Originally posted by libragirl70:

wow, are you cheated ? why you seems hating him so much ?

 

Do u trust someone with more than 15 years track record of opening and closing MLM companies every few years, each time causing thousands of people to lose thousands of dollars each? And with projects which none materialised?

Originally posted by Realazy Spaz:

I would like to name my company, but there is a policy that i cant post anything about my company on the net, the only hint i can give about my company is that it deals mainly with a facial bar. Overall the company is good but inside my company there is a person that speaks very badly, hope she doesnt cause a bad reputation to the company.

Why not?

Because it's very hard to explain?

Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:

 

Come on redstone, traditionally, more $ = success... It's just the modern era that shows that success = achieving your passion... Go and ask your grandparents what success is...

Let's say one's passion is to be the best gigolo in the world... Would ppl still say that you are successful when you are sodomized by thousands of men?

My grandparents came from a simple family, and had lead a simple life all their lives. Their own parents immigrated here. Those were tough times, British era, WWII, independence, riots, post independence turmoil etc, etc Success to them is for their children to grow up and the whole family to be happy.

If indeed its someone's dream to be a gigolo, I won't force him out of it.

WSR, are you 23 or 17 or 18?

Do you think the rate of "success" is very low? Given the saturated market of mlm companies selling the same product types (example, health products). And the number of mlm agents? Everyone is a competitor, selling the same products. Lets say a company has 1000 agents, one person would have to compete with 999 other agents selling the same product. Encouraging agents to bring people in just increases the competition. The rate of incoming agents are high, slightly lower are the rate of outgoing agents.

Originally posted by elementalangel:

actually nuttin much le.. that WSR left this forum after all her lies have been exposed... together wif her friendster http://profiles.friendster.com/18992013

Good job!

People who think $ = success deserves a little knock on their head.

What u want in life is the most important, passion, interest, love. If you say sales is your interest, go on and pursue it. Each has our own dreams and aspirations. You only live once, and 70 years is very short.

Originally posted by Bathtu6:

Singaporeans ar.. singaporeans... this forum shows exactly why so why singaporeans never step out of the rat race...

To all the people here who always says that mlm is scam.. you guys are cool people.. hard working people.. Jiao Ta Shi DI people.. Keep up the hard work.. Working from Janurary to mid june just to cover the taxes.. 9 months a year.. leaving 3 little month for your own little enjoyment..

For all who discriminate MLM..
"Understand the word Leveraging"


Today 25 people doing their own business working 24 hours a day just to get thier own things done..

Today 1 smart person makes 24 people each one contribution 1 hour to get his 24 hours job done in 1 hour..

The smart one gains more not because he is a son of a bitch.. but because he is smart and he has brain..

Today it depends on which kind of people you want to be.. it's your life.. your call..
you can be 1 of the 24 people who work for their life complaining.. or you can choose to step out of the rat race and start believing in leveraging

Fine, can u show me the statistics of the number of people reaching a constant sustainable 2k income versus the number of people at the lowest rung of the ladder of leveraging?

What is emmax doing now? Do you know what companies it has set up in HK?

Funny it can have enough money to organise mass brainwashing seminars, start so many businesses but no money to return to people...

Serves him right... its scary how people still believe in someone with a track record of failed projects owing investors hundreds of millions.

I always hear SE ppl say "who never fail before". This is not a case of if ppl fail before, its a case of someone deliberately scamming people. Proven track record of excuses. Force ppl to go funeral? Most pro...really cult. May someone else die too.

Best thing? Say emmax "is doing very well", somemore have money to start entertainment business, conventions, etc... but no money to return people?

Observer, I had started numerous threads at Hardwarezone forums. Maybe you could post there too.

its always fun to see how many excuses they can come up with

Emmax is doing things SE style, establishing many small companies in the various fields in HK.

Now they're calling for auditions for people who want to "break into HK entertainment". Don't make me laugh.

Originally posted by Calvary:

- Company is already a platform earning money by itself even without Network Marketers.

 

- Co-Founders are doing corporate buisness and is looking for Network Marketers to hasten their earnings.

 

- Very Good Company Plans of getting back double of whatever you have put in guaranteed, thats excluding the other 2 types of income known as the referal (this is quite standard) and the Synergy Bonus which also means the Balacing of your binary tree and "Buisness Volume"

 

- Company earns revenue through DIamond Trading which is already a profitable buisness by itself.

 

- It started out not too long on the 28th August in Singapore only and we are Raising Leaders now

 

- Just started not too long ago and low start up capital which also means "BIG MARKET"

 

- What are you waiting for? Opportunity doesn't comes often in your life time.

 

- I-Points which can be used to exchange for diamond pendant, earrings, bracelets and very beautiful Rings.

 

- Call me or SMS me for an appointment now or Queries at 90034520

 

- Confirm company is as good as claimed in Topic and Content or else Coffee is on me.

