Ah Bengs, Ah Lians and Japanese Culture
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huh, ah bengs n ah lians only ah, where can forget the ah sengs n ah hueys.
if they r not my friends, ok lah (none of my business). if they r my friends, jia lark, no peace liao.
ya, i think we singaporeans should bring in more japanese fashions,musics etc. but not their culture, who want to learn them anyway, u ah??? -
Thre has been a tremendous change in the Japanese realm in terms of culture...Back in the ancient times, woman are taught to be family based and also to be a virtous wife, upholding their moral and values. Presently, the morals and values have been atrociously brought down due to the introduction of pornography and prositution for the high school gals.
They are too inculcated to the western culture even interms of music, most of the rock bands are influenced by Boy George using heavy make up and coloured long hair as well as cross dressing.(Like Shazna and Luna Sea..just to name a few)...They are very good in the musical talents and also composing.Maybe it is a gimmick to attract young adults to listen to their music. In terms of technology, I think Japan is very good at modification rather than R&D of new products...and it is really a good way of retaining brain and human resources..(Which I think is very smart of them)I still remember the very first CD player is first introduced by Phillips and Sony just got the prototype and do some remodification in some of the components as well as the package and design, it has surpassed Phillips in the sale of CD players when it first came out...If there is an anology, I would say that Japan is a very good scanner or photocopier, replicating the exact infomation and just doing some improvements in the design and package..Hey presto!A "new" product is out for grabs!!
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Wat exactly is considered Lians/Hua & Bengs/Sengs?
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scarlet: good question you posed. issac, would you like to qualify what you mean first?
barclays once wrote about better representation in another thread. perhaps you could show the link between the entities you posed, i.e. show a line of thought, in order that others can engage in dialectic instead of throwing words together and hope someone contributes? your thread looks potentially interesting and it would help if you proposed an argument or a statement for us to sink our teeth into.
cheers
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Terence:
Thank you
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Fiddle Dee Dee! I will not think about it now, I will think about it tomorrow! -
i am ah beng, i am ah seng, i am ah huat, i am geek, i am nerd.
oni thing i am not is paikia.
uhrm, maybe wat he trying to say is you notice a lot of so called "ahbeng n ahlian" wearing clothes wif jap wordings, dressed up like jap teens, listening to j-pop... hyuk
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why not call them "je pun lian huey beng seng" (translated to english means "japan lotusflower celebrities") hahaha...
let them be lah, dun tell them to yamete lah. (yamete in japanese means "dun do it anymore, stop it!!!") -
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Terence, you are probably the only one who remembered what I wrote. :p
I am not sure what this thread actually purports to prove/disprove or even to critique? It's probably trying to link the beng-ism to japanese influences, although the originator presupposes too much on the ability of readers to construct their own thesis. It also offers the originator a safety zone to distance himself away from any resulting flames by saying, "That's not what I said."
Isaac, being evasive aside, (and other posts too) show an alarming ignorance of historical continuity. Perhaps this is symptomatic of the tyranny of the present.
Remember the Far East kids? Checkers? Extremely baggy pants and multiple hair dyes? Well, J-pop has always been part of Singaporean teen life simple because it is a big part of HK and Taiwanese life. Alan Tam's greatest hit "Peng You" was a Japanese song ... and his contempories, Leslie Cheung had numerous hits which were originally Japanese songs. The biggest tearjerker on SBC 8 in the 1982-3 was O-shin. Beng-ism is profoundly influenced by HK and Taiwanese culture and the Japanese influence is through that avenue.
The point I'm making is that for people like Isaac, only the present is accountable for itself. The lack of self-reflexivity for history continuity continues to puzzle me ... but this could be tied in with a general world trend of condensation of the simulated present. As Eco writes, "we are living in the Middle Ages" ; the present continuous and the flatness of time.
cheers.
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japanese culture is important though. It is most impt in learning the language if u r now. As if u dunno the culture , u might turn out to be rude or disrepectful if u tend to be with the japanese or in japanOriginally posted by adrian xtc:huh, ah bengs n ah lians only ah, where can forget the ah sengs n ah hueys.
if they r not my friends, ok lah (none of my business). if they r my friends, jia lark, no peace liao.
ya, i think we singaporeans should bring in more japanese fashions,musics etc. but not their culture, who want to learn them anyway, u ah???
for example , before the japanese eat they will say " itadakimasu" , when u finish n as a form of saying thank you for the meal they say "gochisousama deshita"
this is not onli the language but part of the culture.
bowing to each other is also their culture.
