Originally posted by VTDK:

Thanks for reply. I am enlisting on oct 9 so need to be sure abt that one befor going in.

Just a gentle reminder,make sure that the packs you bring in are the duty paid kind.....not the "super value" pack that people get from Johor

 

 

Originally posted by Rednano:

most of the time, they r for ORDing personnel doing their ORD FFI...

When I ORDed,the dentist never even offer to wash teeth or anything....each of my friend go in and come out within 3 min with the dental ffi cert in the hand,lol!

 

The parting words said to my group was,"Becareful of the wisdom tooth and watch those cavities"

I guess you should be able to do it.They usually refer tooth extractions to hospitals or polyclinics but minor treatments like this they should be able to do it.

 

You have to make an appointment anyway so find out the nearest camp to you that has a SAF dentist,call them up and ask if they can provide such a service.

 

 

 

Originally posted by theunknow2:

thx for the guide :) i will think twice wheather i should report that i did a leg surgery b4 :)

You're welcomed.

 

Please do report it for safety sake.Don't need to think,just do it.

 

 

Originally posted by theunknow2:

but if PES C rig .. isit very hard to get into SPF or SCDF or other unit ?

PES status does not really affect whether you go SPF,SCDF or army.

 

SPF and SCDF has lesser intakes per year and each intake is much smaller than one batch of army recruits.

 

The reason is that they do not need as much manpower as SAF.So,if SPF or SCDF coincidentally have an intake just after you finish studying,then you might get a chance to enter them too.If not,then it is confirm SAF.

Medical records are classified,only your superiors will know.Your fellow buddies will not be told.Up to you to tell them.

 

Of course,nothing can be kept a secret forever and people will know sooner or later why someone got PES C or E through one way or another.

 

Maybe your friend used it because he is physically very healthy so use mental health as an excuse instead.He might want to play soccer or some sport so if he says he got leg injury,it would not look too good if his army boss catch him outside camp playing soccer.If he say he sees ghost,he still can play soccer or other sports at least.

 

Look down or not is depending on the individual.

 

Imagine,if you got to do guard duty at night but another guy don't have to do because he says he sees ghosts at night,how would you feel?Song bo?

 

The most ridiculous reason I have heard someone give to get excused IPPT was this:

 

1)Afraid to do sit up because he is afraid that his partner will look into his shorts and see his cock.He thinks his cock is too small,don't dare let others see.

 

2)Cannot do pull-up because it reminds him of people committing suicide by hanging themselves.

 

3)Cannot do any running because he is afraid that he will fall down halfway and people will laugh at him.He cannot take that kind of embarrassment

 

4)Cannot do standing broad jump because of the same reason above(Scared fall down people laugh)

 

There are so many other ridiculous reasons that I have heard that I can create a mini encyclopedia.

 

I cannot say confirm everytime can but I have seen many NSFs use mental problems as a quick route to downgrade.

 

Physical problems can usually be detected through tests and X-rays..etc.

 

Mental problem.....our technology not so advanced to see nightmares and ghosts yet.

 

If I say I see ghosts,can a person proof to me that they don't exist?What can anybody do?

 

If someone threaten to jump from tall building,can you tell whether that person will really do it?IHe might be laughing in his heart but what can anybody do?They suck thumb loh,lol!

Originally posted by theunknow2:

i got 1 frenz all station PES A but he got 1 memo from IMH doctor ... in the end he get PES C ... i was like wtf where got this type of thing 1

Sigh...another enlistee with mental disorders.

 

Unfortunately,mental problems is harder to certify than physical injuries.

 

If a person says he feels like committing suicide,who's going to doubt him?If I tell you that I see a japanese ghost trying to cut my xiao di di every night with a samurai sword,can you say that I'm lying and there's no such thing?

 

Originally posted by theunknow2:

my check up is last week n i can only get the memo from the doctor during Nov ... baikachuchu u thin isit too late for me to change my PES states ?

