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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
hahaha ok ok come i explain
this is macau. macau once colonised by the porteguese. So they drive on RHS of veh like us. is like hong Kong also colonnise by british. I wuun be suprise if Shanghai ppl also RHS drive.
next thing i will point out is just only 2 years, macau they start to fit EDS on their buses. hwaaahhh.
If u had been to Macau, u will know that msot of their bsues is the 10m 11mm or 9m type. hardly adeuqate for the locals to get ard on bus as very squeezy. i have mentioned in this thread ebfore 'as bus was packed, i cannot take interior pics"
see above pages for more macau bus taken by me
btw i had taken the pic of that model of bus. till now wondering what model, dun think is King Loong. i guess is Huang hai bus
cheers
Yes, Macau was once colonised by the portuguese, but thats not a reason why the traffic in Macau drives on the left (same as sg). Portugal drives on the right, not left.
The reason why Macau drives on the left is because most of their cars was imported thru Hong Kong, which drives on the left.
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Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:
You can grab the double-deck buses from any other routes, you can avoid having it lay over at Yishun Interchange, but there's still one big problem.
Have anyone of you seen the trees along some of Yishun's roads (especially Yishun Street 61)? Those trees are so low and so near to the road I can't really imagine a double-deck bus go through them - unless the trees go through heavy pruning or are removed altogether - and removing them is not going to sit well with nature lovers (such as myself), as well as people who will complain the loss of tree shade.
Yishun wasn't really designed to be double-deck bus friendly - and it's not just the bus interchange, but virtually the whole new town.
Yah, thats exactly what i meant... most of the yishun streets have pretty low trees...
They better not go cut trees just for 1 bus every morning which passes by the area... i'd rather have my shade and fresh air compared to a seat on the premium serivce.
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Originally posted by SBS9816E:
The reason of why it is London > Beijing > London is because of this:Another relevant article:
http://www.blackukonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=477&Itemid=1Not quite really,
Quoted from: http://www.omnibusologist.com/new-buses--coaches.html
When Red Ken Livingstone was still Mayor of London, it had been planned that this particular ADL Enviro 400 would be driven from London to arrive in Beijing in time for the 2008 Olympic Games. When Boris Johnson and his Tory administration took over, however, it was decided that it would be far too expensive and the publicity exercise was abandoned. Subsequently, I delivered it to a bus and coach operator in Birmingham.Edited by XiaoTaro 26 Aug `08, 1:46AM
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Originally posted by SBS8033D:
then 858 cannot use DD liao.As one time in Your Own Deployment Fleet(Part II),Someone wanted DD to go to Changi Airport.Has restrictions to height.So 858 cannot use DD.
I am only showing an example of services that should be using dd due to the nature of the service. I do know theres a height restrictions in both Changi Airport and Yishun Int. But should this restrictions be a deterrent to better bus services and a better transport network? The road to victoria peak in hk has a bridge with a height limit of 3.9meteres, does that mean no dd can run on this road?
We are talking about future possibilities, SMRT depots cannot accommodate deckers now too, but we aren't still discussing about this topic? Who knows what will happen years later? Maybe the entrance of yishun int will be demolished to temporary accommodate for deckers? Maybe cga will create a separate bus terminal accessible via crystal movers?
For the height limit for the bridge, special 4.19meters dd are being used on this road to overcome the limit. Everyone is happy, the govt dont need to demolish the bridge, bus co dont need more drivers to drive single decks, passengers dont need to stand too.
There are always challenges that ppl (in this case smrt) have to overcome, it dosent mean that by avoiding, the problem will be solved.
Edited by XiaoTaro 15 Aug `08, 10:44PM
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Originally posted by Oceane:
OK here's the thing. LTA wants SMRT to stop buying bendies, for whatever reason LTA states. Meanwhile, almost all SMRT depots and a few interchanges are not DD friendly. If LTA does not want SMRT to buy bendies, the only way SMRT can replace bendies next time is 1) buy alot of rigids or 2) buy DDs.
Buying alot of rigids does not make alot of sense because they take up more parking space. Just imagine, would you buy x number of DDs and take up Ax area in a depot, or buy 2x number of rigids that take up A2x area in a depot? (A stands for the area that a 12m bus takes up) [Assume that a DD is twice the size that of a rigid since both are on average, 12m long buses.]
Thus, the best way to replace bendies that retire in the near future is to have DD as the replacement. I do believe LTA wants SMRT to buy DDs because a bendy takes up much more space than a DD (18m VS 12m).
Now I will throw in a few questions, and you guys ponder about it.
1) Is it fair to have SMRT change their infrastructure for storing double-deckers to be DD-friendly solely? Do you think LTA should sponser SMRT funds to convert their storage facilities into DD-friendly places? Bearing in mind the fact that LTA approved SMRT to use bendies many years ago.
2) If you are in charge of LTA, would you want to help SMRT with the conversion, or simply lift the bendy-ban so that SMRT can replace older bendies with newer bendies? Which one do you think is more beneficial?
Think about it.
Actually, in my opinion, bus companies in sg shld have rigids, artics, and deckers for the different purposes.
Rigids should comprise of the larger majority of the fleet, operating trunk services and not-so-heavy-load feeders like what is being done now. However, rigids becomes a problem when population grows, which means more rigids are needed to carry more people, and worst of all, not many sg are willing to work as a bus driver.
Deckers are good for moving lots of ppl at once, but its less convient for feeder services as most would not move up to the 2nd level. In fact, i believe services in smrt such as 969, 858, 966, etc should use deckers. These services brings passengers almost directly to the destination. Giving them a seat will definately make them feel more comfortable whilst on the expressway compared to a bendy.
Now for the artics, the main purpose will be for feeders, and services with lots of boarding and alighting along most of its route. Passengers can board faster, alight faster, thus causing lesser delays. A dd will have to allow all the alighting passenger alight before passengers boarding can make their way futher into the lower saloon and upper saloon. (not really always, but when theres alot of passengers alighting, thats usually the case, e.g svc 30 at hbf).
Well, then again, theres also a possibility that lta wants to remove/modify the feeder system to adapt for the distance based fare system. In that case, thats another story.