Culture is still very impt in this aspect . -
U FUCKING NAIVE PERSON!!!!!Originally posted by Seraquiel:japanese culture is important though. It is most impt in learning the language if u r now. As if u dunno the culture , u might turn out to be rude or disrepectful if u tend to be with the japanese or in japan
for example , before the japanese eat they will say " itadakimasu" , when u finish n as a form of saying thank you for the meal they say "gochisousama deshita"
this is not onli the language but part of the culture.
bowing to each other is also their culture.
Culture is still very impt in this aspect .
WHAT THE HELL FUCK U SAY ABOUT SPEAKING THEIR MOTHER-FUCKING LANGUAGE TO GAIN THEIR RESPECT?????
U BLOODY HELL......I THINK U ARE A CHINESE AND U DUN EVEN BOTHER TO APPREECIATE THE CUSTOMS AND GRACE OF A CHINESE AND U ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT FUCKING MIDGET JAPANESE??
I NEVER SEE A MOTHER FUCKING JAPANESE SAY "GONG XI FA CAI" OR OBSERVE CHINESE TRADITION
GO GET A LIFE U BLOODY JAP BOOTLICKER FUCKER!
U RESPECT THEM WHEN PEOPLE TREAT OUTSIDERS LIKE SHIT?
U PROBABLY SEE TOO MUCH JAPANESE AVGIRLS IN SCHOOL UNIFORM THINKING THEY ARE POLITE AND FUCKABLE IZZIT?
U KANANI BU CHAO CHEEBYE!!!(TRANSLATE THAT IN JAPANESE IF U CAN!!!)
U HARDLY HAVE ANY POST ONLY TRY TO TEACH PEPLE JAPANESE SHIT.DUN ACT CLEVER LAH.
AND DUN FUCKING ACT JAPANESE LAH!
COME KISS MY ZHU ZA TANG ASS!!!
------------------now now... i ain no hurting no body
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waaa....though what u say is quite rude but in some ways a agree if u too.Originally posted by Diablo 666:U FUCKING NAIVE PERSON!!!!!
WHAT THE HELL FUCK U SAY ABOUT SPEAKING THEIR MOTHER-FUCKING LANGUAGE TO GAIN THEIR RESPECT?????
U BLOODY HELL......I THINK U ARE A CHINESE AND U DUN EVEN BOTHER TO APPREECIATE THE CUSTOMS AND GRACE OF A CHINESE AND U ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT FUCKING MIDGET JAPANESE??
I NEVER SEE A MOTHER FUCKING JAPANESE SAY "GONG XI FA CAI" OR OBSERVE CHINESE TRADITION
GO GET A LIFE U BLOODY JAP BOOTLICKER FUCKER!
U RESPECT THEM WHEN PEOPLE TREAT OUTSIDERS LIKE SHIT?
U PROBABLY SEE TOO MUCH JAPANESE AVGIRLS IN SCHOOL UNIFORM THINKING THEY ARE POLITE AND FUCKABLE IZZIT?
U KANANI BU CHAO CHEEBYE!!!(TRANSLATE THAT IN JAPANESE IF U CAN!!!)
U HARDLY HAVE ANY POST ONLY TRY TO TEACH PEPLE JAPANESE SHIT.DUN ACT CLEVER LAH.
AND DUN FUCKING ACT JAPANESE LAH!
COME KISS MY ZHU ZA TANG ASS!!!
people so engross in jappy-teeny-weeny-poppy stuff.
guess that guy really needs to impress more japanese people to get into their good books loh..
"speak japanese"
hai.....what a joke that is.... -
ah beng ah leng and jap culture....where got "click"?? i don see any things to compare between them and jap culture......
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There is absolutely no need to screw someone in that manner. He has not been offensive in any way and he has raised some definite points concerning japanese.Originally posted by Diablo 666:U FUCKING NAIVE PERSON!!!!!
WHAT THE HELL FUCK U SAY ABOUT SPEAKING THEIR MOTHER-FUCKING LANGUAGE TO GAIN THEIR RESPECT?????
