The reason is lined in 楞伽经。Hopefully is helpful to you guys

   这时，大慧大士又问佛说：“为什么学大乘菩萨道的人不吃酒肉和葱韭蒜等等？希望佛再告诉我们这些问题，及其中的罪福作用。”
    佛回答说：“有很多因缘，不应该吃肉，我现在但简略地为你说些。⑴因为一切众生，从本以来，自性同体，而且都会辗转互为因缘，彼此做过六亲（注四十八）眷属。所以基于亲亲同体的观念，就不应该吃肉。⑵驴、骡、骆驼、狐、狗、牛、马、人、兽等肉，屠者互相杂卖，所以不应吃肉。⑶肉类都从吞食不洁净的气味而生长的，所以不应吃肉。⑷其余众生，闻到肉食者的气味，都生恐怖心，例如屠户与猎者，狗见到了，都生出憎恶恐怖心，群起而吠之，所以不应吃肉。⑸又肉食使修行的人，不能生起慈悲心，所以不应吃肉。⑹凡夫愚痴所嗜，以臭秽不净，当做甘香，此中无善可言，所以不应吃肉。⑺使你学一切咒术，不能成功，所以不应吃肉。⑻因此而喜欢杀生，看见了动物形状，便生起贪瞋意识，贪欲不舍，所以不应吃肉。⑼食肉的人，是被诸天人所舍弃的，所以不应吃肉。⑽食肉的人，口气很臭，所以不应吃肉。⑾食肉的人，会多做恶梦，所以不应食肉。⑿食肉的人，如果在山林之中，虎狼都会闻到他的肉香，所以不应吃肉。⒀肉食会使你对于饮食没有节制，所以不应吃肉。⒁使修行的人，没有厌离之心，所以不应吃肉。⒂我曾说过，我们对于所有饮食，都作为是自食子女的肉着想，但是为了疗饥，所以便作为服药着想，所以不应吃肉。

in fact, i found different people have different tolerance to cold water, anyway after i played basketbal, i found i can hardly resist the extremely cold water.The best is ice water. But now,i feel bad when eating icecream, maybe my stomach have been hurt because chain smoking

Originally posted by Bodhi hut:

Rokkie,

自己修自己的，我觉的这是个实在的讲法，对大部分人来讲能修好自己就不错了，何必管别人呢。

如果大家都有这样的想法，那么这forum应该不会有人吧。。。在修当中如能碰到好的师傅和善知识，那我们的修行才能成长。。知识是分享，而不是那它来做一个比较的高下。要能接受他人的意见，因为我们自己的想法，是"我见"，如能听到他人的想法再分析，可对我们或那个人都有思想有帮助。

其实我只是认为，我们没必要强迫别人跟我们一样相信某种东西，除非他自己向我请教，我可不想热脸贴冷屁股，对大部分人来说能把自己搞好已经不错了。渡化世人，是好的，但是不必每个人都这样。至于来这个论坛，也是通过讨论来增加自己的见地。独学，而无友，则孤陋而寡闻。大家共同成长把

我'的确是不存在.但众生还是执'我',所以有无明,也可能堕落.
'无明'这个字在佛法里可是时常用到的,并不表示作者就反对'无我'

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如果拿佛法来说，你就是众生，众生就是你，

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把别人当菩萨是一种修行的方法,让我们消除我执,陪养谦卑的心.
所以当我们遇上一些奇怪的人,很难沟通,心地不好,处处刁难的人,就不会生起嗔恨心,也不会烦恼,造恶业.
当然可以分享佛法这很好.

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我觉的佛法是如果他不想学，你可以不教他，说明他因缘不够，不用把他当菩萨，也不用生嗔

u got ur point, but i cannot imagine drinking hot water, in such hot weather in singapore

自己修自己的，我觉的这是个实在的讲法，对大部分人来讲能修好自己就不错了，何必管别人呢。

Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

Yes agreed...

Also regarding 'planned', I know many patriarch and great masters purposely planned to take birth in a v poor family or born with some handicaps or things like that... it's called 'spiritual wealth'. Because it's a reminder that samsara is not comfortable as it may seem.

i think it's a ascetic manner,

Originally posted by Rick555:

Actually sometimes I don't even know whether my memory is real or not.  A lot of times, I felt it's more like me watching a show.  And my memory of that show fades as I aged.

Anyway, I try my best not to relish the past.  What's over is over, no use clinging.  Although sometimes not successful...