Do you have the exact date of your enlistment?

 

If you enlistment date is somewhere next year,there is still time.They will always entertain any medical conditions that you have to declare,it is their job.There is NO cut off date to declare medical conditions.

 

Even if you enlist before getting the memo,you still can report it and submit the letter to the SAF MO while you are serving.

 

I just want to remind you again,informing them of a injury you had before DOES NOT mean that they will change your PES status.Like I said,it depends on the severity of your injury and the type of surgery you went through.

 

 

Originally posted by theunknow2:

how ar ? becos my leg was not pain during that checkup . so i tot no ned to report that i did a surgery b4 ... after my frenz told mi that i ned to report all kind of surgery or illness that i suffer b4 to the MO .. :(

Your friend is right.

To be on the safe side,declare any kind of injury you had before,especially those that required surgery.Common illnesses like heat stroke can be deadly too.

 

Of course,to support your claim,it is better to produce medical records than just tell them verbally only.

 

Better be safe than sorry.

 

 

 

 

You might want to call the following number:

 

6373 1340

 

That is the general enquiry line of the MCC(Medical Classification Centre) at CMPB which decides on your PES status.

 

Tell them that you wish to inform them of a previous injury that you forgotten to declare during the initial checkup.

 

You might have to make an appointment with them first,don't think you can just go down like that.Prepare photocopies of the hospital documents that states the type of surgery you underwent.

 

Also,depending on the severity of the injury you had before and the type of surgery went through,they may or may not alter your current PES A status. 

The physical training standards may have dropped but what is more worrying is that the MENTAL STAMINA/TOLERANCE of the new generations is falling even faster!

 

Look at the increasing number of new enlistees reporting for mental disorders.Some even do 99 hit combo by adding family problem and physical discomfort along with it.Of course,most of them are genuine cases but I'm starting to loose faith after withnessing some fake cases.

 

I knew of one guy who claim to have EXTREME phobia and difficulty at socialising with other people as the reason for his mental problem.....on one of the book out days,I see him kissing a girl while in uniform and on another,working PT at MacDonalds going "Good Morning Sir,welcome to McDonalds,may I take your order please?" in a clear and loud voice......In camp,sit in office one corner and hug his leg while rocking back and forth

 

Before we fault the training standards,we should wonder if our new boys have started to grow marshmallows as brains.

 

If they are not mentally stable/prepared,even if we reduce BMT to a one day lesson on how to strip and assemble weapon,they still will not survive it.

 

 

The enlistment letter that you recieve say that you go SAF or SCDF?

 

If you going to SCDF,no point asking about SCDF stuff here,this is SAF forum.

 

Check the link below for SCDF topics:

 

http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1498

 

 

Flat foot is a very common condition,the deciding factor will be how severe it is.Most of my friends with flat foot ended up with PES B.Get your doctor to write a letter for you to give the MO if you intend to use flat foot as the reason to file for PES C.

 

For the mental disorder part,even if you could get a referal from the MO to see a psychologist from the hospital,you will most probably end up having to pay for it yourself because you still have not officially enlisted yet and not under CSC(Civil Service Card)/11B.

 

The good thing is that SAF also has its own MOs dealing with mental disorders so you might end up getting refered to a SAF MO instead and it's most probably free....that's if you want.Some people die die want outside doctor.

Originally posted by LXXG:

guys, i am not saying i am too good for rifleman or anything.

 

you see, in my mind, i was all prepared to be posted to signals instead..

 

i just wanted to find out if there's a reason why i am being posted to SIR instead. no offence at all. :(

Signals also train manpack signallers...and these manpack signallers get posted out to infantry,armour and even guards after their training.

 

Manpack signaller is rifleman but carry manpack radio plus your FBO too,wanna still be signaller?If got route march,they march too,field camp,also go.Attack mission?Chiong lah.

 

If you had gone through the IC2(Manpack) course at signal institute and get posted out to 4 SIR or any of the other SIRs or even armour or guards,would you still be complaining?

