Heaven does not exist - Andrew PK Yap
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If you do not want to discuss it, then you post for what?Originally posted by eagle:I have said "let's not discuss this".
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If you understood the context of my passage, it means "let's not discuss about time"Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:If you do not want to discuss it, then you post for what? -
Try to point out the errors in my fallacies, dude.
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You made a post on Time in a thread on Heaven (to talk about fallacies, errors in thinking)Originally posted by eagle:I'm quoting from Resnick and Halliday physics textbook. Wikipedia is nowhere compared to these two great physics authors.
You made a post to say: "Let's don't discuss this" (Make a post for what if you didn't want to discuss it?)
If you have forgotten, just refer back a few posts.
I think I prefer to believe Wikipedia than what you say, if you don't mind. -
This is what I found in wikiOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:You made a post on Time in a thread on Heaven (to talk about fallacies, errors in thinking)
You made a post to say: "Let's don't discuss this" (Make a post for what if you didn't want to discuss it?)
If you have forgotten, just refer back a few posts.
I think I prefer to believe Wikipedia than what you say, if you don't mind.
Standard textbook definitions
Note that textbook definitions are not always the most helpful definitions, but they are an important aspect of the culture surrounding the concept of entropy.
* Entropy – energy broken down in irretrievable heat.[16]
* Boltzmann's constant times the logarithm of a multiplicity; where the multiplicity of a macrostate is the number of microstates that correspond to the macrostate.[17]
* the number of ways of arranging things in a system (times the Boltzmann's constant).[18]
* a non-conserved thermodynamic state function, measured in terms of the number of microstates a system can assume, which corresponds to a degradation in usable energy.[19]
* a direct measure of the randomness of a system.[20]
* a measure of energy dispersal at a specific temperature.[21]
* a measure of the partial loss of the ability of a system to perform work due to the effects of irreversibility.[22]
* an index of the tendency of a system towards spontaneous change.[23]
* a measure of the unavailability of a systemÂ’s energy to do work; also a measure of disorder; the higher the entropy the greater the disorder.[24]
* a parameter representing the state of disorder of a system at the atomic, ionic, or molecular level.[25]
* a measure of disorder in the universe or of the availability of the energy in a system to do work.[26]
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Let's not discuss Time in a thread on "Heaven"?Originally posted by eagle:Try to point out the errors in my fallacies, dude.
Let's not discuss Time in a thread on "Heaven"?Originally posted by eagle:If you understood the context of my passage, it means "let's not discuss about time" -
Do I need to teach you where I'm referring to?Originally posted by eagle:Time is not simply a measurement of change. It is much more abstract than simply stating that it is a measurement of change. But let's not discuss this. -
Originally posted by eagle:
What is the primary, main, definition?
This is what I found in wiki
Standard textbook definitions
Note that textbook definitions are not always the most helpful definitions, but they are an important aspect of the culture surrounding the concept of entropy.
* Entropy – energy broken down in irretrievable heat.[16]
* Boltzmann's constant times the logarithm of a multiplicity; where the multiplicity of a macrostate is the number of microstates that correspond to the macrostate.[17]
* the number of ways of arranging things in a system (times the Boltzmann's constant).[18]
* a non-conserved thermodynamic state function, measured in terms of the number of microstates a system can assume, which corresponds to a degradation in usable energy.[19]
* a direct measure of the randomness of a system.[20]
* a measure of energy dispersal at a specific temperature.[21]
* a measure of the partial loss of the ability of a system to perform work due to the effects of irreversibility.[22]
* an index of the tendency of a system towards spontaneous change.[23]
* a measure of the unavailability of a systemÂ’s energy to do work; also a measure of disorder; the higher the entropy the greater the disorder.[24]
* a parameter representing the state of disorder of a system at the atomic, ionic, or molecular level.[25]
* a measure of disorder in the universe or of the availability of the energy in a system to do work.[26]
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These are the fallacies that I have asked for the errors to be pointed out. If you do not understand what is a fallacy, there's no reason to continueOriginally posted by eagle:Time is not simply a measurement of change. It is much more abstract than simply stating that it is a measurement of change. But let's not discuss this.
It's simply this:
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AndrewPKYap is a forumer.
Forumers are people who have nothing better to do but sit in front of their computers and type rubbish.
Hence AndrewPKYap is someone who has nothing better to do but sit in front of their computers and type rubbish.
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If Frankfurt is the capital of Germany, then it is in Germany
Frankfurt is in Germany.
Hence Frankfurt is the capital of Germany.
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
You do need a lesson in physics I guess.
What is the primary, main, definition?
