Originally posted by Ccffsg:

Please can someone tell me something, are there any couples/ppl in their 30's or 40's that dont have any children yet?

I dont mean to be biased or anything but I have found it really difficult to meet people that do not have children.  It seems that when couples reach "certain age" they have a desperate calling to breed.

If there is someone out there that is having the same problem  that I am, it would be good to make friends here.  Though we are not young anymore but we still want to have fun and not sit around talking baby stuff.......

you can request them to PM you better to make it a confidential matter so as to maintain each and everyone's personal classified informations.

if i could..i would go back to the time whereby i was working..

having a joint account doesn't hurt feelings..

it's a sense of trust and mutual agreement that the money can be touched only when both parties agree to draw it out..

however you can still have your own separate individual savings/current/master account for your own usage.

it's a long list of problems when it comes to $_$ but when dealt correctly, it will be able to do wonders..  ^_^ $_$ ^_^

only a foolish naive gal who's living in a well will reply back..

such a template..

10yr kid also can come up with such templates lor..

try ordering the same noodles with hotdog and fishballs next time..

if it's the same as per last time..

than get another colleague of urs male to buy the same..

if the display is different, than maybe you can sue him for sexual harrasement..

Originally posted by Peaceman85:

My friends from both DW and enyouth had confirmed that their bosses were related and their top management do not deny on this. I also heard from my friend in DW that the bosses of VE, Enyouth and DW bosses were of the same "team" before they start their mlm company. As for VE side, I have not found out anything yet, maybe someone from VE will like to tell us VE view on this?

 

I heard from the VE side that they claimed that Enyouth (and its former name) is older than them. If I am not wrong, VE started just after the mlm act, if Enyouth is around before that, what are they doing?

 

Some USA companies such as forever are already operating in China now, but they are doing the retail way but at the same time, they are building their "network" Since mlm is still illegal in china, they cannot benefit from their "network". The reason why they still do it is because once mlm become legal there, they can go all out immediately since they already have their network in place. Maybe that's what they were doing in singapore before the mlm act.

interesting...

can do the rough mind map up on the links between DW and other companies since the top management came from the same company previously..

it has being in my mind for a very long time already to draw a mind map out about all different mlm companies to sum up all the links ties of various different companies found in singapore/overseas..

Originally posted by elementalangel:

singapore should just ban mlms from selling certain products, eg: health products

this will never happen..

coz there's lots of reasons why mlm should stay..

but nonetheless there are more blacksheeps than whitesheeps..

so just be careful.

Originally posted by soleachip:

when you cannot find a belt, forget where you left your jeans, socks or misplace a cell phone, no one else will know, no one you can blame, no one can help call to find it.

the minor inconvenience and chores add up. weekdays are spent working. if you work late, kopitiams are closed. when you come home, all you want is home cooked food waiting on the table. but since you live alone and you have no maid, there is no food. so LL order mc donalds or eat bread or maggie mee.

by friday night you've worked so hard, relished in so much bad food and silence, you  just want to catch up with friends so you go out late into the night, come home, crash. wake up on saturday.

dedicate saturday mornings to running errands, to banks etc. afternoons to cleaning up your place, car, dishes, laundry. if you're lucky you'll finish everything in 7 hours.

as for sundays, if disciplined enough, then will stock up on things like toiletries and maggi mee, groceries, shampoo. open up all your bills, letter, clear all necessary paperwork.

this kind of independence, the later it arrives the better. it's grown up responsibilities, no one likes them.

with a house pet, additional responsibilities, more time consuming.

why would anybody want to show that they can take care of themselves? hehehe... cleaning the toilet and dust from the fan is not as glam as it seems leh.

won't be long before you start feeling haggard and wonder whether you've officially become an uncle or auntie, worst if you start behaving like your own parents.

you hate it, resent it, and want to join your friends at the beach on sunday... so suddenly, all you want is have your mom or dad do everything for ya the way it used to be!

maybe u haven't read my reply clearly..

i did mention it's an early preparation of family etc...and the earlier we learn to take up these stuffs, the faster and sooner we can lessen our own bunden in future..

imagine when there's a rush of buying of home, marriage, child,,,new wife..4 problems one shot come together..it'll make ur head blow man..especially those shot-gun marriage..poor thing..

well..i've being living with my mom since my birth..and i found the common problem of guys having to live with their silbings problem already harassing me for more than a few years already...

arguements, disagreements..don't even talk..

well the only stuffs we do talk is to talk back and interupt each other's lecture section..lol..

i've got enough of my family's bad habits..

rather than living off my mom, and having to like make and do with what elder sister and brother..i'll just move out for good..as soon as i can earn my own money..

if nothing goes wrong..i'll start off by working home-based..thus having a comfortable home has always being on my mind..in fact a home office based type of home..

get what i mean..

we all gotta face up to reality and take responsiblitilies where it's due..so why not take it up early and show our parents that we can take good care of ourshelves thus they can have a peace of mind and not worry about us.