On the contrary, i think my memory is very real. I know what have happen, maybe sometimes what happen in dream is also real, but not so real as reality. In fact, we have to review the past, see what we done right and wrong, avoid the wrongfulness,continue the right, and i think some memory or past experience make what we are today. Someone said there is a soup called 孟婆汤，but it's just a fairy tale,Maybe there is time machine, so that we could go back to the past, and fix what we screw up,

thx for everyone's post, it's quite encouraging, but don't worry me, i in fact not unsatisfied, but i do envy successful man abit. To me, live a happy life is easy, but to achieve something in career concern, it's still not sure. Anyway i envy ppl who live a successful and happy life. Not the one successful but not happy. Wish everyone of u could achieve successful and happy life

good CEO ,director, investor, such position will be making his lecture more convincing, and, i haven't not really met any succesful man, who is a buddhist, look at myself, what a shame, I think he should lecture more on why he is successful.

i think Thusness maybe AEN's teacher or what, he seldom post, but any post of him means a lot

Originally posted by kramnave:

We can't have referendums all the time, thus the most logical step is to vote for a government to act on our behalf, whether or not that destabilizes the whole country as a worst case scenario every 4 years or so is another issue as we chose it etc. The only gripe now is that many belief that the voting system in Singapore is unfair and the result may not be a true reflection of what would be the actual outcome should we have a free press and without GRCs etc...

The gist of it all is that many believe is that the system is unfair.

but the problem is P4p is so majority, and they "surpress" the opposition party, when the opposition party make some gathering to promot their idea, P4P will depoly force to clear them, so when ppl don't have any chance to get to know the opposition party, how does this FAIR election could happen,

Originally posted by maurizio13:

Could be too. Either they were brainwashed or they chose P4P.

P4P's governance is taking alot and giving little back, therefore the retiring folks find it hard to make ends meet in their old age, they need to work.

 

i think they vote for p4p is they rather choose sth not so good ,better than sth unknown,

Originally posted by maurizio13:

Having credible people with good education and independent thinking is good, tis what a Democracy should promote.

But most of the time in a fake democracy we see close relatives of the ruling elite being put in positions to strengthen their position.

 

so democracy is not about talking, we must do sth, at least to fulfill democracy in the future, we must educate ppl.So that we are retional, critical thinking, then we would probably choose right out of wrong, that's the premise of democracy, i cannot imagine when there majority of ppl, are fool, and democracy represent majority, who wrong will it be.

Originally posted by Rick555:

I look at it this way.  When I looked at my photos I took years ago, that person in the photo seemed so distant.  He may look like me, but do I experience what he was experiencing at that time?  I may know he look happy, but in my current state, I no longer can feel that happiness.  Therefore, I am not the same person as in the past.

When we die, is the person who is reborn the same person who lived previously?  The answer is again no.  If it's the same, we would remember our previous lives, and we would retain our traits, but we did not.  Therefore we are not the same people as in the past.

So where is the self if it's ever changing?

unfortunately, our life is like one way journey, no way back, we cannot do anything help what we regret, about the reborn, i personally don't have any experience relate with that,help convince that it happen indeed. In fact what's transcendental didn't happen on me, what's dharma teaching for me is so real, and i personally don't experience such thing mystic in buddhism.

And you look at the photo, you no longer feel the happiness you felt, but it didn't vanish, it become your memory in your brain.And if you reborn you become something or someone totally different,you already cannot say that you reborn, because it's so different unrelated to you.

Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

Every moment, is a new 'self' or experience being born. Nothing remains. The seeming continuity of a personality, and our bodies which changes slowly, and so gives rise to the impression that there is a perpetuation of a fixed entity.

In actuality, every moment is there only when there is causes and conditions for the appearances. The continuation of personality (i.e. habits, behavior, and so on) are due to imprints, tendencies in our 8th consciousness that keeps on manifesting.

But it does not mean that there is fixed entity, it is just means the tendencies are there. The tendencies are not inherently bad, but we have to be always aware of them in order not to be 'overpowered' by our momentum. Some imprints are good (i.e. good habits), some are bad (i.e. bad habits, like smoking, drinking, etc). They can change. They are not a 'self'. And good thing they are not our 'inherent self', otherwise we cannot change our bad habits, or build good habits.

