leave. What would u? sit there n said "excuse me, u are not suppose to leave." or immediately grap that person? -
no lah, i was trying to stop him from thrashing but i don't know my strengthOriginally posted by BusSpeeder:-.- teeth knock out still ok but arm twisted??????? want him to lose a hand ah? summore cannot use violence as a BC. if not also at fault but the BC didn't, meaning he enforces the rules well.
not violence, just reasonable force!! -
grab arm will violate virginityOriginally posted by Skibi:Lol you also know how to say self defence. The bus driver grab xiao mei mei, her bf punch bus driver oso defend mah. Defend her virgin.
u live in iran where the women r clad from head to toe huh
n death to those who see any part of them -
what is there to be remorse about??Originally posted by Rock^Star:You hardly feel remorse? That explains the way you communicate.
u being stupid or simply u lack the capacity to think logically -
hallo, where did i say anything about punching??Originally posted by Rock^Star:You boasted that you will punch the boy in self defence if you were the bus driver. So after that, in order to prevent further injury, the boy may punch back too? Does it ever end?
Talking through your ass once again.
u sure know how to lie
what r u trying to do, cover yr damn ass
yr mouth damn smelly, pls cover it up, u talking sh!t again -
reflect on doing the right thing??Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:I think the Bus driver should also reflect on itself.
i wonder what u do for doing the wrong thing?? -
Reflect on his attitude.Originally posted by Kenashi:reflect on doing the right thing??
i wonder what u do for doing the wrong thing?? -
elite or no elite, i don't careOriginally posted by Rock^Star:Sarcasm appreciated.
It's laughable that some think just because the HCI guy is from a reputable school, he figures that he may get away due to that. It may be more believable if that guy were the son of some MP.
As much as he deserves punishment, some here can't wait to see an "elite" go to jail. Missing the point. Delusional.
a man should face the music for his action
not act like a damn coward n cry after the police arrived
loser -
This is really OOPOriginally posted by Skibi:Lol you also know how to say self defence. The bus driver grab xiao mei mei, her bf punch bus driver oso defend mah. Defend her virgin. 
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Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Maybe the bus driver hold her hand too hard? Unintentionally caused harm to someone.
It's like " Sorry, my knife accidentally poke into you "
like that oso can
next time someone touch me i can shout assault liao -
time for u to widen yr circle of friendsOriginally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Yes. I am a very unhappy, but not confused person. I only have a small social group of friends but that doesn't mean I don't get along well with them.
the world is out there -
Good for you. But still have to remember ar, if you touch other people.. They'll be the one shouting.Originally posted by Kenashi:
like that oso can
next time someone touch me i can shout assault liao -
one's words against anotherOriginally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Quote
"The student said that as they were about to alight through the front door along Dunearn Road, the driver 'sprang from his seat and grabbed my friend's right arm'.
My friend cringed as he did that, and I instinctively pushed him away."
no count -
hmM~Originally posted by Kenashi:time for u to widen yr circle of friends
the world is out there -
Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:I'll say "excuse me, u are not suppose to leave", and I mean it
what r u going to do if that person leave.
"u r not suppose to leave" go one corner n cry -
Originally posted by Kenashi:
what r u going to do if that person leave.
"u r not suppose to leave" go one corner n cry -
what attitude??Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Reflect on his attitude.
the bus driver said one thing n the student said another
unless got witness other than the gf said that the bus driver was rude, i don't think he did anything wrong -
wait till u become minister then u can propose to pass this law lahOriginally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Good for you. But still have to remember ar, if you touch other people.. They'll be the one shouting. -
I'd never want to become a politican. I can't bear to spent other peoples hard earn cash.Originally posted by Kenashi:wait till u become minister then u can propose to pass this law lah -
IsnÂ’t it refreshing how when such a controversy occurs, suddenly many judicial officials and prosecutors appear online to give their say on such a matter? Seriously, as much as we as citizens of Singapore are entitled to their own opinion, I believe that this media persecution of sorts have been carried too far.
First of all, to the moralists out there who seem to be well informed of the entire incident, IÂ’ll like to challenge you to look at your source and how viable it is. From my knowledge (which might be wrong, and if so, pardon me), most of your information comes from a particular tabloid called The New Paper. Let me (as a mere being) remind you that it IS a tabloid. Tabloids do provide information, yes. But is the information dissipated 100% accurate? This is regrettably unable to be confirmed. Yet somehow or another, many moralists that seem to lurk this board seem to pounce on every bit of information encapsulated, and seem to buy all the information provided by a tabloid. A tabloid. A mere medium of information that contains some forms of untrue news. How can you moralists, sit on your high horse and accept all the information provided without any questioning?
