Gang-Raped and beatend up in Johor Baru near 2nd link
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yes i agree, crime happens everywhere. but dun u think crime rate in JB is exceptionally higher den anywhere else in msia? getting robbed is one thing but how abt rape? it is a very serious crime and yet wad msia police are doing? only brushing down the stories of crime rate and nth much else.Originally posted by vivasg:i think cannot say tat, everywhere also have crime. in singapore ppl cut ppl to pieces... etc...
Personally i stay in jb as well and drive a sg SUV.
I think main thing is... must be street wise and alert no matter where you are.
Got one time when my car broke down in the middle of the night, one guy stop and try to ask for direction.. he walk near me 3 steps and i would back off 3 steps so he can be in my full view where i can know every action of his body. Maybe he meant no harm but for safety we give no chance for any bad thing to happen.
Just like if u putting a wallet/hp on a table in hawker centre either in sg or m'sia it does happen ppl grab and run. But if u don't put ur wallet/hp there, it would have prevent these kind of things happen.
Sometimes u must be brave/calm when encounter any bad things. don't be scared till u have no strength to move.
When calm u can think proper solution
And be brave, and be more agressive than the attacker and u can protect urself. u afraid of pain, ur attacker also afraid of pain.
Think of death is nothing at the point ur life is at stake, u will then able to be safe. if u scare of death, u be afraid and lose calm and do not know wat to react. Definitely if u know martial art can play one role to protect ur own self as well. But main thing is 'BE CALM'
Also one time when i was at my friend house in broad day light, a thief was stealing the gas. the neighbour saw and keep quiet. So i go and scream to the thief, but thief was not even panick and even slowly throw the gas outside the compound of the house. So tat time i took a wooden staff and try open the door and give a chase only then he immediate ride motor bike off.
because nowsday ppl outside look strong and muscle but inside are timid and weak that cz more and more crime to take place.
Lets be brave and be more helpful to each other then we can create a peaceful world no matter where we are.
If today we don't help ppl in need, future when we in need we will meet the same kind of ppl who don't help us.
not everyone noes how to protect themselves. not everybody is the same size. like the case where by 4 pple robbed the 2 couple, do u think dey can really do anything? one on one still okay, but 4 VS 2 will definitely lose out, unless u are bruce lee or jackie chan.
hopefully something is done~ -
I believe they caught one of the suspects
Ex-gang member linked to gang-rape
JOHOR BARU: Police have identified a former member of the Sagol Gang as allegedly being behind the gang-rape of a woman on Monday.
State CID chief Senior Asst Comm II Roslan Ahmad said Shahabudin S.K. Mohamed Ariff, 27, could assist police in their investigations.
It is learnt that Shahabudin was detained three years ago in relation to a gang-rape case but was released because of insufficient evidence.
SAC Roslan said police were looking for three others involved in Monday's incident in which a 19-year-old woman was raped by three men as her boyfriend watched helplessly in Taman Bukit Indah.
He said a task force comprising state and district police had been formed to hunt the suspects.
On reports that Tampoi and Larkin police had responded belatedly in the case, SAC Roslan said an investigation would be carried out.
He reminded the public to call the police hotline at 07-2212 999 to report any crime. -
well thats first assuming its not a cover-up to try and sho they doing workOriginally posted by rainee:I believe they caught one of the suspects
Ex-gang member linked to gang-rape
JOHOR BARU: Police have identified a former member of the Sagol Gang as allegedly being behind the gang-rape of a woman on Monday.
State CID chief Senior Asst Comm II Roslan Ahmad said Shahabudin S.K. Mohamed Ariff, 27, could assist police in their investigations.
It is learnt that Shahabudin was detained three years ago in relation to a gang-rape case but was released because of insufficient evidence.
SAC Roslan said police were looking for three others involved in Monday's incident in which a 19-year-old woman was raped by three men as her boyfriend watched helplessly in Taman Bukit Indah.
He said a task force comprising state and district police had been formed to hunt the suspects.
On reports that Tampoi and Larkin police had responded belatedly in the case, SAC Roslan said an investigation would be carried out.
He reminded the public to call the police hotline at 07-2212 999 to report any crime. -
What exactly, of being Malaysian, are you proud of?Originally posted by vivasg:RETARDED_MORON
If you ashamed of ur malaysian nationality, y don't u cease ur citizenship?
As a malaysian, I'm proud as a malaysian.
I really despise those who felt ashamed of their own nationality. -
Overblown....this is just a crime.....