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Originally posted by SMRT BUSES LuvER:

When i was surfing the net, i came across to this pix that is similar to SMRT's Dennis Lance! Btw, where is this place? Pix courtesy from fizse82.
IIRC, this should be now be in one of Triton's fleets in Malaysia. Naeila doesnt exist anymore, went defunct already.
There's also some Malaysian built lances in NZ too.
http://www.busexplorer.com/PHP/MidPage.php?id=2679Edited by XiaoTaro 12 Aug `08, 12:50AM
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Originally posted by nenepokey:
do u still hav the link? cuz i dun seem to be able to find.
Scania K-series - Wikipedia:CAAS ordered 4 Scania K230UB with Euro V engine and Soon Chow bodywork similar to SBS Transit's Volvo B7RLE. It operates free shuttle from Terminal 3 to Budget Terminal. City Sightseeing in Singapore ordered 5 Scania K230UB with Euro IV engine. It consists of 2 batches, batch 1 is blue and green in colour, batch 2 is brown, orange and white.
Edited by XiaoTaro 11 Aug `08, 12:27AM
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Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:
Should be Spain, directly from Hispano's factory. Mercedes Benz (then) manufactures the chassis in Germany then delivers it to Spain , Hispano's Factory to do bodywork. THen it is flown here. Should be like that if im not wrong.

Yes that's right, but theres the later part of the story. From the news article it states the vehicle was driven from Spain to Frankfurt, Germany where it boarded the cargo plane bound for Singapore.
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Well since its the offical opening of the Olympics in Beijing, here's some photos of Beijing's buses.

京华 BK6111CNGZ3 on Service 14
Iveco CNG powered, 12m, Euro 4, Hybrid aircon, Stepped boarding
京华 BK6141D2 on Service 7
Iveco Diesel powered, 14m, Euro 3, Articulated, Non aircon, Front engined, Stepped boarding
黄海 DD6118S11 on service 120 (break?)
Cummins Diesel Powered, 12m, Euro 3, Non aircon, Stepped boarding
京华 BK6125DK On Service 60 (with faulty eds?)
Cummins Diesel Powered, 12m, Euro 3, Hybrid aircon, Stepped boarding
Unknown, CNG Powered
And some random shots...


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Originally posted by ftjj0298:
Answer : 12 bus stops
Tampines Ave 2 (2 bus stops) 8, 18, 28, 38, 518
Tampines Ave 7 (2 bus stops) 8, 18, 28, 38, 168
Tampines Ave 1 (2 bus stops) 8, 18, 28, 168, 518 (68 does not stop there)
Bedok North Ave 3 (6 bus stops) 18, 28, 168, 228, CT18Pasir Ris Drive 3 (3 bus stops)
Blk 626, Aft Blk 601, Blk 500A
Services: 58, 88, 358, 518, 538Fullerton Road (1 bus stop)
Fullerton Square
Services: 128, 538, 548, 558, NR8
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Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:
I would say the Lances have the worst suspension, especially so since it has air suspension, which is supposed to be more comfortable. Nissans ranked second from the bottom since it has leaf springs (steel) suspension.
That said, i've yet to encounter any Nissans that has loose axles or whatsoever that generates those kind of irritating cling and clanks when moving. Therefore at least it should score better than the lances. I've taken before a Lance on 853 whereby the entire axle suspension produces those irritating knocking sounds for the entire journey.Same, the lances has really horrible suspension, although there's a few exceptions e.g tib939 which has slightly better suspension. Although Nissans has leaf springs, the soft seats compensates for hard suspension. smrt's o405 has good suspensions, but i would prefer the b10ble. It feels so comfy when it passes through the slope on Jurong town hall rd.
Anyway, back on topic. Will surely miss the nissans, although i dislike to take it during peak hours on 852, its a total different experience during non peak hours where the driver seldom stop to drop off or pick up passengers.
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