Originally posted by sv966:

Adding on to my previous point and attempting to steer this discussion in the right direction,

If we are looking purely based on the perspective of "need" as the title says, then I have the following recommendations:

- Service 190 and 960 require high capacity double deck buses that offer greater passenger comfort across an expressway journey

- Service 222 and 291 require bendy buses with three boarding and alighting doors to quicken up boarding and alighting activities along heavy loading points

- Paya Lebar Road/Upp Paya Lebar Rd needs bendy bus services in the interim before Circle Line is complete.  Most of the passengers in the industrial developments rely on the bus services as a feeder to the MRT station before and after work.  Single decks on Services 24, 135, 43 etc cannot cope with the demand while the double decks from 28 and 76 are not well-utilised because people are not moving to the upper deck, and boarding and alighting activity is slow.

Now that's what I call deployment based on NEED.  Not some random fetish or desire to see a particular model on a particular service.

But too bad that SBST does not have any bendies

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I grew up in the 1990s, turned six in 2000- the last generation of childern to grow up without technology completely taking over them. I still remember my kindergarden days. My kindergarden was in Bedok South that time. Kept on staring at the Volvo B10M MKIVs DM3500s in Bedok South on Service 12. No chance to board that time and finally boarded one in the early 2000s and loved it. I rided on a Merz DD O305 twice and I think I boarded a MKII CAC on Service 9 that time.

I still remember my days in kindergarden in the 1990s. My kingergarden was last time located at Bedok South. Still remember seeing those Volvo B10M MKIV DM3500s on Service 12 so many times but no chance to board. Finally got the chance to board a Volvo B10M MKIV DM3500 somewhere in the early 2000s.

Originally posted by Oceane:

I believe a better suggestion would be to loop about Bedok then chiong PIE to Bukit Batok and go downwards to CCK.

That's a good idea.

I've just thought of a brilliant idea. Maybe we should have a online petition on the annoucements.

Originally posted by Oceane:

There are. :)

BNDEP 222.

The next one I know of is BNDEP 35 which will only use it on weekends. 10, 23, 36, 12, 81, 15, 69, 33, 9, 197, 18, 5, 8, 81, 21, 518 and 222 also have perm MKIV DM3500s.  

List what you think here. Personally, I feel that Service 24 should start getting new batch of K230UBs to de-merzlise it. Why new batch? New batch does not have the bumper issue so it can enter CGA tunnel. 145 should get it too. Generally, Volvo B10TLs should be used on feeders/shorthaul as they use more fuel. All VO3x batch 3 should be used in CBD. On a side note, is it very common for MKIVs to be used on shorthaul/feeders?

Originally posted by ZYX2005:

i think 24 is worse. packererererer

 

 

Yes. It is miserbly merczilsed and I think it should get the new batch of K230UBs without the bumper issue. K230UBs without bumper issue can enter CGA tunnel. No need for MKIVs.

You are old when you are:

Hoping for an Aircon bus to come

Riding on a "superbus"

Originally posted by SBS1984E:

Yes. Those NACs ones.

Should SBST leave one NAC O405 unconverted? 100% of NAC O405's are now CAC.

I think age really does not matter as long as you love her.

Originally posted by jayh272416:

personally I think SMR would be better lah. But then since there's alr. the TIB rego, might as well stick with it.

I had also thought of SMR. We can have SMR0001A as the first new bus and TIBS merged with SMRT so there's no need to retain TIB.

Originally posted by TIB1224Y:

But then if said local market prefers ZF, then how leh...

ZF seems to be the norm here, 150 ZF B9TL versus 50 Voith B9TL...

Voith just doesn't work for all vehicles... Some B9TL bus captains say 'four gear' slower than 'six gear' in pick-up (initial acceleration)

While Habit Bendy BC would say that 'three gear' accelerate faster than 'four gear' ones...

It just depends on the combination... Curry works well with fish head, mutton, Asian food on general... But will it work well with french fries, burger and Western food? Not all the time.

Well, Volvo MKIV DM3500s are quieter than the Striders because DM3500 uses Voith while Strider uses ZF. Vehicles that are more suitable for Voith should use Voith and those suitable for ZF should use ZF.

I hope they don't get ZF gearbox. Voith gearbox is much more quieter.

I am turning 14 in June.

Originally posted by SBS7484P:

sads.. moi oso notch available cosh gotch mid year arh.. haiz

Since many people will not be available due to mid year, the organizers should really consider changing the date. Maybe one of the saturday afternoon during June School holidays?

Originally posted by sinicker:

can can can.

they'll consider a fare hike for its commuters first.

They can easily bring in more money by having more advertisments on it buses.

Originally posted by Oceane:

Firstly Striders uses ZF, DM3500 use Voith.

Secondly Strider got that super uber noisy radiator.

Maybe SBST should consider a Voith convertion for Striders.

Have anyone been on any quiet Volvo MKIV Striders? I boarded 2 or three of them before and it was noisy. I been on quite a number of Volvo MKIV DM3500. Most of the DM3500s are quiet while one or two them I have boarded is/are noisy. The noisy DM3500s just need some engine tuning by the respective depot to get it quiet. Wonder if it is the same for the Striders.

Originally posted by sbst275:

dunno wanna cry or laugh

at Shin Ming

someone wrote in to ask why SBS removed double decks from Sv 24 & 66

Service 24 has to enter CGA tunnel so double decks are impossible but I feel that service 66 should have DDs. It gets packed to the door.

Express 510 (fleet: Volvo MKIV Strider/DM3500)

Bedok INT
New Upper Changi Road
Upper Changi Road East
Simei Ave
Tampines Ave 5
Tampines Ave 4
Tampines St 41
Tampines Ave 9
Tampines Ave 12
Pasir Ris DR 8
Pasir Ris DR 1
Elias Road
[Tampaines Expressway]
Pungol Road
Pungol Ctrl
Pungol Way
Sengkang East Road
Sengkang East Way
JLN Kayu
[tampanies Expressway]
[Seletar Expressway]
Woodland Ave 3
Woodland Rd
Choa Chu Kang North 6
Choa Chu Kang INT

Originally posted by TIB1049L:

I won't be avalible due to Mid Year Exams as well.

It would be best to have it during June School Hoildays. 

Originally posted by Oceane:

Have you seen 27A use DDs?

No, but there was someone who suggested for 27A to use DD and I think it is good.

Originally posted by Oceane:

What's the purpose of 24 buses not entering CGA? It's an airport service.

To serve the majority who will be alighting before CGA, just like 27A