Originally posted by viciouskitty74:

When was the last time you saw a MP out in any hdb void deck after 5 pm?  Not counting the actual MP office.

 They got high pay leh... must make them work... hee... so late?

Wait?

If not can write in to them lar...  =)

Originally posted by dragg:

my sisters have been calling the police about the noisy group of malays at the void deck since over 2 years ago.  she even wrote in but nothing good came out of it.

these students are a nuisance, laughing and making a lot of noise in the middle of the night.  they usually leave before sunrise.

dont they have to go to school the next morning? dont they even sleep?  i wonder what their parents are doing.  didnt they even notice their children weren't at home throughout the night?

the police came many times.  we were told there is nothing they can do.  we were told to monitor the situation.  monitor what??? 

why cant the police take down their particulars and tell their parents and/or school?

isnt a gathering of four considered a riot?

is there really nothing that the police can do to stop this nonsense?

 

 

 

Hmm... if tell police then they not doing anything?

why not consider MP? since we vote them?

Originally posted by Hseoun:

I heard that somebody saying the other way round? Coz I prefer working in Airport. Is it true?

 Dont be too happy.... and cisco is security systems....  certis cisco then its the correct term to use....

check out their webby before you decide....  either one only perform duty at checkpoint... if you are looking at that direction...   change your mindset or dont waste your time...

http://www.certissecurity.com/sg/

http://www.aetos.com.sg/index.html

cheers

Originally posted by youyayu:

now i know why mas selamat gone missing..

protect some "use'FUL' " People

 I just finish scolding him...   dun be another victim...

MSK is under custody of ISD... dont make me repeat...  the whole world knows abt it... except you...

cheers

Originally posted by AlessandroTan:

heard from another squad that recently there is FI being complain.

 

he shout out that dun let mi c u outside or u die during first month training while all of us in push up position.

4 mi

most irriating person currently in HTA is FI segt Hasli.

 Young man.... do you know you are bounded by OSA?

What makes you think you can just reveal any name in the forum?

got complain go thru proper channel...

grow up...

period

Bo liao topic....

period

Originally posted by FireIce:

tts more like harrassment

 Dear fireice :

intentional harassment is

Sec 13A(1)(A) Cap 184 = its more of a miscellaneous offence. and its only by words or behaviour...

but if its by any visible representation will be Sec 13A(1)(B) Cap 184..

thats y its found in the Miscellaneous offences (public order and nuisance) act, Chapter 184...

Sec 354 Cap 224 = Assault or criminal force to any person with intend to Outrage Modesty....

Sec 354A(1) Cap 224 = Outrage Modesty of any person in certain circumstances...

Sec 509 Cap 224 = Insulting Modesty of a women...

* note the difference

Originally posted by MohamedF:

The answer is.... No...
Outraging of modesty (1) doesn't restrict to only women... (2) is defined as a physical outrage of modesty i.e. there must be physical contact for there to be outrage of modesty... even yourrrrrrr long fingernail touch the other person's hair and if the person feels his/her modesty was outrage still counts...

What you're looking for is Chapter 223 section 502 of the penal code, Word or gesture intended to insult the modesty of a woman.

Whoever, intending to insult the modesty of any woman, utters any word, makes any sound or gesture, or exhibits any object, intending that such word or sound shall be heard, or that such gesture or object shall be seen by such woman, or intrudes upon the privacy of such woman, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to one year, or with fine, or with both.

I find this act too general... This means if you go up to a girl and say Hi, she can claim that you insulted her modesty... luckly this is not a seizable offence...

 

So in conclusion, Outrage of modesty applies to both men and women and but have the presence of physical contact. Insult of modesty of women applies only to women and must by word, gestures or any other form of messages.

 Yoz bro....   cap 223?  payroll tax act?

dun make me roll off my chair leh....  =)

and sec 502 is = Sale of printed or engraved substance containing defamatory matter.....

*faint*

Originally posted by viciouskitty74:

I really typed too much didnt I?  I really shouldnt mentioned the rates.

 okok... i heard you....  kitty....

you have your own point lar...  hopw you are still enjoying yourself there and not being part of those that are leaving.. =)

anyway, nice day ahead....

..

Originally posted by trendz:

yes. I know it's an offence and yes, i know it warrants an arrest. But look and compare the magnitude and seriousness of the crime to let's say, murder or robbery + assault. On a scale of one to ten - gambling probably would be ranked 1 or 2 (it causes no harm to others), and murder with a 9,10, robbery + assault maybe an 8 or 9.

And as I said, that mofo PO could simply give a warning, but he arrested a whole bunch of elderly, sent 'em to the police station, made them stay in that f*ckin' cold and empty lockup for 6, 7 f*ckin' hours (evening/night), giving them only some cheapo expired bread and packet drink, so what the f*ck do you think this is?

Of course, I won't be so mean or malicious as to curse his own mom/grandma to be dead or whatsoever. Plus, it is not making a sweeping statement, or having a brush to paint them all.

