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Originally posted by Realistic-Nonsense:
hmmmm, because i heard from a priest say its the parents authoriy, right, and responsibility to ensure that they grow up to be a christian.
if they reach adulthood, then it is out of ur control and limitations to make them choose something else.
u know how it is with kids, they follow their parents and are influence by them.
its weird cause thats the church wishes, and i just feel that it needs to be clarified in that area.
The Church should not be seen as made up of individuals, but as made up of families. Definitely the family places an important development in the faith. We cannot simply depend on the Church for the moral and spiritual education of our children. The parents must play a part too.
The Catechism states:
2225 Through the grace of the sacrament of marriage, parents receive the responsibility and privilege of evangelizing their children. Parents should initiate their children at an early age into the mysteries of the faith of which they are the "first heralds" for their children. They should associate them from their tenderest years with the life of the Church.34 A wholesome family life can foster interior dispositions that are a genuine preparation for a living faith and remain a support for it throughout one's life.
If you don't bring up the children in the faith, and they go astray, then it is your fault. But if you have done all you can but they still abandon the faith when they grow up, I don't think God will blame you for it.
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Originally posted by novelltie:
women, you can't live with them neither can you live without them...
by the way, in bible stories, women were the catalyst for the fall of men. Adam and Eve, Samson, Solomon, David and many many more...Adam and Eve - if not under the persuasion of Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, Adam would not have broke God's rule and we won't have an adam apple between our throats.
Samson - the seduction of a woman led to Samson disclosing the secret of his incredible strength and thus the road to his demise.
David - his lust for his subordinate's wife led him to murder and took his subordinate's woman by force thus angering God.
Solomon - under persusasion and influence, he started to worship other gods of his foreign wives thus the beginning of betrayal...
WOMEN! *sigh*
And yet the Son of God was born of a Woman.
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Prayer before a Crucifix
Look down upon me, good and gentle Jesus, while before Thy face I humbly kneel, and with burning soul I pray and beseech Thee to fix deep in my heart lively sentiments of faith, hope and charity, true contrition for my sins, and a firm purpose of amendment; while I contemplate with great love and tender pity Thy five wounds, pondering over them within me, having in mind the words which David Thy prophet said of Thee, my Jesus: "They have pierced my hands and my feet; they have numbered all my bones."
Our Father, Hail Mary, Glory Be for the Holy Father's intentions
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
well,i aint takin offense,jus curious why christians are doing something God forbade them to do..well, shunning the object of death to the close fren doesnt mean im takin the fren as a fool,nor can i comprehend how u arrive in this conclusion..
the big issue is more of jesus' death right?sory if i sound cold or crude,but so long as jesus dies,does it matter if he dies on a cross of due to a 16 wheeler truck?so supposed back then,the way of execution is by stabbing the victim with a knife.will mordern christians wear a knife while catholics wear a knife with jesus on it?doesnt make sense right?
now we all know pagan stuffs does not originates from God,this is undisputable truth.also,God detest such things.now, jesus dies on a pagan cross.will tat in turn bring value to the cross or will God detest it more?eg, u hate drugs.yet ur own beloved son dies due to drugs.now, will u come to value drugs more now because ur son died due to it or will u detest it more?
ur last paragraph says i have potential to b an apostle for paganism n u shall pray for me.the way i read it means u r praying that i become an apostle of pagans fast instead of praying for me to accept God..im simpler terms, u r praying for me to be away from God rather den for accepting God??
n no thanks, i have no intention to b an apostle for the catholic church... =)
To date you have not proven that we cannot have religious images or statues. Use the Scripture that you love so much. We want to see.
Do you hate the Cross? Jesus did not hate His Cross, so why are you hating it? Yes, the fact that Jesus did die matters. But it does matter why Jesus had to die on a Cross and not get thrown off the cliffs by madmen. Why must God die die choose to let Jesus die on a cross? All these has happened in real-time, not merely in books. God uses history and current events in the world to work. To make an example out of Him, the most excruciating and shameful form of execution existing at that time, in that locality, was used. Hanging would not suffice. Beheading would not suffice. Poison would not suffice. If Jesus is here making the ultimate sacrifice, surely there must also be the ultimate way of execution. This is the ultimate example, in that context. That makes wearing a 16 foot truck or a knife around my neck irrelevant.
I already said, Jesus is able to turn bad things into good things. The Cross is no longer a symbol of paganism, but a symbol of faith. It is no longer a symbol of suffering, but a symbol of hope. Jesus is even able to make suffering, a good thing. The Crucifxion is supposed to be a unique event which has changed the history of Man. His destiny is supposed to be changed. Even the way we see things must be changed.
I said, Apostle TO the Pagans, not Apostle OF the Pagans. I actually meant to praise you for fighting paganism, but since I was taken the wrong way.. Oh well.
Well neither did St Paul choose to become a Apostle. But I believe you have potential to be God's instrument.
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