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Originally posted by redstone:
Ah I see.
Humility. Do u have it? It means humble, be humble and stop calling people loser. Or how bout I use another word? Tell me what word shall I use.
Also I would like to find out, why, just why do VE agents, not just you but many Ive seen. Calls ppl who leave as losers. Just one simple question. Why.
You're treating your downlines as "commodities"? Those who do not sell are not worthy of being coached and kept within the company? What happened to the "brotherhood" and the "close family" that some agents appear to preach when recruiting? False friendliness...
But however yes if anybody has no interest in a field he/she should quit for brighter jobs.
Oh well, that's just your opinion...
Anyways, I am not 'other' agents... So dont associate me with them... If they want to preach about being friends bla bla bla... Then its them, not me... I made it clear to my prospects that I am not going to be their good/best friend whatsoever... They are just my business associates... That's all.... If they want to be friends, than it's outside of VE....
If they quit for their own passion and dreams then so be it... I call them loser... So? Does it change anything? No... So why dwell so much on it?
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
your examples are not really fantastic
in mlms in SG. majority of the mlmers are actually school dropouts, thus mixing with them would bring you no where.
i believe you have misunderstood what mark34 said.
he was trying to say that not everyone likes mlms and thus no point forcing others to join (i think)
Another baseless claim... Do you have proof on this? Or is it just what you see / assume?

As time passes by, people become wiser... Elementalangel, seems you are going backwards...
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Originally posted by eagle:
actually hor... shouldn't waste much of your time here if you are that busy...
for me, i spend time here because i try to help pple out in hwk forum when possible... so different...
Nah, I can spend sometime here... I'm in RP... So in sch, I have nothing much to do and I can use the internet for as long as I'm here... Just entertaining myself here...
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Originally posted by BrUtUs:
u do the rite thing gal! this guy deserve it... since he so psycho, u no need meetup wif him... chances are he will come find u... now is the stage to cleanup the mess.... hv mental prep tat when he appear infront of ur house... so gotta b firm... oso meetup wif ur frens too so they can provide sarpot when u need it...
Thanks...
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
white soul reaper. do u know what is a mlm?
a mlm is just a medium to sell things. akin to opening a shop.
so what u are trying to say is that if best denki can open a shop and do so well, why not the rest right? everyday we see so many shops closing down, does that mean that selling through a shop is not a better choice than being in/ working for an mlm?
seems to me that you only read what you want to read... My philosophy is "if MLM is not for you then dont join"... BTW, opening a shop requires lots of money and maintening it too is also costly....
Indeed MLM similar to opening a shop is a medium... But you too have to consider the costs difference... that's why many shops close when they run out of funds to maintain their shops...
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Thanks for all your suggestions... He SMSed me last night and said that it's over between us... And this morning he wanted me to take him back... I made the decision to break it off... I am not prepared to be in a relationship that can lead to marriage for now.
And now he keeps calling and sms-ing me to take him back...I am not going to as it will lead to nowhere.. The thing is, should I meet him personally to say that its over? BTW, he does have violent tendencies when he's angry... Kind of scared to meet him though...
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Originally posted by redstone:
That being said, do not drag people down just for the sake of having one more downline. Don't use tactics to make people believe mlm is the best. Not everyone is interested in sales job. Not everyone is interested in a job with unstable pay.
It does depend on the person... As for me, I believe that MLM is the best... And you disagree... That's fine, we have different opinions... When I bring a potential downline down, I'll say MLM is the best because I believe so... If he disagrees than that's fine...No point having a downline who's not that passionate.. He wont do well and thus will waste my time...
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Originally posted by redstone:
If you think they deserved to be called "losers" I have no comment. Wait til one day you leave VE and people call you loser. I hope you're not calling them so just to retain them inside the company.
If they tell you that ppl who leave are losers, reflect on your upline's words. What if one of the uplines leave, are they are losers too? No? Those who call others losers need to learn some humility.
