Hi, I have came across some articles relating to normal stream students and is very interested to know more about the current situation as I have already left secondary school for more than 10 years.

Articles that I have came across below:

1. 4 in 10 in Normal stream can't get into poly
http://news.asiaone.com/News/Education/Story/A1Story20080117-45458.html
 
2. Sec 5 class advised: Go to ITE instead
http://news.asiaone.com/News/Education/Story/A1Story20080115-45033.html 

Also attached below is a survey that I have created on the need and current situation of a normal stream student. Would appreciate if you could help by taking part.  Thanx

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=N5PL_2fel8mQQmLxXSRA_2bEnw_3d_3d

my view are, normal stream are just the same as express.

i wont do the survey.

my view is normal stream should not be seen inferior than express.

end of story.

Originally posted by Daisuke-kun:

my view are, normal stream are just the same as express.

i wont do the survey.

my view is normal stream should not be seen inferior than express.

end of story.

 

are u in normal stream?

Originally posted by Maith:

are u in normal stream?

nope

i'm express.

Should not even have normal streams...

Originally posted by eagle:

Should not even have normal streams...

I agree!

Originally posted by Daisuke-kun:

nope

i'm express.

relac ar..why angry,firefist ace :D

im from normal stream

My experience?

Being from a bad enough neighbourhood school. Express students are great actors and backstabbers. Nuff said'.

I've been in Express as well as Normal.

ITE is changing its image. It's going to be consolidated into bigger campuses like polytechnics.

I had good friends from normal stream. But of course got the guai lan ones also!

Wow.. Relax man Daisuke-kun

To be honest, I am giving maths tuition to my neighbour who is in Sec 3 normal Academic. I understand from "feedback" that she couldn't understand what her teacher is talking about and its hard to find help from her friend as well as they are equally bad. 

I was in express stream 13-17 years ago and help was everywhere. Cannot understand what happen now. So I went down to Popular Bookstores to do some research and below is a sample of what I found.

For Sec 1: Total Assessment Book = 29

Express                                   = 18/29 or 62%

Normal Academic                  = 3/29 or 10%

Normal Technical                   = 2/29 or 6%

Others (Just indicate Sec 1) = 7/29 or 24%

I was thinking of starting something for the normal stream. Henceforth the need for this survey. Hope that clear any misunderstanding.

As far as I am concerned, whether normal or express stream, everyone should be given equal treatment and equal support.

i was normal stream in sec 1. But i worked my way up to express at sec 2! woot~!

i am a normal person... so of cos i am from normal steam.. anyone got a problem with that??  v

i tink ppl get tis misconception tat express are better than normal

express are taught fast

but tat does not mean tat they learn fast.

whereas normal are taught at a slow pace.

therefore both are equally good.

So with my explanation above, can I have somemore response for my survey please to clear my curiosity..

 It just a short one that takes less than 2 minutes.

what normal stream offer suxs. make you go take those combine science subjs, which are kind of useless if you ever want to go jc.

all those h2 science subjs require pure science, which is not offered in normal stream.

so normal student at best can go arts stream in jc.

and anyway, i find it kinda wierd to call it "normal" stream, when like majority of the students are in express. so what should you call those express ppl? "normal"? "abnormal"?

Originally posted by deathmaster:

what normal stream offer suxs. make you go take those combine science subjs, which are kind of useless if you ever want to go jc.

all those h2 science subjs require pure science, which is not offered in normal stream.

so normal student at best can go arts stream in jc.

and anyway, i find it kinda wierd to call it "normal" stream, when like majority of the students are in express. so what should you call those express ppl? "normal"? "abnormal"?

Something like what I heard in primary school during photo taking

"The tall ones stand in front, the taller ones stand behind"

Originally posted by deathmaster:

what normal stream offer suxs. make you go take those combine science subjs, which are kind of useless if you ever want to go jc.

all those h2 science subjs require pure science, which is not offered in normal stream.

so normal student at best can go arts stream in jc.

and anyway, i find it kinda wierd to call it "normal" stream, when like majority of the students are in express. so what should you call those express ppl? "normal"? "abnormal"?

er...expresso?

I was wondering normal already, still come out with NA and NT.

The express stream is far better during the old syallbus

Most people in 5NA who score 7-10 points are having problem now

but now is different due to new syallbus the N level standards is  much higher

and I think that next year O lvls for NA will be better more ppl going in poly.

If your talking about the old syallbus chances of getting to poly is not that high

as N level paper differences between the O level paper had a every huge difference.

i currently give tuition to sec 4 NA students in my secondary school. 1 thing i have to  say is that the difference between Na students and express students is the attitude and performance in certain core subjects such as english.What i believe is that the different streams is to group similiar people together.This to a certain extent helps prevent the "contamination" of people which as i said earlier is the difference of attitude. Therefore i believe it is unfair to say that there should be no streams. In essense the grouping is to allow teachers to teach at a pace that is most efficient and prevent express students from learning poor values from Na students such as laziness which i find is a common trait amongst most that i know.( i was in ncc so i had platoonmates that were NA and NT

Originally posted by gunner77:

i tink ppl get tis misconception tat express are better than normal

express are taught fast

but tat does not mean tat they learn fast.

whereas normal are taught at a slow pace.

therefore both are equally good.

This is utterly nonsensical. The express are taught fast because they haven proven themselves capalable of handling and learning at that pace through psle. This is not forgetting that though normal are taught at slower pace they are also TAUGHT more watered down subjects such as combined science. 1+1 =/= 11

I normal but still go poly lea .

Is how u study lar .

I was from the normal stream - couldn't get  into express even though I met the average mark just because I flunk the mother tongue on a continual basis.

I am doing my PhD now and I speak 4 languages fluently . What a joke.

Originally posted by pistonf:

This is utterly nonsensical. The express are taught fast because they haven proven themselves capalable of handling and learning at that pace through psle. This is not forgetting that though normal are taught at slower pace they are also TAUGHT more watered down subjects such as combined science. 1+1 =/= 11

i have seen express students retain at sec 3 and still need 5 years to complete secondary school. so is tis wat u mean by "proven themselves capable or handling and learning at that pace through psle ?"