Meat Pao. -
Not exactly true, if you learn fighting you will realize that brute force and size is good to have, but technique is always far more useful in the end. Smaller weaker people can pwn larger people if they know what they are doing.Originally posted by hiphop2009:not everyone noes how to protect themselves. not everybody is the same size. like the case where by 4 pple robbed the 2 couple, do u think dey can really do anything? one on one still okay, but 4 VS 2 will definitely lose out, unless u are bruce lee or jackie chan.
hopefully something is done~
Yes you may be outnumbered, but the vital advantage is that you must be willing to die to protect yourself, while the average robber isn't usually willing to die to rob or get injured robbing somebody. If you communicate quite clearly that despite being outnumbered, you can take out or even kill a few of them before you finally go down it is a very big discouragement. Many just want a simple meal.
But if it really comes down to it.
And if it really comes to the fight and you have no choice, go straight for the leader if you can. Taking out the leader usually takes a lot of the fight out of the group.
Also, if you can, try to grab one of your opponents in a lock and use him as a shield, keep redirecting your opponents into each other to tie them up and use positioning so that you never have to face more then one at a time (not to mention they have to get through their friends to get to you). Poisitioning is key to surviving.
It is usually beyond your skill level to fight all of them using hard martial arts, and grappling arts like BJJ (though very effective 1 v 1) are not very useful. So one has to apply a lot of soft martial arts to survive in a multiple opponent battle. The idea is not to floor them all, floor those you have to floor and redirect the rest away, make an opening and make a run for it.
Also, it is important not to let them get a grip on you, so learning grip breaking is important.
It is not impossible, just very difficult and dangerous. But there are people who have sucessfully defended themselves against multiple opponents before, but they are an exception.
It's always better to run. -
One of them caught? I am sorry to inform that in an unrelated case of snatch theft ( not the rapes cum robberies ), the only suspect was caught.Originally posted by Technomage:GOOD . 1 OF THEM CAUGHT, THEN PATOH ALL OF THEM CHU LAI. PRINT FACE BIG BIG ON NEWSPAPER. LET EVERYONE LAUGH AT THEM, THEY DESERVE THE CAPITAL PUNISHMENT
so far, NONE of the rape cum robbery suspects were caught.
Actually, on friday morning, Straits times reported that one suspect living in Skudai was caught. He is a Malay. However, the truth is that Straits Time REPORTED wRONGLY!!!
The suspect was NEBER caught at all... just being identified by the police! Thats all! -
The suspect was merely identified. NO ONE WAS CAUGHT YET. The police only wayang big time. The Singapore Straitts time on Friday morning also did us a great disservice when they wrongly distorted the truth that the malaysian police has caught the suspect.
NONE of them is caught. I just got back from Malaysia. Malaysian chinese is still very shell-shocked over it and the news are spashing out day and night.
It was reported that when the rape victim and poor guy whose legs were slashed and bleeding profusingly went to JB hospital for treatment, nurses IGNORED them! Police turned up 7 hours later!!
Somemore, police woman interviewing rape victim jokingly did not believe her and make fun at them.
idiots.
By the way, these are big news in this region. ALL OF YOU MAY WANT TO KNOW THAT IN MALAY NEWPAPERS UP NORTH, there was almost zero reporting of these sadist crimes.
Malaysia has gone to the DOGs. Criminals are government now..
Go at your own risk. I need to be there because of business. If not I wouldnt bother!Originally posted by rainee:I believe they caught one of the suspects
Ex-gang member linked to gang-rape
JOHOR BARU: Police have identified a former member of the Sagol Gang as allegedly being behind the gang-rape of a woman on Monday.
State CID chief Senior Asst Comm II Roslan Ahmad said Shahabudin S.K. Mohamed Ariff, 27, could assist police in their investigations.
It is learnt that Shahabudin was detained three years ago in relation to a gang-rape case but was released because of insufficient evidence.
SAC Roslan said police were looking for three others involved in Monday's incident in which a 19-year-old woman was raped by three men as her boyfriend watched helplessly in Taman Bukit Indah.
He said a task force comprising state and district police had been formed to hunt the suspects.
On reports that Tampoi and Larkin police had responded belatedly in the case, SAC Roslan said an investigation would be carried out.
He reminded the public to call the police hotline at 07-2212 999 to report any crime. -
The suspect was NOT caught but merely identifed.Originally posted by trafox10:seems like one suspect has been caught.
http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2007-06-14&sec=malaysia&art=0614mb30.txt[/url]
I just got back from JB with latest news.
However, Straits Time Singapore on Friday MORNING gave wrong info and stated that a suspect has been NABBED.
He has been identified only! -
I'm going johore tmr with my family!!! pls pray for my safety!! or else i wun know if Henry joins barca or not!!
