Monks at 12 girls band concert
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Last Friday, I attended a concert by China's 12 girls band.
I really enjoyed the show until I saw two monks getting to leave just before the end of the concert. Are monks allowed to view pop concerts where the performers are twelve gorgeous china chicks. Also they seemed very ill mannered to leave just before the end of the show?
My take is that they are afraid to be seen by the public as they also came when the lights were dimmed and the show had already started.Those monks really make me rethink my leaning towards buddhism. Money mad priests and monks relishing female performers. I am
strengthening my believe in being AGNOSTIC.
Why aren't monks like these censured. They give the religion a really bad name. When a layman follows a religion, he asks himself these
questions:
1. Is this a practical religion to follow. Does it make sense. Can it stand close scrutiny and sustained questioning by skeptical minds.
2. Can I live up to the religion's expectation of me. Sure doesn't want to be a hypocrite.
3. Are those who practices this religion as a professional, ie. such as monks nuns etc. whose example in their conduct of life is something
I can emulate. They should set an example of the kind of high ideals I can achieve if I were to follow their teachings. These two monks who
wore saffron robes to a show that is full of attachment because they are watching twelve gorgeous looking China chicks with rebonded hair
and sensuous figures sure doesn't set a good example.
Another bad example in recent days is the function put up by some tibetan buddhists at the vacant lot in Sims Avenue near the Aljunied
MRT station. As I walk around, I see it as a "pasar malam" promoting various knick knacks that is supposed to bring wealth and prosperity
instead of a function celebrating Buddha's birthday. Everything has a price and the idea probably is that if you buy, you will be prosperous.
Let me tell you that I am throwing away all the buddhist literature that I have accumulated and instead spending my money on wealth creation self improvement books and books on shares and stock investments. I feel that I have wasted many many hours reading rubbish. If I had spent my time more productively by reading up on investments, I should by now have been laughing all the way to the bank instead of being perplexed, confused and let down.
And to hell with conmen and lustful paedophile priests, monks watching beautiful girls under the cover of darkness and pork eating monks who
wants to taste meat but at the same time wants to be a higher being than ordinary folks. I tell you, the whole thing stinks.
Buddha himself, did not specifically dictate (while he was on Earth) that monks should not eat meat or pork. You cannot choose or make "special request" from your givers when you go for alms. Whatever they give you, you eat, as long as it does not contain ten kinds of prohibited meats, for practical reasons as forest practitioners. The Mahayana tradition added the strict adherence to vegetarian food basically because they believe
Buddha had taught about this practice in Heavens.
My view is that whatever you eat, it involves killings. If you think you could avoid killings by eating vegetarian food, then that's delusion at its
height. The moment the farmer plough his land, many worms would be killed. When the farmer wants to protect his crop, he killed the insects that come to feed on his crops. Thus, eating even vegetarian food, is still eating the end result of killings. The clearer mind would recognize that our living is based on other live forms' sarcrifices. Thus, we should treasure this most so to make good use of our human life form to achieve Nirvana and in return, help these live forms that make their sarcrifices to progress as well. Thus, no matter what we eat, we must feel grateful to all those living beings that make their sarcrifices to make our living possible. Chant for them and transfer all merits due to our practices, to them. This is the most fundamental practice.
According to the strict precepts that monks must adhere to, watching dance or entertainment performances are prohibited. If they are really ordained monks, they have breached the most fundamental eight precepts..
In any religion, groups or organization, there will always be black sheeps around. Don't give up your long journey just because of few grains of sand in your shoes.
There will always be, the good, the bad and the ugly in every religion.
And Who's NEXT!!!
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Maybe they are just two botaks and you thought they are monks...?
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shd make them your victims.
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i'm botak and I'm not a monkOriginally posted by WinBoi84:Maybe they are just two botaks and you thought they are monks...? -
Story..
As the monks continued on their way, the one was brooding and preoccupied. Unable to hold his silence, he spoke out. "Brother, our spiritual training teaches us to avoid any contact with women, but you picked that one up on your shoulders and carried her!"
"Brother," the second monk replied, "I set her down on the other side, while you are still carrying her."> -
GoldBerg is skin head...Originally posted by Bill GoldBerg:i'm botak and I'm not a monk 
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If the two monks are really black sheep, then they should not be wearing monk robes to the concert and to be criticised.