What about the boy? Sure, he does come from a so-called elite school, but nonetheless, he IS still a boy. Just like the neighbourhood 17 year old geek, or the 17 year old beng from the opposite street. Being from an elite school, should not warrant him any special mention when compared to that of another delinquent from some other school. Expecting more out of an adolescent due to background is unfair.
What about his personality? It is curious that upon reading the tabloid article, half of the moralists here seem to know him personally, and to a close proximity at that. Names like “Beng” or “gangster” have been unjustly stereotyped onto him. But is he really a gangster? Or a neighbourhood scoundrel? No one here knows him personally, and hence none of us should come to a conclusion on the type of person he is. Yes, perhaps he is a troubled child. A troubled child who flares at the slightest provocation and attacks the nearest perpetrator, causing significant bodily harm. But he could also be a hearty teenager, who at a moment’s weakness, attacked the bus driver out of impulse. No one here knows who he is… or how he is as a person. It isn’t fair to slap stereotypes of ‘scoundrels’, ‘delinquents’ and ‘Beng’ on him, just because he hit the bus driver, details courtesy of a single tabloid. Ultimately, none of us know him personally, and hence cannot criticize him as a person. However, we CAN criticize his actions. And I am saddened that most here have expressed choice words on the boy’s character instead.
His friends know him well…the school knows him well… his parents know him well. If I might refer to the comment “well-behaved and good student” from the school, I would like to point out that there is a good chance that this is an accurate representation of the boy. However, many of you swept it under the carpet, claiming this to be bullcrap. But in reality, no one knows what type of a person he is, and hence no concrete comment/evidence should be entirely disregarded. Also, the fact that his father would kneel down for mercy, speaks volumes of what the father expects from the child. Certainly, the father of a delinquent would not simply kneel down for mercy, especially if he had to do so several times beforehand.
And the bus driver? No doubt what he had done was in his line of duty, and as a proud worker of the company, he stuck to policy and did what he had to do. Many of the moralists around here seem to realize that, and thatÂ’s good. But perhaps the attitude, tone and action that was taken by the bus driver might have veered off course? Perhaps what transpired between the grabbing of the girlÂ’s hand sparked off a protectionist impulse from the sensitive boy? No, IÂ’m not condemning what the bus driver did or said. But perhaps, there was a better of handling things? Maybe a polite tone and a non-physical action taken would have been more appropriate? Do bear in mind that I am of the stand that the bus driver did what he had to do in his line of duty. But howeverÂ… could there perhaps have been a better way of tackling things?
Then perhaps counters to my arguments put forth would bring up the eye-witness accounts of a certain Canadian passenger. But that leads me back to the point that The New Paper is, and functions as, a tabloid. While it would be a huge accusation to completely dismiss the eye-witness account as false, but isnÂ’t there a glimmer of a possibility that that piece of evidence is fabricated? Nothing is conclusive however, and hence I urge everyone here, especially the moralists on a persecuting row, to take all information provided with a pinch of salt.
Indeed, if allegations of the boy hitting the bus driver was true, the boy is definitely to blame. But then one must ask themselves, does the blame fall solely on the boy? Or should the bus driver as a mature, and perhaps respected person of society bear a small portion of the blame too? -
Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:I'd never want to become a politican. I can't bear to spent other peoples hard earn cash.
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Originally posted by Kenashi:
For you...declare 302 first. Then CARRY ON. V
like that oso can next time someone touch me i can shout molest liaoV -
You do live up to your nick and your take on this matter is crystal clear. Not many choose to see it this way though.Originally posted by Empathy90:IsnÂ’t it refreshing how when such a controversy occurs, suddenly many judicial officials and prosecutors appear online to give their say on such a matter? Seriously, as much as we as citizens of Singapore are entitled to their own opinion, I believe that this media persecution of sorts have been carried too far.