There were other few occasions when my grandma got robbed in the lift lobby, and my aunt got robbed at knife-point, and till now after 10 over years, they're still unable to catch the robbers. Of course, this case has been over for so long, obviously do you think the police would give a flying f*ck?

And yeah, probably these cases are too minor to be put up in the media, only then would the police seriously look into it i guess.

You would think I have anti-police sentiments, but I've lost faith in them. Fancy commiting a grave error in letting a f*ckin' Muslim SOB terrorist Mas Selamat Kastari escape and now he's on the run, nowhere to be found.  

Zou si mi lj? Don't gimme the crap that the police are so f*ckin' great! Most of them would be sitting in the coffeeshop sipping their economical coffee, slacking their time away. Then when they're not on patrol (or rather show off their pathetic rank), they would be back at the station doing wretched menial paperwork like a no-lifer with a pitiable salary. WOW!

(: 

 dear trendz,

i have to say that i feel for you. My own  family members were arrested before and i understand how you feels....  you do have your point there....   but wait....  gambling is not serious? or did i get your words wrong, please pardon me if i did...

"greed is the root of the cause" - gambling can results in alot of things that a gambler cant imagine unless they realise that its wrong and choose to stop..... saw the ad on TV where this "father" told his daughter that "its going to be the last time?" he wants her to break her piggy bank and let him have a "comeback" so he will stop it once and for all...  who suffers? end of the day, the family members will suffer...

of cos i have to admit, old folks gamble to past time...  but does they need to involve with money? its a bad example to youths and will lead them thinking that gambling is nothing wrong... I also noticed that there is a raising trend of singaporean playing mahjong.... issit becos we are being expose to more gambling environment ( i.e. movies, games, old folks playing at void deck ) or we simply doesnt know that gambling is bad for one?

we are citizens of singapore and we have to obey our own country law... if no one enforce it, then there will be no law and order.... "look around us" as what stated by one of the forumites, we are indeed better then other country around us...  but of cos, there is still room for improvement.... remember, "low crime doesnt mean no crime"... hey i like this banner of all i have seen by the SPF....

Perhaps police can do their part better in your "grandma being robbed" case.... I have to agree...  only recently I saw those signs stating of the crime happen at the location and appeal for witnesses...  how i wish such ideas have came up long ago... at least its kinda "enable public awareness" and also for those who always "claimed" that they wanted to help but does not know the right number to call to.... I do hope there will be witnesses to stand up for your grandma case or maybe police can find important leads to the case so your grandma or you can get the reply after 10 years~  =)

i remember my kampong days, where everyone is so close and friendly...  we would dare to leave our door open and not worrying of anything being stolen.... what happen now? our neighbours unit are either not in (busy working and substaining s'pore standard of living) or choose to enjoy in their own cosy home (where all windows and doors are closed)..... unless the same "generation" happens to be staying at the same level (kids studying pri, sec etc or all young parents or all old folks etc etc) or else its like everyone is living in their own world....  where is all the friendliness we use to have, i really miss it.... even WiFi also have to steal.... where have all our "willingly to share" and "looking for each other's back" attitude gone to?

well.... i understand you have lost faith in them just like some of our citizens....  but wait... MSK? did my english fail me or i get the wrong facts?  MSK is an error committed by ISD and to my own knowledge, police is assisting in investigation as stated in news.... did MSK escape from a police establishment? can anyone correct me on this?  well....  i have seen alot nowadays....  MHA staffs are being deployed everywhere.... i see SCDF officers at customs!!!!  oh my god...   i believe when MSK escape, police did quite a good and fast job to narrow down and search for him... thou there is still no news of him.... you should have come to my work place man....   for the first few days, i got so fed up sending my niece to school and to be stuck in a slow moving traffic due to the intensive search.... well....  maybe there might be dark clouds casting over MHA now.... i do hope they can think and work fast to win back public confident.... i admit my confident did rocked abit...   but after some observation, i believe i still have faith in them to provide security to our country....

lastly, i do hope they can sit down at coffeeshop for coffee you know... so i can ask them questions rather then always trying hard to catch them while they are in their police vehicle patrolling.... i do think their pay is pathetic as i ask my friend in there and got a surprise of what kind of pay they are getting compare to me..... perhaps something should be done....  as what have claimed by another forumite that the turnover rate there is high....  someone have to do their paper work!!!!  and let them patrol our streets more efficiently.....

wow....  i didnt know so many NATO here...   lol...

yak yak yak yak.... is this all you people know what to do?

shall not start a war here.... those who are not happy, please complain to the relevant authority...   well... you can post it here to show the whole world how right you are, but by doing nothing is still zero......

In my own humble opinion, the home team agencies are doing their job fine.....  of cos they can be better...  there are always room for improvement for everyone, if everyone is right then who is wrong?

recently, there are so many incidents happen to home teams agencies that have actually shaken the confident of public on them... kudos to them as they choose to admit that its their fault, DPM Wong apologise on national TV... So now they have to work double hard to win back the confidence of the public..... thou its never easy....