They are there to listen music and appreciate art.
They have nothing to hide or ashamed of being a monk.
Please dun any how slap your accusation.
If your faith on Buddha is so simply shaken by the act of some individual, that can mean that your faith is not strong.
You follow Buddha's teaching to improve your understanding of life, not as a ruler or gauge to judge others. -
ya. i think they are there to enjoy the concert.
about the entering late and leaving early part...well, to avoid ppl like u? cos they are afraid of gossips and stuff..so they try to avoid crowds after and before concert
monks are humans too, cant they even enjoy music? maybe they also attend other musicals but you are not there only.
dont be too quick to judge
and lastly, yes i am aware of monks who keep pornography and hoard temple monies, these are the black sheeps...every religion have this kind of d*ckholes -
oh, lastly...some monks eat meat too... ... but they eat the meat of animals that died a natural death (ie. old age). they did not slaughter them for food.
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got see those tt do hip hop dance onot?
nowadays these "chu jia ren" bery modern one hor....
i see them using handphones and laptops ok......dun pray pray..... -
interesting.
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must pray pray lah, they are monks lehOriginally posted by FireIce:got see those tt do hip hop dance onot?
nowadays these "chu jia ren" bery modern one hor....
i see them using handphones and laptops ok......dun pray pray..... -
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Bill Goldberg, I totally agree with you. Black sheeps will always exist in our society. I would refer them as corrupted individuals. They are everywhere...not only in religions.
But don't make those black sheeps shaken your faith in your own religion. I believe religion should be individual, what you perceive from a religion itself may not be the same as what others have perceived.
So hold on to your faith and continue to believe in what you think is righteous in your religion. Afterall, religion is there to make their believers a better individuals and never to corrupt them.
I hope you can regain your confidence in your religion and hold on to your faith once again.
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Monks can also go niteclub liao, why not a concert ? I dun see the big deal here!
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point: what does being a monk gotta do with enjoying music?
or are you saying that the general audience there are not there for the music but there to perv at the women?
then the women in the audience are lesbians??
what are you trying to say?
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I think for monks to behave holy and act religious, they should all stay in their temple and order vegetarian pizza from Pizza Hut.
Hmm...don't they have a lots of things to do in their temple, like area-cleaning and reading sutras? Maybe those monks that we saw outside are all the AWOL-monks? -
Originally posted by Bill GoldBerg:
so monks are only allowed to view concerts whose performers are not that gorgeous ??
Last Friday, I attended a concert by China's 12 girls band.
I really enjoyed the show until I saw two monks getting to leave just before the end of the concert. Are monks allowed to view pop concerts where the performers are twelve gorgeous china chicks. Also they seemed very ill mannered to leave just before the end of the show? -
r u sure they r real monks?
these days got those fake monks wearing monk robes going around HDB estates asking for donations. illegal though, n i heard the news sometime ago tat some were arrested. i even encountered one at my home. he asked my father for donations, n my dad believed him n gave him a little money. then he gave us a card wif a picture of buddha on it in return n left.
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i saw 1 monk near the old tampine road temple, carrying a PDA on his hand, and a bluetooth...Originally posted by FireIce:got see those tt do hip hop dance onot?
nowadays these "chu jia ren" bery modern one hor....
i see them using handphones and laptops ok......dun pray pray.....
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what the hell..............sure or not? so high tech?Originally posted by shifeng:i saw 1 monk near the old tampine road temple, carrying a PDA on his hand, and a bluetooth... -
what's wrong with that?
you want them to sit in a cave all their lives?Originally posted by Bill GoldBerg:what the hell..............sure or not? so high tech? -
Monks cannot watch concerts? lol.....
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whats the point of becoming a monk if u still do everything other people do? monks are supposed to pu du zhong sheng or whatever it is they do what. if u are a monk u still go see girls dance and stuff then whats the point? might as well not become monk right.
I agree with Goldberg and I shall hereby deem all of you as full of Shit. -
so i figure, the RenCi abbot fella cannot do anything anymore..
there are "pretty filmstars" and whatnot during his fundraisers too..