Originally posted by soleachip:

I'm trying to avoid that.

You finish work, come home, eat alone.

When you have a bad day at work, no one to relate your biggest grouse.

When you have a particularly good one, there's no one be jealoused of you.

If you call your friends, they're all having dinner with their own family. No one is free enough to entertain you 24/7.

You live alone, sleep alone, eat alone, wake up alone. If you forget your house keys, that's it. No one to do your laundry, boil the water, get coffee/toothpaste/asprin when you're out of supply. No one to wake you up when you miss the alarm.

Fall down at home also no one will know. There are no pros. Only cons. And so goes everyone else I know of who lives alone. They are constantly calling friends up to have dinner together, to hang out together, inviting people to go to their house, but not everyone is free everyday. Weekdays are the worst.

It's a sickening situation everybody avoids.

 

well, at least by staying alone, it shows that the person can really take care of himself/herself if the place is neat and tidy rite?

with the fact that living alone is a sign of financially independent isn't is?

the only thing which i feel is that gotta do all the housework ourself..but it's a preparation for family in future isn't it?

how many of you guys and gals like to move out and live on your own?

even the thought counts..

this has being always in my mind since we moved house few years back..

moving out and living alone does have a lot of benefits rite?

anybody here who lives alone or had lived alone before can share the pros and cons about it?

Why not start off by joing TNP New Face Competition..Fast Track to being a model since it's being highlighted by the media..

I think they organize it every year rite?

Originally posted by Torandoz_88:

Hmm.. i dun tink she feels it lor.. Or if she felt it i tink she dun even care de. Are girls like tat?

i think u being 20..since ur 88 stands for 1988...

than ur sister must be younger than you and doesn't understands your feeling nor thinking taking it as normal for silbings to touch each other..not knowing what's right or wrong..

better set a good example..if you aren't being banned..or if u switch to other forums..

Originally posted by delores:

I married him for 8 yrs. We had 2 beautiful kids. To everyone, I was the lucky girl to marry a handsome,charming hubby whose family is quite well to do. then the 2 children. A girl followed by a boy are making a lot of people envy. People like my neighbours are wondering.. a plain jane like me is so fortunate. life is good for me.

No one knew we had an open relationship. He is indeed very charming as a friend , a boyfriend, a lover but not a hubby.

 

He loves to fling. Right from the start till now... it had been 10 long years. I thought I could just close one eye to it. I conhabit with him, got pregnant then a shot gun marriage at early 20s . Now I am coming to 30. I changed, he did not , he is still the same old guy whom I knew 10 yrs ago.  His list of flings became longer, cos new flings are always added to the list and the old list remained.

 

I am surprised. Some flings are indeed challenging, some girls wanted to let me know that they are around, some girls just want to have the flings even accomodate to his needs and wants. He did not pay for them or pay for their living like some guys did. But the flings just love him. He got the charm to have the free fXXk.

 

I am confused and tired. He wanted the family and also his flirting ways. I scared of the diseases that he may brought back to the family. He loves the excitement of meeting new girls. This is something I cant do.

 

I love him till this moment but I dunno what I shld do.

I am terrified of these girls. I am also scared of getting hurt somemore, 10 yrs is enough. I dun want to wait for him at home while he go out and fXXk those girls. This type of pain is really getting unbearable. I know some may tell me in this reality world which guy dun fling. Maybe there is really a minority of guys who are really faithful when they are in the relationship. I dun want to be a bitchy wife who fight with other woman over my hubby. If it belongs to u, it will be yours.

 

I really dunno how to hold on to this relationship, he said he doesnt know how to love and what is love. So what am I doing in this relationship for the past 10 yrs.

 

He say he was trapped to the marriage because of the baby.

I wanted to return his freedom back to him, shld I ?

There is a saying if you love somebody, you shld let him be happy.

So if I returned his freedom to him, he will be happy  i suppose.

 

I am a loser rite?

 

u're not a loser but rather a winner..

having tolerated him for 10yrs..

which is a wife candidate that every guy dreams of and for that you should be proud of yourself for making it this far in a marriage despite a unfiathful husband..

if you can't stand him..just file for divorce since u have the every right for him to do so..

make sure u prepare ur kids for the divorce and have them grow up in a happy family at least with ur relatives and family members..

i'm sure that your parents will support u if u tell them the truth..

there's a saying "a leopard will never change it's spots''

so if u are sick of his life..file for divorce..else it will be mentally stress for u to keep up the healthy image of a good family shouldering the bunden by yourself and keeping it away from your kids..