First of all, to the moralists out there who seem to be well informed of the entire incident, IÂ’ll like to challenge you to look at your source and how viable it is. From my knowledge (which might be wrong, and if so, pardon me), most of your information comes from a particular tabloid called The New Paper. Let me (as a mere being) remind you that it IS a tabloid. Tabloids do provide information, yes. But is the information dissipated 100% accurate? This is regrettably unable to be confirmed. Yet somehow or another, many moralists that seem to lurk this board seem to pounce on every bit of information encapsulated, and seem to buy all the information provided by a tabloid. A tabloid. A mere medium of information that contains some forms of untrue news. How can you moralists, sit on your high horse and accept all the information provided without any questioning?
What about the boy? Sure, he does come from a so-called elite school, but nonetheless, he IS still a boy. Just like the neighbourhood 17 year old geek, or the 17 year old beng from the opposite street. Being from an elite school, should not warrant him any special mention when compared to that of another delinquent from some other school. Expecting more out of an adolescent due to background is unfair.
What about his personality? It is curious that upon reading the tabloid article, half of the moralists here seem to know him personally, and to a close proximity at that. Names like “Beng” or “gangster” have been unjustly stereotyped onto him. But is he really a gangster? Or a neighbourhood scoundrel? No one here knows him personally, and hence none of us should come to a conclusion on the type of person he is. Yes, perhaps he is a troubled child. A troubled child who flares at the slightest provocation and attacks the nearest perpetrator, causing significant bodily harm. But he could also be a hearty teenager, who at a moment’s weakness, attacked the bus driver out of impulse. No one here knows who he is… or how he is as a person. It isn’t fair to slap stereotypes of ‘scoundrels’, ‘delinquents’ and ‘Beng’ on him, just because he hit the bus driver, details courtesy of a single tabloid. Ultimately, none of us know him personally, and hence cannot criticize him as a person. However, we CAN criticize his actions. And I am saddened that most here have expressed choice words on the boy’s character instead.
His friends know him well…the school knows him well… his parents know him well. If I might refer to the comment “well-behaved and good student” from the school, I would like to point out that there is a good chance that this is an accurate representation of the boy. However, many of you swept it under the carpet, claiming this to be bullcrap. But in reality, no one knows what type of a person he is, and hence no concrete comment/evidence should be entirely disregarded. Also, the fact that his father would kneel down for mercy, speaks volumes of what the father expects from the child. Certainly, the father of a delinquent would not simply kneel down for mercy, especially if he had to do so several times beforehand.
And the bus driver? No doubt what he had done was in his line of duty, and as a proud worker of the company, he stuck to policy and did what he had to do. Many of the moralists around here seem to realize that, and thatÂ’s good. But perhaps the attitude, tone and action that was taken by the bus driver might have veered off course? Perhaps what transpired between the grabbing of the girlÂ’s hand sparked off a protectionist impulse from the sensitive boy? No, IÂ’m not condemning what the bus driver did or said. But perhaps, there was a better of handling things? Maybe a polite tone and a non-physical action taken would have been more appropriate? Do bear in mind that I am of the stand that the bus driver did what he had to do in his line of duty. But howeverÂ… could there perhaps have been a better way of tackling things?
Then perhaps counters to my arguments put forth would bring up the eye-witness accounts of a certain Canadian passenger. But that leads me back to the point that The New Paper is, and functions as, a tabloid. While it would be a huge accusation to completely dismiss the eye-witness account as false, but isnÂ’t there a glimmer of a possibility that that piece of evidence is fabricated? Nothing is conclusive however, and hence I urge everyone here, especially the moralists on a persecuting row, to take all information provided with a pinch of salt.
Indeed, if allegations of the boy hitting the bus driver was true, the boy is definitely to blame. But then one must ask themselves, does the blame fall solely on the boy? Or should the bus driver as a mature, and perhaps respected person of society bear a small portion of the blame too? -
i remembered long time ago there's an article in newpaper about "elite school"s' students vs neighbourhood sch students.
They did some surveys and conclude neighbourhood students are "stupid" in the sense that they do bad things (potang, bad discipline, copying, late, never do homework, watch porn, bullying, etc) but dunno how to hide it well, how at least hide it convincingly. For example, a neighbourhood student who copied and scored and was not caught, tend to showoff to his other peers, hence exposing himself, risking himself to being caught the next time (someone jealous may report him, or some may copy his method of copying and may be caught).
The eilite school students also do the same bad things, but as they also excel in their results and dun broadcast the bad stuff they do, they seldom get caught. Even if they are caught, (example: watch porn, copying) by parents, their parents tend to let them off believing its only a one-time thing as their child is very smart and gets As for his tests and exams.
Dunno if anyone recall that article.