In memory of Shanmugam Murugesu
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As an American citizen, I was shocked to find out that a man was murdered by Singapore for having marijuana.
It is well known in the USA that this is a natural, non-addicting and very popular smokable plant. Many states have already legalized it for medicine, and much more is to come.
This is a bloodstain on Singapore, probably based on ignorance. Note we are not discussing opium here! I am sure many of you drink beer and wine but think nothing about doing that.
It also seems that the fact that two young children begged for their father's life meant nothing to Singapore. This a horror on top of a horror.
Fortunately, Mr. Murugesu and Singapore's horrific killing live on in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanmugam_Murugesu -
lol wut?
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simi blue hammer
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u will be more shocked if u look into the rest of singapore's laws..
that said, its illegal to traffic drugs into singapore..
and its not as if singapore hasnt made clear its stand on drugs trafficking.
do it at ur own risk.
i believe that death penalty is justified. -
Different countries different systems. What might work in another country might not work here in Singapore.
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Where the fark is the WELCOME TO SINGAPORE pic?
No wording leh -
I have every respect for Singapore's accomplishments, education etc.
However, this matter is most certainly a terrible exception to the rule. -
Notice that this is Singapore and Every country has its own law.
Taken from Wikipedia:
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Shanmugam Murugesu (c.1967 – 13 May 2005) was a Tamil Singaporean executed for smuggling 1.03 kg of cannabis into Singapore from Malaysia. Such offenses carry a mandatory death sentence under Singapore's Misuse of Drugs Act.
Prior to his death, Murugesu's case was publicized by campaigners against capital punishment in Singapore, which has the highest per capita rates of legalized execution in the world. He was the father of two children.
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If he smuggles, it means that he knows it's against the law. If he knows the law, he can jolly well stick to cigarettes instead of smuggling a whopping 1.03kg of cannabis into Singapore when the law states that (If i am right) if anyone is found with >0.5kg of drugs will be sentence to death.
The penalty is justified.
Cheers.
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wat rule?Originally posted by coffeegirl:I have every respect for Singapore's accomplishments, education etc.
However, this matter is most certainly a terrible exception to the rule.
the law states that suggling drugs=death penalty.
he jolly well follow the law or face the consequences, which in his case is the death penalty. -
i am glad to be living in singapore where i dun have pple running around with guns in schoolsOriginally posted by coffeegirl:I have every respect for Singapore's accomplishments, education etc.
However, this matter is most certainly a terrible exception to the rule.
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He knew the risks, and he most probably knew how Singapore deals with drug smugglers but he took the risk and got caught. It was his own choice to brave Death's Gate.
Btw, this was a two years old case and you are still whining over it. What are you going to whine about next? The execution of Van Tuong Nguyen? -
If you know theres a fire there, why would you take the risk and play with fire. He had it coming
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Legalise Marijuana BAN smoking!
Alchohol n Cigarettes should be banned as well . They are also a form of drugs! N why is it not banned ? Open your eyes... n seek the truth! -
sorry, if you cant pay the time then dont commit the crime.
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If he escaped the gallows, he won't escape mob action which would begin with drawing, esmasculation, hanging and then ending with quatering.
Hanging him is too good as cannabis is a drug that endangers human lives.
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I do appreciate your replies in this matter.
I believe there is a failure to distinguish marijuana from other drugs. Singapore's view of it appears to be the same as heroin, instead of the appropriate beer/wine category. The USA and many European countries have not had this view since the 1930's. That was 70 years ago.
In any event the killing was in no way justified. Law does not justify itself. -
how it endangers human life ? do explain~Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:If he escaped the gallows, he won't escape mob action which would begin with drawing, esmasculation, hanging and then ending with quatering.
Hanging him is too good as cannabis is a drug that endangers human lives. 
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In Singapore, the only natural resource is the people. Even if a small portion of this natural resource gets defective, its still treated with great importance. Lets say we legalize it, people get addicted to it. Wont the society crumble. If all you can think of is when is the next time u can smoke your pot, then there is something really wrong.Originally posted by coffeegirl:I do appreciate your replies in this matter.
I believe there is a failure to distinguish marijuana from other drugs. Singapore's view of it appears to be the same as heroin, instead of the appropriate beer/wine category. The USA and many European countries have not had this view since the 1930's. That was 70 years ago.
In any event the killing was in no way justified. Law does not justify itself. -
When in Rome, do what the Romans did.
All arrival card in Singapore indicates that bringing undeclared drugs warrants death penalty, notices were also pasted everywhere in the custom, does the message get across?
He knew that the thing that he is carrying into Singapore will warrant him a death penalty, (publicised by the media over these years) yet he carries it over, doesn't it means that he just signed his own death warrant? -
It causes sensory distortations which is dangerous in a highly urbanized country. It can cause a person to dehydrate to dangerous levels.Originally posted by BadzMaro:how it endangers human life ? do explain~
I believe just the 2 above reasons is enough. -
too bad.Originally posted by coffeegirl:As an American citizen, I was shocked to find out that a man was murdered by Singapore for having marijuana.
It is well known in the USA that this is a natural, non-addicting and very popular smokable plant. Many states have already legalized it for medicine, and much more is to come.
This is a bloodstain on Singapore, probably based on ignorance. Note we are not discussing opium here! I am sure many of you drink beer and wine but think nothing about doing that.
It also seems that the fact that two young children begged for their father's life meant nothing to Singapore. This a horror on top of a horror.
Fortunately, Mr. Murugesu and Singapore's horrific killing live on in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanmugam_Murugesu
he chose to take risks and think of not suffering from it?
wot a coward.
marijuana is a drug in some countries you can only get it from pharmacies and in some you may not even posses it. -
Sensory distortations can be caused by excessive smog in an urban enviroment. Weed actually gives out a kind of chemical that greatly relaxes the eyes therefore ur eyes become watery as the stress of ur eyes are relaxed causing ur pupils to dilate n lubricate hence cause SLIGHT distortions of views but still allowing the human brain to process distance , objects and colours .Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:It causes sensory distortations which is dangerous in a highly urbanized country. It can cause a person to dehydrate to dangerous levels.
I believe just the 2 above reasons is enough.
A person dehydrate due to increase of flam as the THC if inhaled without a filter slightly solidifies in your body but absorbed into the human body easily hence requiring fluids. Simple to say , its like going thirsty after smoking a cigarette. The feeling of dryness.A person do not dehydrate to any dangerous levels unless he refuses any intake of fluid into his system even when he is thirsty.
Any more reasons? he he... thsoe 2 reasons are not enough.
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If i come to a country fully aware of the laws and purposely break them what does it mean?
If you want foreigners to obey laws in your country you will have to accept what ever laws in the country you travel too. Else please do not travel. -
Ya.. i agree.. if country death penalty.. of course dont bring in ..lo.. i dont understand why ppl will still smuggle knowing the maximum penalty once caught.Originally posted by DriftingGuy:If i come to a country fully aware of the laws and purposely break them what does it mean?
If you want foreigners to obey laws in your country you will have to accept what ever laws in the country you travel too. Else please do not travel.
Some have thier reasons for smuggling , but i think for ppl who try to decry the executions must also understand that under the laws , once found guilty , is punishable by death. Sad to say even if its only marijuana.. its the death penalty in that country. Instead b|tching about it , why not educate them , n change the laws when they are in a position of power. he he~