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Originally posted by TIB537B:
Coaches type public bus?--> The rims of MAN and the OC500LE, they look rather similar. Are they made from the same manufacturer of rims?
Germany manufacturers have an industrial standard within them. It is common that both Mercedes-Benz and MAN use same type of wheel and rims
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Citybus's NL262/R supposes is not WAB, they are full low floor bus
This is a photo took on a Citybus's MAN NL262/R:
This is a photo of a MAN NL262/R use on Cityflyer, a self-modified coach
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In March 2006, Citybus lauch Airport route A10 under its Cityflyer brand, form Ap Lei Chau to HKIA. Because the special operational condition in Soutern District, Citybus need a shorter and lower capacity bus for this route. A Dennis Trident is too big (although somtimes will have a Trident ), but Citybus does not have small coach. It decided to modified 10 MAN NL262/R from its original fleet(#1560-1569).
Citybus removed the center door, and replace it with 2 full size windows with a thicker column in between. 4 special one-man seats are removed and replaced with two baggae rack. All seats are removed and replaced with coach seats. At the same time, they add a platform at the rear part of the bus. So the coach version is a WAB, but the original one is a full low floor bus.
Original one uses Voith DIWA 851.3. Coach version uses the same gearbox at first, but the original tunning, which is excellent on urban area is not suitable for highway trip. They replaced with a D864.3 gearbox. If you want to try a ZF gearbox on MAN bus, you can go to discovery bay and try their single-door version of NL262/R and NL263/R. They are incredible smooth, powerful and quiet at first, but now get deterioted.
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Hi, I come from HK, and glad to see that MAN return to SG again.
Although this demonstrator looks like those Gemilangs in HK, none of those in HK are exactly the same with the demonstrator for SBST.
For the posted the links to HKiTalk, I can explain a little bit about those in HK.
There is 3 operators have MAN low-floor bus with Gemilang body.
The first one is the operator of the cross-border shuttle(Yellow bus). They are NL263/R, that means, a full low floor, non-step bus, with D2866LUH-23 Euro-3 engine and Voith gearbox.
The second one is Discovery Bay Transport Service limited( DBTSL). It has two different kinds. The first bus is a 18.280HOCL-NL(A69), a 280hp version of what SBST got. It is a semi-low floor, low entry bus, with D0836LOH engine. You can recognize with the high positioned rear seats, hub-reduction axle and the near-side radiator. The followers are Euro 3 NL263/R, which is similar to the one for Yellow bus.
The third one is New Lantau Bus(NLB). It is the first operator of NL273/R in HK. A full low floor, non-step bus, with a Euro4 D2066LUH engine.
The code system of MAN need a little time to get used to. xx.xxx can be used for any kind of MAN product. Numbers beyond the decimal is designed GVW in tons, numbers after is the engine output in hp. Someone pointed out that he discovered 18.240HOCL is a coach, it is correct. HOCL is a string explain how the chassis is designed. Because 18.240 HOCL-NL is modified from 18.240 HOCL, that's why it has same code. They have same design at the rear part of the bus, which is the platform area after the exit door. It uses a vertical engine, D0836LOH. D08 means 7L displacement, and LOH means vertical engine, which is different from LUH, a horizontal engine. NL means low-entry. Now, we can have a more clear view on the demonstrator for SBST.
The NL262/R in Citybus are considered as full low floor. There is no steps on aisle from the front door to the rear emergency exit originally. (Self-modified Airport version add a tiny step) It might be not impressive than the aisle of NL263, but it was an outstandind design in earlt 90's.
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