hey ppl, i'm gg to attend a focus group discuss organise by the moe on this coming monday. Need some ideas of what u are expecting from the new uni. Some example like... more poly student then jc student can enter, easier entry requirement, convience location etc etc...

thank you!

4th university is which one ah?

i wish there’s a fair chance for JC and poly students

Originally posted by FireIce:

4th university is which one ah?

havent open yet... gov still planning. That's why they wants us to give our views. So to attract students to the new uni when it's open.

Originally posted by selfobliged:

i wish there's a fair chance for JC and poly students

then why still bother to fen JC or poly?

Originally posted by relgn:

havent open yet... gov still planning. That's why they wants us to give our views. So to attract students to the new uni when it's open.

open where?

reclaimed land beside IR ah?

my thought is disadvantage to jc students..

provided they mug so hard for a levels in order to get into uni and now a new uni is opening up uni admission to the poly students.. not saying that all poly students are slackers which it isn't.
but somehow the new uni would advantage the poly students will lower the overall gpa requirements for poly students from original 3.5 to about 3 or even lower.??
isnt that also granting admission and advantage to some "lucky slackers"??
then the poor jc student mug so hard when they graduate together with the addition of new graduates from the new uni they face jobs competition then in the end also suffer with a lower pay..

unfair la.. really must see those jc students really mug like statues leh.. they deserve to stand out in this society wad..

btw this is a comment from a sec 4 boy.(not taking sides on Jc or poly.)
but seriously this is how i feel..

there's a reason why there is preferred entrance provided to JC students.

basically, JC students wish to take the riskier route of having a "useless" A level cert to get into Uni one year faster than Poly students. Poly students have less risk as they get a professional cert that already allows them to get substantial jobs. JC studies are too basic in any field to get a proper professional job.

the differences between entrance into JC and Poly has been declining through the years. Ie. L1R5 15 points to get into a ok JC, L1R4 13 to get to an ok course in poly. therefore, if you wanna go into uni, just go to JC!

- More specialized degree
- Easier entry of local polytechnic students
- Focus on R&D
- Offers admission to students with O level cert. (Pathway route ie from dip to adv dip to degree)
- Location is an important factor
- Teaching method
- Name of the 4th University
- etc

Let it be specially made for poly students. So theyd stop complaining that they cant get in. And then mourn for the poor JC students who cant get into university because they dont have anything worthwhile. I look at people in my army camp. Just look across the room and i can find a handful of A level students that didnt make it into university. But they arent complaining. They are gonna retake their A levels, or go to poly, go overseas, go to private university. But just nearby are a bunch of poly grads complaining they cant get into university. Who is worse off?

I dont mind the 4th university being a liberal arts college. It is time for something new.

got SOTA already

Originally posted by FireIce:

got SOTA already

SOTA is not a liberal arts college.

i pray dat there wont even have 4th uni. cos it only de-value the degree.

nowaday there r alot of degree holders. throw rock n u'll definitely hit one graduate.

it will be tragic dat poly or ite students after graduated have to face society which only care bout cert.

free education for citizens...
sky high costs for foreigners...

but fat hope

make ppl go for masters, phD loh

and when the streets are saturated with phDs, they need to have something higher level
like senior phD or phD mentor

Hmmm, wat is SOTA?

actually no point quarrelling over poly or jc should have the priority to enter uni lar lar. i think both have fair chance. It just that should the 4th uni take u more student. As wat i noe not all poly student with gpa of 3.5 or above gets to enter local uni. Come'on, keep the comment coming in.

I need some positive feedback from u guy. What are your expectation, like having good research facilites or better program? Maybe specialisation in certain area. All suggestion are welcome. thank you thank you

Time for specialization rather than general ones. We have 3 doing that, another private uni doing so.

if singapore unis relli so good, so world-class, why ministers sons and dotters all send to overseas uni?

Khoo Teck Puat University

KTPU

Originally posted by FireIce:

if singapore unis relli so good, so world-class, why ministers sons and dotters all send to overseas uni?

Harvard or Oxford?

In other senses, school fees (uni) too peanuts to them....must justify their moneeee, therefore, go overseas since the sch fees cost more..

Originally posted by FireIce:

if singapore unis relli so good, so world-class, why ministers sons and dotters all send to overseas uni?

Because their result can get them to local U

Originally posted by Fireindahouse:

my thought is disadvantage to jc students..

provided they mug so hard for a levels in order to get into uni and now a new uni is opening up uni admission to the poly students.. not saying that all poly students are slackers which it isn't.
but somehow the new uni would advantage the poly students will lower the overall gpa requirements for poly students from original 3.5 to about 3 or even lower.??
isnt that also granting admission and advantage to some "lucky slackers"??
then the poor jc student mug so hard when they graduate together with the addition of new graduates from the new uni they face jobs competition then in the end also suffer with a lower pay..

unfair la.. really must see those jc students really mug like statues leh.. they deserve to stand out in this society wad..

btw this is a comment from a sec 4 boy.(not taking sides on Jc or poly.)
but seriously this is how i feel..

you come poly and see how possible it is to slack and still score more than 3.0

you have yet to even graduate from secondary school so don't talk like you know how life is in JC or Poly

sg education fee is not cheap, by further studies will meant a student will not set into working life, hence giving parents more burden to pay for their education.

however not many pple can afford it so they have no choice but to take up loan from bank/cpf.

after the students can graduated, can they ensure they have a good life finding a good job to repay their parents?

Originally posted by FireIce:

if singapore unis relli so good, so world-class, why ministers sons and dotters all send to overseas uni?

Singapore unis are good, just not as good as harvard, oxford cambridge etc.

Originally posted by Ashearo:

Let it be specially made for poly students. So theyd stop complaining that they cant get in. And then mourn for the poor JC students who cant get into university because they dont have anything worthwhile. I look at people in my army camp. Just look across the room and i can find a handful of A level students that didnt make it into university. But they arent complaining. They are gonna retake their A levels, or go to poly, go overseas, go to private university. But just nearby are a bunch of poly grads complaining they cant get into university. Who is worse off?

I dont mind the 4th university being a liberal arts college. It is time for something new.

if you fail A level, you can retake and have a whole new result. if you don't get at least 3.5 in your poly results, you can't simply wait 1 year to retake, you have to retake the whole course to get your 3.5

thus poly students who wish to go to university have to mug throughout their 3 years in poly while JC students can wait til their second year til make a crashcourse for their As

Did you think of them?

why they aren't complaining? look at the number of poly students the local Unis are taking in then tell me who is worse off

Not everyone is rich enough to go overseas

And right now, I think even 3.7 might not get you into Uni