Why so Many unneccessary Caps in Your typing?

I see... this I'm not too sure.. but SE is doing it too, from what I gather.

Whats trustleaf?

First paper clips. Now I've received word it's till going on. This "SG" thing by Sunshine Empire / Emmax.


Had anyone of u people been approached by teens on the streets selling pens? Or door to door? They are always in groups and will tell u all sorts of excuses, example, selling as part of a game or for charity.

Call the police, and approach them and ask them to produce their permit.

Originally posted by Laser spy:

My apology for not looking from both sides of things since I have ever known.

1. From what I know, the Em-TaiChung and Em-Taipei wireless city project was only bidded by EmCom, but the bid was not won by EmCom.

2. The Empire Properties Venture's claimed projects, all does not exist.

If you guys, especially those who were part of SE last time, would really like to know what had happened, feel free to call me @ 93495630 and we can arrange a meet-up. So that me and my ex-upline can tell you what you can do and what has happened. The truth and the myths.

Phang and his so called promises for the past 15 years or so all never came true.

Since they're only BIDDING for it, they should not say as if they're confirmed doing the project.

Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:

You claimed that Tamils have bigger c0cks coz u haven't seen other races c0cks... So trying to boost your ego this way is only losing yourself in a world of denial...

You can 'hammer' a white ass as hard as you want(in your lala land)... I don't give a damn about whites... Aren't you a racist...

And yes, northern indian are somewhat of a caucasian decent, thus having bigger c0cks that that of Southern Indians...

Kudos! you have finally admitted that you have a small c0ck!=) Yes, I have seen c0cks of tamils, chinese, malay, caucasion etc... before and they are adults not youngsters... Believe me, tamils have the smallest c0ck...

You may try and boost your ego by saying that you have a big c0ck. But at the end of the day, people know that your kuku is actually next to nothing...

By the way, I know the difference between a respectable indian and a pariah... And you are definitely of a pariah decent... Shame on you...

 

Racism... tsk tsk...

Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:

hahahahahaha... Redstone, what happened to you?

You won't expose my identity? I dare you to expose it unless you have no balls to do so... You have my permission to do so...

Let's see what you have... I can bet you have nothing... No proof no talk... Talk only but have nothing...

lengthy post: people change especially when they are in a different state...

Speak for yourself. Your posts are more lengthly than mine. Don't get personal with me. Don't forget I know someone willing to do a case pro bono. You didn't insult me, so I wont touch you.

In case you don't know what pro bono means, it means doing it to help someone, not charging fees, aka free.

You're leaving traces of your identity all around. I shall not argue with someone like you. It brings no gain to me. Waste of time, especially with someone the likes of you. Why don't u just look into the mirror to admire at yourself before commenting on people. I shall take my leave. Anything anyone wishes to bring attention to me, pm me.

Originally posted by MohamedF:

I know about MLM using selling their products thru referrals... but what don't you like about that...? Did they trick you or anything...? or are they being pushy...?

Yes and yes

Originally posted by elementalangel:

1. EazyMax - Online Shopping Platform
2. Empire Property Venture - Real Estate and Property Investments
3. EmCall - VOIP Call Back
4. EmDynamic - Training
5. Empir Entertainment Dynasty - Media and Entertainment
6. Empire Club - Macau Entertainment VIP Club
7. Niu Lifestyle - Health, Beauty and Wellness

sorry about the 5 i said due to insufficient information after research i four the above 7 which is more or less the same.

ok the ones which could reap profits are,

1,2,3,5,7

the rest are more towards welfare.

out of these 5 above,

example 2 and 3 were from sunshine-empire as well... and many proofs have been pointed against them.

examples 1 and 7 are bussinesses that they have done for quite a long time but make little to none profit from.

example 5 wont make much money to the extent to the investors could get their investments sustained

Profits? Oh please.. they make me laugh.

Emcom. First they say want to build wireless network in singapore, so enthusiastically recruiting ppl based on this, then later? Vanish... Later say want to build wireless project in Taichung. Then? Vanish too.

EPV... Malacca resort project. Design changed at least 3 times, after it's been sold. Empire state tower in KL, abductboy and others had already proven that the nothing can be built on the site.

Emcall... the callback thing is very unreliable and inconvinient. I would rather call directly on a regular telecom.

And I wonder what happened to Emall/Emwealth which indirectly claim sales of more than few hundred millions.

I have no comment for the others because I havent read/heard of them before.

The latest reincarnation of Sunshine Empire

mlm income is very very unstable

eunos (that place i was talking abt) is venture era. last time they were at robinson point behind lau pa sat.

sounds like venture era or enyouth?

ve office is at changi, mdis there. enyouth office is near boat quay

Which company?

When u feel something isn't right and u've been tricked, just leave. No need to give explanation.

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