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One strange thing to note is how few people have heard of Emergence
"Results 1 - 10 of about 37,500,000 for Emergence [definition]. (0.17 seconds) "
Google "37,500,000 Results for Emergence" ... it is not that obscure!!!! -
study on how to communicate with plants, insects, birds and furnitures
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Originally posted by forum_dude:study on how to communicate with plants, insects, birds and furnitures
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Hmmm....
You just keeping forumers in suspense to bump up the hits huh?
10 pages still don't reveal.
I am eagerly awaiting your answer. -
Originally posted by maurizio13:Hmmm....
You just keeping forumers in suspense to bump up the hits huh?
10 pages still don't reveal.
I am eagerly awaiting your answer.
see previous page... -
Sorry, didn't read the previous page.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap: see previous page...
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Not really... apparently it could change the course of humanity...Originally posted by maurizio13:Sorry, didn't read the previous page.
A bit abstract right?
For example... (money would not be abstract, would it... ) .....
the stock market... think about is, is like a colony of ants.... the market ....
individuals... acting independently... hahaha if you can find a way to make sense of how and why the market moves... hahahaha
or
you can make sense of the weather... the plane takes off and the pilot lets the whether carries the plane to the next destination.... hahaha... if you can make sense of how the weather works...
something like, if you can make sense of it, you can predict which flapping of the butterfly's wings in Singapore will cause a tornado in Iowa
the outcome, the tornado being an emergent... as of now, emergents, nobody knows how it works... but if only....
so you, as an expert in emergence, would be so highly in demand by all the most profitable and essential industries.... it would be mind boggling... -
but as of now... no one in sgforums has guessed what the formal name of the course to study emergence is...
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The concept of money is abstract, but it has physicality leh.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Not really... apparently it could change the course of humanity...
For example... (money would not be abstract, would it... :lol
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the stock market... think about is, is like a colony of ants.... the market ....
individuals... acting independently... hahaha if you can find a way to make sense of how and why the market moves... hahahaha
or
you can make sense of the whether... the plane takes off and the pilot lets the whether carries the plane to the next destination.... hahaha... if you can make sense of how the whether works...
something like, if you can make sense of it, you can predict which flapping of the butterfly's wings in Singapore will cause a tornado in Iowa
the outcome, the tornado being an emergent... as of now, emergents, nobody knows how it works... but if only....
so you, as an expert in emergence, would be so highly in demand by all the most profitable and essential industries.... it would be mind boggling...
Market moves because of herding tendency amongst traders.
Utilize weather for air travel, don't think it's possible anytime soon, because plane flight is dependant on focusing the air pressure on the wings. The geographical landscape determines wind patterns, so even if your plane can utilize the wind currents, you might be limited to certain destinations. Moreover, at higher altitudes, the wind currents are generally weaker.
Butterfly's wings can never cause tornado and hurricanes (despite stupid Channelnewsasia advert, unless they meant it metaphorically), because tornadoes are caused by the intermingling of hot and cold air. -
I was thinking of abstract as in "philosophical" and not like the way most people would look at the need for money as "practical".
Of course, if we are talking about using the weather to aid air travel, we will not be talking about today's planes....
and that quote does not originate from CNA but is from "the Butterfy effect"...The butterfly effect is a phrase that encapsulates the more technical notion of sensitive dependence on initial conditions in chaos theory. Small variations of the initial condition of a nonlinear dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system. So this is sometimes presented as esoteric behavior, but can be exhibited by very simple systems: for example, a ball placed at the crest of a hill might roll into any of several valleys depending on slight differences in initial position.
The phrase refers to the idea that a butterfly's wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that ultimately cause a tornado to appear (or prevent a tornado from appearing). The flapping wing represents a small change in the initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large-scale phenomena. Had the butterfly not flapped its wings, the trajectory of the system might have been vastly different. -
Anything is good, don't don't study IT.
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Chim... I have no idea what's the study of emergence....
For those who prefer an explanation to everything or who are materialists... you can call it the "Study of Missing Links". -
why huhOriginally posted by mistyblue:Anything is good, don't don't study IT.
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As much as I would like to agree with you and close the matter, but I feel that it's wrong to link butterfly wing flaps with tornadoes. The phrase coined came from a mathematician (Ian Stewart) dealing in chaos theory who has no understanding of meteorology and weather systems.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I was thinking of abstract as in "philosophical" and not like the way most people would look at the need for money as "practical".
Of course, if we are talking about using the weather to aid air travel, we will not be talking about today's planes....
and that quote does not originate from CNA but is from "the Butterfy effect"...