That day will never come... I know where my loyalty lies and that is with VE... BTW, why would i leave when I am doing so well here... I dont call them losers until they say leave... So, unless they have super powers to here me from 1km away, they wont hear of it...Upline quit... So what? Quit means quit... quitter = loser...
Humility... Learn and understand that word 1st before you use it...
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
people wont use the word exact when averaging unless they are retards.. u can ask around who would use the word exact when averaging
Like I've said, its up to you if you want to believe or not... You are JUST a NOBODY... No point saying to a BIG TALKER......
Only talk but no action... what loser you
are
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I am girl who is in 3rd year of polytechnic studies... I have a part-time job that earns me good money... So as you have read, I am super busy...
The thing is my BF thinks that i am not committed to the r/s because I dont spend enough time with him... I go out with him on most sundays.( sometimes go out with friends)... For the rest of the week I am busy with either school or work....
One more thing... He's very possesive, any time of the day he would call me for no apparent reason...And when he sees a guy talk to me, he would be very aggressive in the way he talks to that guy... WTH????
He's also studying but not working,,, So when we go out, i want to eat in a more expensive restaurant(can afford), he would drag me to the nearest coffee shop to eat... I dont mind paying for his meal...He could treat me for the movie or something... Everything he wants to pay...
Is sg that hot ? Every where he goes, he wears T-shirt, shorts and sandals... Nothing else... Even when meeting my parents...
I am a person with big dreams... And when i share my thoughts on how to persue these dreams, he ALWAYS puts me down!!!
We have been dating for 2 years BTW... Last night, he called and said that our r/s has strained... I thought everything was fine... And he blamed everything on me... He said that I should focus more on him...
How? What should I do? Is it really my fault that he feels that way?
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
yep no action at all.. =( better than a liar.. who expects us to believe that he is actually averaging everythign up. so you joined VE on 28 feb?
come on... everybody lies... Oh my elementalangel... Are you a saint? Dont tell me that you have never lied in your entire life before? Doesnt that make YOU a LIAR?as I have mentioned before, I was averaging it up... No wonder when you accused me of lying, I asked you for the post on which page you didnt want to answer me... You KNEW i was averaging it up... It's common sense:
You Quote : 3-4 months
I quote after you : 3.5 months
Your screw a little loose or are you just plain dumb... Or as usual, you are trying to find fault that is not there??? So typical of you... Doesnt that make you look a little low than usual... But nvm, I bet everyone here understands how childish you are already...
I am a liar(so is everybody else), But you elementalangel is a liar + no action... you're worse than most people here...
I did join on 28 feb...
So what happen? You mummy & daddy wont give you any more money? They gone bankrupt? Here's a solution, why dont you borrow from you grandparents and relatives? But be warned, you'll burn their money too...
A family of losers...
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Originally posted by redstone:
So why lable people who think VE is not right for them "losers"?
Why can't you wish them well rather than call them losers, as if they'll never do anything right.
Well, we did say 'all the best to you for your future endeavours'... when they left...Then we call them losers... So?
Whatever success they achieve in their future is non of VE's concern...
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TS,
I somewhat could understand your situation... My dad's a chinese and my mum's a malay... Lucky for you, the girls family could accept you...
For my parents, when they started dating, both sides of the family rejected to this idea.. I guess it was because of the mindset during that time,,,
From what my parents told me, they had lots of obstacles... From my mum's side, they tried to have an arranged marriage for my mum... But she strongly refuse... My dad side, his parents gave him the silent treatment... This was when they were just dating...
When they really got serious, my dad came to my maternal grandparents house to ask for my mum's hand of marriage,.. He didnt tell me the full details on this one...
When they got married, my dad convert to Islam BTW, my mum side was beginning to accept him... My paternal grandparents were still cold to him... Until my eldest brother was born...
About the name, no need to worry... I have a muslim name with my fathers surname in front...
Even if your parents say that they will disregard you as the eldest son, they actually wont... Even if the put it in action, in their heart, you are still they eldest... Just be patient and be strong... You could try and bring home your GF to intro to you parents.. But they will be very cold at 1st... Your GF must really learn how to impress them and be strong...
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