As for our body, we all know that every 7 years our cells are completely renewed, there is no part of the body that is unchanged after 7 years. But due to our genetic and various conditionings our body may still appear to look similar. Still, they will slowly age... if you compare a baby with a old person, you'll see. Our body is also not 'self', it is an impersonal functioning that changes moment to moment.

So there is not a thing that is not fixed, there is not a thing that has not arisen due to causes and conditions, they are all empty of inherent existence, empty of a self, empty of other. Dependently arisen.

cell renew every 7 years, does not means we are complete new or different, it's still who we are, i think we cannot change the inherent self.And probably it's good for us to follow and stick to the inherent self. We are happier to stay who we are.Yes there is nothing fixed, but within the life span of ourself, we are consistent, we have die anyway, finally become some ash. But according to someone we have walked in the world, and left something, maybe some magnetic wave.

Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:

That is why I say "full democracy" is not possible or desirable in politics.

But Switzerland has something like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy

 

this would mean the decision making process very long, and not good for the fast paced and fast decision making required society.

Anyway even the democracy you are talking about do not mean every decision they make are wise.

democracy is good, is like republic is better than monarchy, though it cannot solve every problem, but simply it's better than despot.When a society is occupied by certain amount of ppl with good education and indepent thinking, we always go for that, but this is just discussion i am not encouraging anyone to do anything abnormal.

Originally posted by kramnave:

Dude, then everybody would have differing ideas and theories of what democracy is. In the end LPPL because One very big reason why we can't have full democracy is we can't hold referendums all the time on every single issue.

what r u talking about, democracy means that we select our candidate to represent our wills. Of course we cannot hold referendums for every issue.

Originally posted by kramnave:

I can't tell if it'll be any different if they free up the press seriously but i reckon they should do that. People are already reading Gopalan Nair's rubbish. What can be worse ?

 

free up the media is a necesary step for a mature model of society. Trust we can judge what's right and wrong,

Originally posted by MohamedF:

And who did the Singaporean citizens agreed to run Singapore in the last election...

 

Perhaps you don't see the threat, but I do...Do you understand crowd dynamics...? People tend to be more brave in a crowd and have a sense of anonymity in the sea of people... They have the feeling of "I can do anything I want and no one would know"... It would be nice to have a peaceful protest in Singapore but can you imagine what would happen it that peaceful protest become violent riot IN Singapore?

We're not a big country that can recover from a riot easily. We're not a big country that "a big roit" is only contained in one town... If a big riot happens in SIngapore, it will spread from Boon Lay to Pasir Ris, from Woodlands to Marina Bay... Don't have to look far... the 1992 Las Angeles Riot involved the entire of Los Angeles all because of a court's decission of letting an African American killer aquitted... 2007, Tibet riot that started from a peaceful protest...

I can take risks, but what you're risking is the safety of the entire of Singapore... You must understand crowd dynamics to fully understand the danger when a group becomes a crowd...

when riot is in concern it's decided by how much people could tolerate the government's policy, In history people fight through wars, because we are not happy, and riot is not big deal, situation could always be settled, afraid of it, it's just like a baby want to learn run without fall, or ride a bycycle without fall.If people choose what we want to do, we are more happy to do it, not stay there and wait.

Originally posted by kramnave:

So whose version of democracy do we follow if "full democracy" is not possible ? There would be differing partial ones, no ? To insist one's version of democracy is the only democratic one would not be respecting democracy, no ?

i think they are not just talking about the"democracy", but at least some part of democracy could help. such as the suggestion Poh have made.

good suggestion, i agree. The problem is that government's ideology, he treat ppl like babe, parliament is occupied with elite with phD degrees, but sometimes, they do not see from laymen point of view. Under a stressed society, alcohol really relieve people, and cigar, this is probably the suggestion i would make. Anyway, we have right to decide what's good for ourselves.

Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:

But Singapore is a depoliticised and authoritarian society, that is why we talk about democracy.

Because there is none here.

so if you can participate in the parliment, what suggestion would propose?

Originally posted by kramnave:

I don't know, thats why I'm asking. If "full democracy" is not possible, then only partial democracy is..which is what we already are. So if everyone has their own version of what kind of democracy they like and they want. then whose democracy do we want ? In short, the democracy that we have is acceptable.

maybe you are happy now, employed ,good money, people who critisize the democratic situation, most not happy, everything seems not good enough.partical democracy is tricky, particial to what extent, maybe some of you are satisfied, but would the majority happy,