U BLOODY HELL......I THINK U ARE A CHINESE AND U DUN EVEN BOTHER TO APPREECIATE THE CUSTOMS AND GRACE OF A CHINESE AND U ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT FUCKING MIDGET JAPANESE??
I NEVER SEE A MOTHER FUCKING JAPANESE SAY "GONG XI FA CAI" OR OBSERVE CHINESE TRADITION
GO GET A LIFE U BLOODY JAP BOOTLICKER FUCKER!
U RESPECT THEM WHEN PEOPLE TREAT OUTSIDERS LIKE SHIT?
U PROBABLY SEE TOO MUCH JAPANESE AVGIRLS IN SCHOOL UNIFORM THINKING THEY ARE POLITE AND FUCKABLE IZZIT?
U KANANI BU CHAO CHEEBYE!!!(TRANSLATE THAT IN JAPANESE IF U CAN!!!)
U HARDLY HAVE ANY POST ONLY TRY TO TEACH PEPLE JAPANESE SHIT.DUN ACT CLEVER LAH.
AND DUN FUCKING ACT JAPANESE LAH!
COME KISS MY ZHU ZA TANG ASS!!!
They are indeed courteous and polite to the extent that sometimes we feel ashamed of our own behaviour. Morever they are also gracious and to me that is perhaps a trait we shd pick up.
In any case, Seraquiel has not overly praised them to the extent of ball-licking. Flaming someone just for the sake of it serves no purpose.
When ppl read ur post, they may think u simply have a vendetta against japanese and would despise anyone who wrote favourable views on them, nothing more. -
OH REALLY! LET ME REPHRASE OK???Originally posted by Diablo 666:U FUCKING NAIVE PERSON!!!!!
WHAT THE HELL FUCK U SAY ABOUT SPEAKING THEIR MOTHER-FUCKING LANGUAGE TO GAIN THEIR RESPECT?????
U BLOODY HELL......I THINK U ARE A CHINESE AND U DUN EVEN BOTHER TO APPREECIATE THE CUSTOMS AND GRACE OF A CHINESE AND U ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT FUCKING MIDGET JAPANESE??
I NEVER SEE A MOTHER FUCKING JAPANESE SAY "GONG XI FA CAI" OR OBSERVE CHINESE TRADITION
GO GET A LIFE U BLOODY JAP BOOTLICKER FUCKER!
U RESPECT THEM WHEN PEOPLE TREAT OUTSIDERS LIKE SHIT?
U PROBABLY SEE TOO MUCH JAPANESE AVGIRLS IN SCHOOL UNIFORM THINKING THEY ARE POLITE AND FUCKABLE IZZIT?
U KANANI BU CHAO CHEEBYE!!!(TRANSLATE THAT IN JAPANESE IF U CAN!!!)
U HARDLY HAVE ANY POST ONLY TRY TO TEACH PEPLE JAPANESE SHIT.DUN ACT CLEVER LAH.
AND DUN FUCKING ACT JAPANESE LAH!
COME KISS MY ZHU ZA TANG ASS!!!
U NAIVE PERSON!!!!!
WHAT U SAY ABOUT SPEAKING THEIR MOTHER- LANGUAGE TO GAIN THEIR RESPECT?????
......I THINK U ARE A CHINESE AND U DUN EVEN BOTHER TO APPREECIATE THE CUSTOMS AND GRACE OF A CHINESE AND U ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT MIDGET JAPANESE??
I NEVER SEE A JAPANESE SAY "GONG XI FA CAI" OR OBSERVE CHINESE TRADITION
GO GET A LIFE U JAP BOOTLICKER!
U RESPECT THEM WHEN PEOPLE TREAT OUTSIDERS LIKE SHIT?
U PROBABLY SEE TOO MUCH JAPANESE AVGIRLS IN SCHOOL UNIFORM THINKING THEY ARE POLITE AND FUCKABLE IZZIT?
HAVE SEX WITH UR MOTHER SMELLY VAGINA!!!(TRANSLATE THAT IN JAPANESE IF U CAN!!!)
U HARDLY HAVE ANY POST ONLY TRY TO TEACH PEPLE JAPANESE.DUN ACT CLEVER LAH.
AND DUN ACT JAPANESE LAH!
(i am not changing this sentence cause i still think u should.......