 

 

Please read the following links,thank you.

 

Exit Permit Faq

 

Exit Permit Faq 2

 

They can be found from the NS.sg website.

Originally posted by Ortiz:

ic.. so after all would you wrap it up as a xiong vocation or quite relax?

 

I do not know about the training so I cannot comment on that part but I have seen how drivers have a hard time servicing vehicles as it can be very time consuming.

Originally posted by Ortiz:

so i will be in air force school for my rest of ns time?

I have no idea but I think you will most probably go sembawang camp later on to learn the actual driving.

 

After completing the whole training,you might get posted to other air base.

Originally posted by Ortiz:

wah combat driver means xiong? oh no.. if the tank spoil i will be charged?

There's a common saying "Become a driver=half body in DB"

 

Well,if the vehicle gets damaged while you are driving,it is possible that you can get charged for negligent driving....but in most cases,minor damages can be written off.

 

Just drive as if you are taking a TP test like that.if you obey the speed limit and be alert,then you should never ever have to come across a situation like that.

 

Xiong part is probably maintaining/washing the vehicle.Clean bunk already sian..what's more about a tank.

Originally posted by Ortiz:

You are posted to AFS. 2. Your vocation is AFV DRIVER (V200). 3.  Your are to report to: Air Force School, Multi-Purpose Hall.

No Camera Handphone is allowed. Please bring along 4 passport size color photos, a set of PT Kit, photocopies of highest educational certificate, result transcript and own writing materials ONLY on the first day of reporting. FBO is NOT required.

anyone can explain what am i in to? like cfm stay in? siong?

Congratulations,you will be the proud new combat driver of the following LAV:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Gage_Commando

 

Not too sure about stay in part though.Anything to do with vehicles is usually xiong in the sense thay you got to be very careful when driving it and cleaning it can be quite a chore.

Originally posted by del_co:

anybody from Ninja got posted to SISPEC? 

anyway how slim is the chance for a person from SISPEC to crossover to OCS? and also what are the criteria if anybody knows?

del bro,

 

Like I said before,chances are very slim...the only thing I can advise you to do is aim for golden bayonet.That way you will have a good fighting case.

Originally posted by NG QIBO AARON AUBREY:

i get bronze for NAPFA. i haven't get silver in IPPT. i nvr clear SOC either

 

but i PES A so i think i can qualify for it. if ranger cannot then the guards sticker i can?

Do you know how many PES A guys there are in the army?If like that can qualify,you will see 10K guys walking around with ranger tab....diaoz

 

You want guards?Get posted to guards then and survive the GCC....

Originally posted by bernardyap:

HUH but i thought got 2 types? one is unit one is training center ?

You is go for combat engineer vocation training first than post to unit after the training.

It is for regulars only....

 

Also,you are PES A but have you passed your IPPT?In fact,silver is the minimum standard to be even considered for the selection test.

 

There is also the selection test round which consists of doing alot of physical exercises within a short period of time.

Originally posted by bernardyap:

You are posted to:AETC.

Your vocation is:ARMD ENGR PNR - SLB.

Your are to report to:Sungei Gedong Camp, BLK 30, RM #02-04.

can any kind soul guide me what is this cocation is and ... is it xiong ????? please i need guide......

To be honest....it is BLOODY XIONG.Enigineer Pioneer in an armour battalion or brigade....gg.

 

IIRC,there is only 1 bus service going there and that is bus 975 from cck interchange.

 

I have also heard of a shuttle service that transports the camp personnel from jurong point to sungei gedong camp but I do not know if it is still in operation.

 

I think your posting orders should have came with a map?

 

If not call the camp.

You mean the ranger tab on the side of his NO 4?

 

That one must go course than can get....

 

 

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/publications/cyberpioneer/news/2007/December/06dec07_news.html

 

I hope you are not planning on wearing it.Even if you could get it from emart,you must have passed the course then can wear it.