Ian Stewart was born in 1945 in England. While in the sixth form at school, Stewart came to the attention of the mathematics teacher. The teacher had Stewart sit mock A-level examinations without any preparation along with the upper-sixth students; Stewart placed first in the examination. This teacher arranged for Stewart to be admitted to Cambridge on a scholarship to Churchill College, where he obtained a BA in Mathematics. Stewart then went to the University of Warwick for his PhD, on completion of which he was offered an academic position. He is now Professor of Mathematics at the University of Warwick. He is one of the world's most famous mathematicians, with significant contributions to catastrophe theory.
"The flapping of a single butterfly's wing today produces a tiny change in the state of the atmosphere. Over a period of time, what the atmosphere actually does diverges from what it would have done. So, in a month's time, a tornado that would have devastated the Indonesian coast doesn't happen. Or maybe one that wasn't going to happen, does." (Ian Stewart, Does God Play Dice? The Mathematics of Chaos, pg. 141)
Here's how a recipe for a tornado might go:
In the sky, mix warm, moist air with cooler, drier air. Because it's less dense, the warm air rises and passes through the cool air. The rising warm air creates what's called an updraft. Air that's higher in the sky starts to cool off and sinks, causing a downdraft.
For a tornado to start, two air masses must meet, a lower one containing warm, humid air and a higher one containing cool, dry air.
During thunderstorms, unstable humid warm air moves upward and is stopped by a thin layer of cool dry air. This thin layer act like a cap on the warm air below it causing pressure and energy to build as more humid sir rises.
When the cap gives way under the pressure of rising warm air, it releases a huge amount of energy in the form of an upward moving air mass. Air currents move in from all sides to replace the rising warm air and some times form a tornado. Usually, this does not happen. Wind at high altitudes plays an important role in determining whether a tornado develops. Depending on conditions, these winds can intensify the sudden upward air flow and create the vortex of wind that is a tornado.
Tornadoes can happen anywhere in the world. However, due to certain conditions, the Midwestern United States is where they happen most frequently.
In this region, the two major air masses necessary to start a tornado meet: dry cool polar air from Canada and humid warm air from the Gulf of Mexico. An average tornado lasts only 10 minutes and travels up to 10 to 12 kilometers.
You can have a million wind tunnel fans blowing (not just butterfly flapping), but if there are no cold air (downdraft) and warm air (updraft), you will never get a tornado, just end up with lots of wind.
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The bulk of what you say is not wrong factually.
But it is wrong nevertheless because it is contextually wrong.The butterfly effect is a phrase that encapsulates the more technical notion of sensitive dependence on initial conditions in chaos theory. Small variations of the initial condition of a nonlinear dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system. So this is sometimes presented as esoteric behavior, but can be exhibited by very simple systems: for example, a ball placed at the crest of a hill might roll into any of several valleys depending on slight differences in initial position.
There is also a curious certainty in your statements which bothers on naivety.
The phrase refers to the idea that a butterfly's wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that ultimately cause a tornado to appear (or prevent a tornado from appearing). The flapping wing represents a small change in the initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large-scale phenomena. Had the butterfly not flapped its wings, the trajectory of the system might have been vastly different.Causality
Note the bold parts.
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Causality or causation denotes the relationship between one event (called cause) and another event (called effect) which is the consequence (result) of the first. [1]
This informal understanding suffices in everyday usage, however the philosophical analysis of causality or causation has proved exceedingly difficult. The work of philosophers to understand causality and how best to characterize it extends over millennium. In the western philosophical tradition explicit discussion stretches back at least as far as Aristotle, and the topic remains a staple in contemporary philosophy journals. Though cause and effect are most often held to relate events, other candidates include processes, properties, variables, facts, and states of affairs; which of these comprise the correct causal relata, and how best to characterize the nature of the relationship between them, has as yet no universally accepted answer, and remains under discussion.
"In the western philosophical tradition explicit discussion stretches back at least as far as Aristotle"
In Eastern philosophical tradition, it goes back even further... Taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism...
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Don't just be an expert in IT lah... there is more to life than 1010101011011Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Chim... I have no idea what's the study of emergence....
I did not mention "an explanation to everything" although I did say "Theory of Everything" and the "Theory of Everything" hor... is not trying for "an explanation to everything";Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:For those who prefer an explanation to everything or who are materialists... you can call it the "Study of Missing Links". Introduction to TOE (Theory of Everything)
As much as I would like to laugh with you the joke you made and close the matter, I feel that it's wrong not to point out the misconceptions...
Theory of everything (TOE) in Physics is a theory that unifies the > four fundamental forces of nature: gravity, the strong nuclear force, > the weak ...
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OK the answer is actually COMPLEXITY and Emergence is one of the things that the study of COMPLEXITY deals with...
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i tink the hottest skills are
(1) construction
(2) welding
(3) ship building
(4) chief
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