COME KISS MY ZHU ZA TANG ASS!!!
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OH REALLY! LET ME REPHRASE OK???
U NAIVE PERSON!!!!!
WHAT U SAY ABOUT SPEAKING THEIR MOTHER- LANGUAGE TO GAIN THEIR RESPECT?????
......I THINK U ARE A CHINESE AND U DUN EVEN BOTHER TO APPREECIATE THE CUSTOMS AND GRACE OF A CHINESE AND U ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT MIDGET JAPANESE??
I NEVER SEE A JAPANESE SAY "GONG XI FA CAI" OR OBSERVE CHINESE TRADITION
GO GET A LIFE U JAP BOOTLICKER!
U RESPECT THEM WHEN PEOPLE TREAT OUTSIDERS LIKE SHIT?
U PROBABLY SEE TOO MUCH JAPANESE AVGIRLS IN SCHOOL UNIFORM THINKING THEY ARE POLITE AND FUCKABLE IZZIT?
HAVE SEX WITH UR MOTHER SMELLY VAGINA!!!(TRANSLATE THAT IN JAPANESE IF U CAN!!!)
U HARDLY HAVE ANY POST ONLY TRY TO TEACH PEPLE JAPANESE.DUN ACT CLEVER LAH.
AND DUN ACT JAPANESE LAH!
(i am not changing this sentence cause i still think u should.......
COME KISS MY ZHU ZA TANG ASS!!!
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i agree with diablo but even though people may find what he says to be harsh it's not gonna be worse than what Japanese people did in the past to Koreans/Chinese people.
I'm not saying you should be abusively insulting to every Japanese people but if you feel you don't need to give some of them the respect they deserve then by all means.
today's Japanese are not responsible for what happened in the past but you can't deny the fact that they still haven't officially apologised for what they have done.
I don't want to bring up sensitive topics of the past so let's just let it go... -
Drifting back to the topic... it seems several of us would like to explore the evolution of culture at the local level.
Perhaps this website may shed some light upon the matter, http://www.engrish.com.
What's obvious is the 'innovative' use of the English language by both the Japanese who are fluent in their mother tongue (one could call them Japanese heartlanders) and the Chinese Singaporeans mentioned in the title of this thread.
Enjoy.
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Kim Lai
Founding Partner, myCar.com.sg
http://www.mycar.com.sg
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i m not boot licking any one or what , i am just stating that learning ones culture is important.Originally posted by Diablo 666:U FUCKING NAIVE PERSON!!!!!
WHAT THE HELL FUCK U SAY ABOUT SPEAKING THEIR MOTHER-FUCKING LANGUAGE TO GAIN THEIR RESPECT?????
U BLOODY HELL......I THINK U ARE A CHINESE AND U DUN EVEN BOTHER TO APPREECIATE THE CUSTOMS AND GRACE OF A CHINESE AND U ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT FUCKING MIDGET JAPANESE??
I NEVER SEE A MOTHER FUCKING JAPANESE SAY "GONG XI FA CAI" OR OBSERVE CHINESE TRADITION
GO GET A LIFE U BLOODY JAP BOOTLICKER FUCKER!
U RESPECT THEM WHEN PEOPLE TREAT OUTSIDERS LIKE SHIT?
U PROBABLY SEE TOO MUCH JAPANESE AVGIRLS IN SCHOOL UNIFORM THINKING THEY ARE POLITE AND FUCKABLE IZZIT?
U KANANI BU CHAO CHEEBYE!!!(TRANSLATE THAT IN JAPANESE IF U CAN!!!)
U HARDLY HAVE ANY POST ONLY TRY TO TEACH PEPLE JAPANESE SHIT.DUN ACT CLEVER LAH.
AND DUN FUCKING ACT JAPANESE LAH!
COME KISS MY ZHU ZA TANG ASS!!!
It dosen apply onli to japan ? it applies to other countries, especially when u r picking up a foreign language . It is an essential element.
but if u were to compare US singaporeans with the japanese , we are far from them.
There are gd n bad too. I did not say they are the best after all.
N dun always think that we SINGaporeans are always right. Maybe u could travel more and see more b4 u use those words on me or anyother pple here.
u can dun accept what i say but maybe some one here might agree to what they say .
cheers this is juz another public forum for us to post our opinons .