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yucks.. I feel so disgusted that Singapore was once part of that shit country! connected by a bridge summore!! Pui Pui! PUI! Thank goodness I was born on the right side of the bridge
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who go jb high chance to come back losing sth...
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However, after a few kilometres, the coupleÂ’s car broke down and they were forced to stop.
If i drive into msia, i'd make sure my car is not a proton (or any other china/msia made car..) -
The updated article:
Police name suspect in robbery-cum-rape case
16 June, 2007
Police have identified one of the suspects in the robbery-cum-rape of a 19-year-old woman and the robbery and assault of her boyfriend in Gelang Patah on Monday. A police dragnet has been launched for Shahabdeen Haq SK Mohammed Ariff, a member of the Sagol gang which had been crippled in 2003.
He had been released by police as they lacked sufficient evidence.
The gang had also been involved in other robbery-cum-rape cases in the state, carrying out at least three such crimes.
State CID chief SAC II Roslan Ahmad released ShahabdeenÂ’s picture to the media yesterday.
Police also launched an inquiry into allegations by the victims that a police patrol team had failed to act when the brother of one of them informed the policemen that the couple was being attacked.
"If the allegations are true, we will take immediate action. This could include termination from the force for the policemen involved," he said.
In the incident on Monday night, the woman and her 22-year-old boyfriend were travelling from Pontian to here when four men in a Toyota Altis rammed into their Proton Iswara.
The suspects robbed the couple before slashing the manÂ’s legs with a parang. The couple was then bundled into the Toyota Altis and taken to an abandoned hut in Taman Tampoi Indah where the woman was raped.
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/National/20070615075019/Article/index_html -
malaysian police tok cok one...wayang only~ they are bloody racist one~Originally posted by Vigelic:The updated article:
Police name suspect in robbery-cum-rape case
16 June, 2007
Police have identified one of the suspects in the robbery-cum-rape of a 19-year-old woman and the robbery and assault of her boyfriend in Gelang Patah on Monday. A police dragnet has been launched for Shahabdeen Haq SK Mohammed Ariff, a member of the Sagol gang which had been crippled in 2003.
He had been released by police as they lacked sufficient evidence.
The gang had also been involved in other robbery-cum-rape cases in the state, carrying out at least three such crimes.
State CID chief SAC II Roslan Ahmad released ShahabdeenÂ’s picture to the media yesterday.
Police also launched an inquiry into allegations by the victims that a police patrol team had failed to act when the brother of one of them informed the policemen that the couple was being attacked.
"If the allegations are true, we will take immediate action. This could include termination from the force for the policemen involved," he said.
In the incident on Monday night, the woman and her 22-year-old boyfriend were travelling from Pontian to here when four men in a Toyota Altis rammed into their Proton Iswara.
The suspects robbed the couple before slashing the manÂ’s legs with a parang. The couple was then bundled into the Toyota Altis and taken to an abandoned hut in Taman Tampoi Indah where the woman was raped.
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/National/20070615075019/Article/index_html -
The most RACIST country in the world is now Malaysia. When Lee Kuan Yew talked about Johor Baru being notorious for car-jacking and robberies etc, he is not totally correct.
FACT IS JOHOR ( MALAYSIA ) IS WORSE THAN THAT! THEY ARE A HUB FOR ROBBERY, RAPES ESPECIALLY AND CAR-JACKING!!
IT WAS REPORTED AGAIN IN MALAYSIA THAT TWO DIFFERENT SINGAPOREAN CARS WERE STOLEN ALONG THE ROAD WHILE OWNERS GOT DOWN TO PACKET FOOD NEARBY!!!
Malaysia is not SAFE at all and the crimes are REAL and alive!! -
i think sg is really safe compared to this bloody m'sia lol. to be fair its cause of our effective governance yah. feel really lucky to be born a singaporean and not a m'sian
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Originally posted by boyish1981:
eh the boy was unconsious dont make it sound so frightening......
Wow.. big news in Malaysia. Now circulating like siao in Malaysia and Singapore. Somemore time is 1030pm. Not very late.. still can do this type of thing.
What is Malaysia degenerating into?
Waylaid couple assaulted, woman gang-raped
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JOHOR BARU: It was a date that turned horribly wrong for a young couple from Pontian.
They were assaulted and robbed, and then the girl was gang-raped by four men who had waylaid them.
Their nightmare began about 10.30pm on Monday. The couple was taking a leisurely drive in a Proton Iswara towards Johor Baru, when a Toyota Altis rammed into their car from behind on a lonely road in Gelang Patah.