Originally posted by xueclare:

I am alone and new comer here. Tomorrow is my birthday.

 

But I don't know how to spend it.

 

I am sad......

well..at least u still have free time to ask frens out to celebrate with u..else the desperdos in this thread who will than PM u to offer their "help" to celebrate it with u..

unlike me who spent my 21st brithday in Live Range shooting SAR21..haiz..

if there's anybody who dun wanna get a degree for the seek of working..

than why don't consider doing their own business or find other means of survival skills?

at least i dun think i'll take degree..for the next few yrs..since i got my method to earn money..

i have being wondering..

since few years back..

i've being listening to only songs and dramas that are rommance based story lines and lyrics..

i also happen to believe in finding a serious gf instead of finding one just to get the status of being attached..

what type of songs & dramas/movies do u guys lisen and watch ar?

any links of it to do with our character?

Originally posted by ChiBet:

I am actually saying start a con job company posing as MLM

but again, its true that not many people can go into the con job business

there's a lot of other easier ways to con ppl for their money lor..

why go the difficult route when u could choose the easier route?

haha..

newspapers already got so many typical examples liao le lor..

Originally posted by ChiBet:

is it considered to be cheating/unfaithful to my spouse if i sleep with another woman?

no sex just falling asleep on the same bed.

emotionally =>> YES!!

physically =>> NO!!

does it answers ur question?

why they focus on people who have join them and encouraging distributors to buy more is because to make them into believing that they will get more benefits by buying a higher rank in order to earn more overriding commission as like in insurance and property etc.

but newbies dun understand such will eventually get tricked by them into believing it's good but in fact it's not good for singaporeans as the compensation plan structure and model aren't suitable for Singapore due to the size etc.

well, be happy that you got quality replies so far..

if there's those ppl who just post nothing but stuffs like

...

+ 1

NPNT

some lame remarks not related to topic..

than you'll be in for a long ride of disappointment to starting another thread..

haha..

well back to the thread..

cheating..

to each has their own definition..

but i would agree with the fact that for those cheaters..they definitely got a reason to cheat..which is their partner are too boring..

1 - take legal actions against him including trepassing of property..haha..if it's okay to use it..not sure if this is accepted in law terms..

haha..

2 - report police file a record lor

3 - go to the car company and cancel that car or simple tow it away and scrap it to metal if u can bare to let it go..

the fact that you're honest to your gf is a good +

the other thing is that she's a very good and understanding GF another +

but she just got to be a bit more 肚量 by learning to trust you and those sort of things..

i duno ur exact age, but if you're working..

try looking for some adventure based courses or trips to increase the trust between u and her.. join those trips and courses which are conducted with both genders..

Like OBS that sort of things and let her see how u interact with other gals with u around, and eventually she will open up by then to be the near perfect gf/potential wife that every guys dreams of..

Originally posted by ChiBet:

any mlmer knows that the only way to make money in a MLM company is to stay at the top of the pyramid

start a MLM company, get your friend to join by promising him a top spot.

this way, you get to help your friend + con other losers out of their money

win-win situation.

just be prepared to leave the country in a moments notice incase you are investigated for fraud

haha..

misconception..

be it if you're the first or the top few guys in a mlm company..

what if u sucks at sales presentation to clients and thus not making any cent from it?

starting a mlm company without understanding mlm can be a big mistake but it in fact is a very dangerous idea as it's a mobile franchise business.

the other thing is MLM is okay..just that a lot of ppl misuse MLM.

A gun in the hands of a law enforcer is a helpful weapon but if in the hands of a killer, it's a bad weapon..

Simply put it this way..there are a lot of NEGATIVE MLM DISTRIBUTORS than compared to the POSITIVE DISTRIBUTORS in Singapore..thus the minority are having a hard time..

Izoukerl: u need to check it out with ur camp. there are some camps whereby they aren't that strict with memo card in it..just make sure no camera device/function in it. even if it's being disabled also cannot coz that's the latest update which i heard of a regular in my camp..

H3aven: u refering to cheap 2nd hand phone or cheap new hp with basic functions?

go attend those free seminars and open up your options of various ways of earning revenue VS income than decide which one suits u best.

dun jump into mlm when you know nothing about it.

it took me about 2-3 yrs to fully understand the pros and cons of mlm at the price of my reputation back then..

consider carefully if u want to jump in..

and be careful of scams these days..

inexperience ppl usually will kana scam without them knowing..