[b]* Entropy – energy broken down in irretrievable heat.[16] [/b]
So what happens when energy broken down in irretrievable heat? -
Eagles are birds... People that use the word eagle as their nick are trying to tell people that they have bird brains...Originally posted by eagle:These are the fallacies that I have asked for the errors to be pointed out. If you do not understand what is a fallacy, there's no reason to continue
Spot the fallacy in this argument and you will spot your own fallacy in that post... -
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
The sentences are not linked. This is clearly not a fallacy. Obviously, you have not understood that what a fallacy is.
[b]Eagles are birds... People that use the word eagle are trying to ell people that they have bird brains...
Spot the fallacy in this argument and you will spot your own fallacy in that post...[/b]
What were your premises? What are your conclusions? -
Are you asking, what happens to the energy?Originally posted by eagle:You do need a lesson in physics I guess.
So what happens when energy broken down in irretrievable heat? -
No. May I ask what is your highest education level in physics, and what is your score for it?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Are you asking, what happens to the energy? -
Originally posted by eagle:The sentences are not linked. This is clearly not a fallacy. Obviously, you have not understood that what a fallacy is.
What were your premises? What are your conclusions?
I think I prefer not to discuss "logic" with you, if you don't mind.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You made a post on Time in a thread on Heaven (to talk about fallacies, errors in thinking)
You made a post to say: "Let's don't discuss this" (Make a post for what if you didn't want to discuss it?)
If you have forgotten, just refer back a few posts. 
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Well I was discussing fallacies with you. Not logicOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:I think I prefer not to discuss "logic" with you, if you don't mind. -
another fallacy... "ad hominem"Originally posted by eagle:No. May I ask what is your highest education level in physics, and what is your score for it?
Discuss the issue at hand without fallacies... -
Anyway, thanks for entertaining me for so long with your ignorance of what a fallacy is, ignorance of the simple term of entropy, and the way you did what you mentioned about copying and pasting (from wikipedia) without understanding at all what it means.
I shall go back to revising my work. =D -
Originally posted by eagle:Anyway, thanks for entertaining me for so long with your ignorance of what a fallacy is, ignorance of the simple term of entropy, and the way you did what you mentioned about copying and pasting (from wikipedia) without understanding at all what it means.
I shall go back to revising my work. =D
You are very fond of making stupid statements don't you?Originally posted by eagle:Well I was discussing fallacies with you. Not logic
SoYouWanna avoid the logic error of incorrectly using the "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" fallacy? Post hoc, ergo propter hoc is Latin for after this, ...
www.soyouwanna.com/site/minis/mini/logicmini/logicmini3.html - 10k - -
Sorry but I just can't resist posting this from the other thread. I promise it will be my last post in this thread.
Viel Spaß.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:cut and paste is so easy with google, but useless. 
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Originally posted by eagle:The sentences are not linked. This is clearly not a fallacy. Obviously, you have not understood that what a fallacy is.
What were your premises? What are your conclusions?
I think I prefer not to discuss "logic" with you, if you don't mind.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You made a post on Time in a thread on Heaven (to talk about fallacies, errors in thinking)
You made a post to say: "Let's don't discuss this" (Make a post for what if you didn't want to discuss it?)
If you have forgotten, just refer back a few posts. Originally posted by eagle:Well I was discussing fallacies with you. Not logicOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:
You take the cake... go ahead...
You are very fond of making stupid statements don't you?
SoYouWanna avoid the [b]logic error of incorrectly using the "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" fallacy? Post hoc, ergo propter hoc is Latin for after this, ...
www.soyouwanna.com/site/minis/mini/logicmini/logicmini3.html - 10k -[/b] -
I shall break my promise of my last post just now by clearing this doubt for u due to my poor english.Originally posted by eagle:Well I was discussing fallacies with you. Not logic
I had understood your "logic" means the logical argument for entropy, not the logical fallacies. My mistake here. -
Once again, thank you. =DOriginally posted by eagle:Anyway, thanks for entertaining me for so long with your ignorance of what a fallacy is, ignorance of the simple term of entropy, and the way you did what you mentioned about copying and pasting (from wikipedia) without understanding at all what it means. -
so, my dear friend, what other mistakes are there in your head? I hope your clear them... illusions, delusions, false assumptions, blind faith, false hope.... these are the curses of mankind....Originally posted by eagle:I shall break my promise of my last post just now by clearing this doubt for u due to my poor english.
I had understood your "logic" means the logical argument for entropy, not the logical fallacies. My mistake here. -
Try as you may to continue debunking meOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:so, my dear friend, what other mistakes are there in your head? I hope your clear them... illusions, delusions, false assumptions, blind faith, false hope.... these are the curses of mankind....
We will leave for the forum to judge.