The 22-year-old boyfriend, who was at the wheel, was worried about his 19-year-old girlfriend and felt uneasy about stopping as there were four burly men in the car which had rammed their car.
He drove on and tried to get to a crowded area while his girlfriend frantically called her elder brother on her cell phone and told him that they were being pursued by a group of men.
However, after a few kilometres, the coupleÂ’s car broke down and they were forced to stop.
The four men confronted the couple. One of them slashed the boyfriend on his legs with a parang.
They were also robbed of their wallets, jewellery and cell phones.
The robbers then bundled the couple into their car and took them to a hut in Taman Tampoi Indah about 40km away.
There, the robbers took turns raping the girl [b]while her boyfriend was forced to watch.
Meanwhile, the girlÂ’s brother who was driving around Taman Perling searching for his sister, chanced upon a police patrol car.
According to MCA Youth Public Service and Complaints Department deputy chief Rodney Soon, the policemen in the car listened to the girlÂ’s brother before driving off.
The couple was released about 1.30am. They sought help from passers-by who took them to the Sultanah Aminah Hospital.
The boyfriendÂ’s father later lodged a police report at the hospitalÂ’s police beat base.
Police could not be reached for comment.
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Latest update on the case:
Cops solve gang rape cases with arrest of 14
By NELSON BENJAMIN and FARIK ZOLKEPLI
JOHOR BARU: Police believe they have solved several cases of robbery-cum-gang-rape in Johor with the arrest of 14 people, including a 14-year-old girl.
The suspects, who were arrested in a series of raids, have been linked to at least two rapes here and a robbery in Batu Pahat over the past month.
State police chief Deputy Comm Datuk Hussin Ismail said police did not dismiss the possibility that the same group was also linked to other gang rapes, abductions, carjackings and robberies at petrol stations in the state.
He said the suspects were rounded up in Kulai, a hotel room in Skudai, an apartment in Stulang Baru and in Taman Gunung Pulai in an operation which began at 1.30am yesterday.
DCP Hussin said a special task force was set up to track down the suspects following the gang rape and robbery of a 19-year-old woman in Taman Tampoi Indah on June 12.
All the suspects were nabbed by officers from the state serious crimes unit headed by Supt Gan Tian Kee.
He said seven of the suspects tested positive for drugs while six of them had past records for carjacking, robbery, drug abuse and rape and had been held under the Emergency Ordinance.
One of the suspects is also on the wanted list for theft in Kuala Kubu Baru, Selangor.
“We are still looking for another suspect,” DCP Hussin told a press conference here yesterday.
The rapes and robberies received widespread attention in recent weeks.
The matter was raised at the Johor State Assembly yesterday when Datuk Tee Siew Kiong (BN – Pulai Sebatang) told the House that the need to boost the manpower and facilities of the police force was vital.
DCP Hussin said the special team had a breakthrough at about 1.30am yesterday when they nabbed three men in a car in Kulai.
Subsequently, police raided a hotel room in Skudai and nabbed six people including the 14-year-old school dropout.
“During the raid, some of the suspects tried to flee by climbing to the ceiling of the hotel but were nabbed when they fell from their hiding place,” DCP Hussin said.
On allegations from certain quarters, including a rape victim, on the slow response from the police, DCP Hussin said they were investigating the matter and action would be taken against the personnel involved if the allegations were found to be true.
He also reminded the public especially victims to contact the police hotline at 07-221 2999 during emergencies. -
Why are there so high crime rate in Malaysia?????
I heard it is because of
THERE ARE A LOT OF "CRIMINALS" IN THE MALAYSIA POLICE FORCE !!!
If that is true, then they should
Catch all their "police criminals", "CLEAN UP" their police force before catching other people !!! -
For country like Malaysia no use de.. If government not corrupted u think their "police force" will be?Originally posted by BaruKu_9:Why are there so high crime rate in Malaysia?????
I heard it is because of
THERE ARE A LOT OF "CRIMINALS" IN THE MALAYSIA POLICE FORCE !!!
If that is true, then they should
Catch all their "police criminals", "CLEAN UP" their police force before catching other people !!! -
maybe the POC movie shouldn't useOriginally posted by boyish1981:The most RACIST country in the world is now Malaysia. When Lee Kuan Yew talked about Johor Baru being notorious for car-jacking and robberies etc, he is not totally correct.
FACT IS JOHOR ( MALAYSIA ) IS WORSE THAN THAT! THEY ARE A HUB FOR ROBBERY, RAPES ESPECIALLY AND CAR-JACKING!!
IT WAS REPORTED AGAIN IN MALAYSIA THAT TWO DIFFERENT SINGAPOREAN CARS WERE STOLEN ALONG THE ROAD WHILE OWNERS GOT DOWN TO PACKET FOOD NEARBY!!!