Dont whine behind the monitor and start crying foul, let your actions do all the talking....  we need more vocal Singaporeans and those who can voice out bravely rather then only trying to type and type and type.... and of the day, is the revelant authorities going to see all your complains here? well....  its good to see you guys telling and sharing your encounters and experiances here, i believe this is the reason why this forum is here.... for those whom think they are being treated unfairly or unjust, please voice out to the proper channel that was given by helpful forumites....

hope you all enjoy your day~ cheers....  my 2 cheap cents worth of thoughts...

Originally posted by mhcampboy:

Actually this is targeted to all of MHA uniformed groups....

Example

Do police officers salute to senior immigration officers or senior prison officers? Or CD Officers for that matter....

Ok..maybe must salute.. however.. their rank is equal to their counterparts in other groups?

I mean, personnel from different group... are they all given same kind of... "rank power treatment"....something like tat.. lol

If you were to ask me, paying compliments is actually a must... but nowadays who bothers? but you may be subjected to disciplinary actions if you dont....

Issit so difficult just to raise up you hand to salute them? iTs a requirement to pay compliments to officers bearing SSI(1) and equivalent ranks and above....

Originally posted by MohamedF:

What's the power? What can and can't you do?

there is alot of powers....

and alot of can do and cant do...

if you are interested, can join them or be alittle bit hardworking to read up..
it can be found at statutes.agc.gov.sg...

Originally posted by MohamedF:

if checked in, will he still be arrested?

If another offence committed, yes...

Originally posted by CCOD:

wait a minute...wat if the papers that dropped were his logsheet..and his misc reports..and his summons...oh man...what if the whole logsheet was muddy and...he couldn't submit it after work and have to rewrite.. oh man..u just made a PO super angry...

well well..if u banged into an orang lama PO, i think he will give u more than a stare...and he wun care abt complains..

a dropped bunch of papers..he mustbe a recorder or something..oh man...a bunch of dirty papers..oh no...

my dear friend..... that is a job hazard....

every PO should knows if their choose to bring those important documents out, they should be mentally prepared of the risk they are taking...

they have to be angry, but who can they blame on? no one force them to bring it out..

if you are issuing a summon, then you should be standing in front of the vehicle and : -

1) try to minimise the inconvenience to the public(if neccessary)

2) face the in coming traffic, so you can be aware of any danger

3) finish your summon and get out of the place fast(if traffic is heavy)

dont try to stay long.... cos its hazardous...

summons you can issue everyday, but life only one...

Originally posted by Tiggerific:

haha. knn. check point officer. no lah. it is crime prevention officer. usually a senior officer, if i'm not wrong. maybe work with commuity liaison team or national crime prevention council, that type of job.

CPO doesnt need to be a SO thou..

Originally posted by anfieldheroez:

wth? give and take respect man, ok la fine ar, vk no doubt u a PO

young man... get a life will you? =)

have you come across the phrase "prevention is better then cure" ?

why only have the mind set of, "if you ever bang into people then you will say sorry?"

why dont you look ahead when you walk and either say : "excuse me" when you are being blocked or wait till the passage is clear then you walk thru?

You mean if i bang you and i say sorry, you will forgive me?

OF COS, i am of no one to tell you what you should do in life... you are on your own man~

Originally posted by MohamedF:

With all these stupid stompers out there, is it possible that some police are scared to go on patrol or make arrest?

Scared make 1 small wrong move will be amplified 10,000x by stompers...

If you have done nothing wrong why scare of stompers? =)

officers should bear in mind, once in uniform there are SOPs to follows....

of cos PO are also humans.... If you wanna do anything, then CHANGE!!!! dont wear uniform? =)

cheers

Originally posted by Simon Dean:

Very famous policeman that catches S.S members, dont f.ck with him.

ohh my god.... u are the famous BISHAN AIRPORT group.... that i always wonder why you call yourself this kind of bo liao name....

well... there is more from tommy... i go copy and paste this thread and pass it to him tomorrow...

Originally posted by M©+square:

Very long then can get to see your 2cents leh.

can give more or not?

of cos lar.... who call you that time forget me.... lol...

tlz then dont post liao.... =P

so hows life as a bouncer? still there? i shld be outdated liao ba...

Originally posted by ¡ÚTearsofTheMoon¡Ú:

My friends were slacking around under a HDB flag, this is what that took place

There were some who were underage smokers, and were smoking illegal cig(Catanime something like that). But soon after the police came, they start shouting at us who smoke and they search one with the illegal cig, after some time, they started to handcruff him with his hand on the back, and said things like you want to act punk, i can take out my shirt and challage you one on one, and also things like piercing nose= SS(secret society)? and soon after that the one that was handcruff was being bring back to station,

My question is, are they allowed to handcuff and bring him to the car with so many ppl watching and also to give such comment

just to let you know.... if you are not happy just write in to complain.... furthermore you guys are hving something illegal in possession... i believe the SPF dont owe you a living by explaining to you why they should handcuff, get a life pls...

dont start to act innocent when you are with someone that is being caught by the police and start to cry foul..... my 2 cents...

Happy birthday to u.....

rare to see me here right....