Malaysia is not SAFE at all and the crimes are REAL and alive!!
welcome to singapore..
think should be
welcome to malaysia.. -
Ever heard this case in Malaysia where this young girl got raped by a bunch of thugs, and they threatened her not to tell anybody or there would be trouble. However she eventually told her parents and they made a police report, but nothing much came of it.
The thugs however, did not leave them alone, they started brazenly harassing the family and tried to threaten them into dropping the case, for some reason the police yet again failed to take any solid action into protecting the family and eventually the father tried to settle things by meeting the thugs, and he was beaten to death by them!
A very sad case that happened some time back, here are criminals who took something from the family when they raped the girl, but did not stop there and carried on to take away the father.
I donÂ’t really know what became of that case. -
Hellraiza,
Is not the matter of proud on ur so call Petronas Tower.
Is an appreciation tat been given to born in Malaysia and appreciated I was grown and educate to be able to contribute to the society.
One must appreciate and not complaining lack of this and that.
hiphop2009
I don't think crime rate in JB is exception high... please take a look at the newspaper and u can know. example is the recent violence happen in geylang.
Media is good and is powerful. I think is good for the media to highlight these out. But please do take note there are a lot of things happen that is not shown to the public.
And Is not really have to be bruce lee or jackie chan.
Yes, depends some circumstances. they may not able to do anything. But I have the same point with SingaporeTyrannosaur comments.
SingaporeTyrannosaur
Well said.. I think i need to add on is to maintain calm.
and have an undying spirit of not afraid of die.
Quite sometime ago, i saw a post from here mentioned a welt built guy was been threaten in Pudu to pay for some protection money from a fragile middle age guy. AND HE PAY.... and find a lot of reason for his submission and then feeling frustrated and posted here.
First of all... if this guy is BRAVE, he would not have give in, just an simple example.
RETARDED_MORON
Please see above my answer. For you, is not a matter u a malaysian or even from other country, I'm really felt u a disgraced cz u will never be proud of ur own country.
boyish1981
Just an opinion, since u think so bad, y not u find a better job that no need for u to go into malaysia. -
JB RAPE & ROB TERROR
100,000 residents to petition for peace
Girl, 14, one of 14 rounded up by police
June 17, 2007
JOHOR police have arrested 14people suspected to be involved in the recent spate of rape robberies in the state.
(Left)Johor's Chinese Association holding signs saying the crimes should be stopped and peace be returned. -- Pictures: CHINA PRESS
They include 13 men and a 14-year-old girl, reported Bernama.
Among the arrested are those believed to be responsible for Monday's case, where a 19-year-old girl was gang-raped by three knife-wielding robbers after she and her 22-year-old boyfriend were car-jacked in Gelang Petah, near the Second Link.
The boyfriend was also slashed in the legs.
The horrific crime has prompted Johor's Chinese Association and several clans to come together to organise a 'gathering of 100,000', which has been scheduled for this afternoon.
They plan to gather 100,000 signatures for a petition which they plan to submit to the Johor police. The groups are calling for an end to such crimes and for safety to be brought back to streets, reported Sin Chew Daily.
The violent and cruel crimes are an open challenge by the attackers to the police and residents, said a group spokesman.
Johor police chief Datuk Hussin Ismail said the arrested suspects were rounded up in a series of raids around various parts of the state yesterday morning by a special squad.
The first arrest was made when three suspects were spotted travelling in a stolen Honda Accord.
(Above) Shahabudin SK Mohamed Ariff is allegedly behind the gang-rape.
They were nabbed in Taman Mas, Kulai, at about 1.30am yesterday.
This led the police to a Skudai hotel, where five men and the girl were arrested.
The girl and six of the men tested positive for drugs.
The police chief added that six of those arrested had previous records for rape, robbery, theft, rioting, assault and drug offences.
Johor police added that they have not ruled out the possibility that the same gang was involved in other gang rapes, abductions, carjackings and robberies at petrol stations in the state.
On Thursday, police identified Shahabudin SK Mohamed Ariff, 27, a former member of the Sagol Gang as allegedly being behind the gang-rape of the 19-year-old victim.
The gang, which was crippled by police in 2003, had also been involved in robbery-and-rape cases in Johor.
State officials have assured residents and foreign investors that there are plans to beef up the Johor police force, reported The Star. ( They have been saying this for the PAST 40 years!!! hahaha!! They think Singaporeans are soooo dumb to invest?!? Throw me $$ to go live in JB and I will throw more $$ at them!! )